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post #2491 of 2535 Old 01-13-2016, 09:22 PM
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Hello there! I've just taken advantage of the holiday sale and bought an amp! It's going to be a tight fit in my tv stand. How much clearance should there be above the amp? Thanks!
I would say at least 4" assuming that it's not in an enclosed cabinet with other large sources of heat. If so, make sure you have active ventilation as well. Or keep the doors open when things are on.
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Hello there! I've just taken advantage of the holiday sale and bought an amp! It's going to be a tight fit in my tv stand. How much clearance should there be above the amp? Thanks!
I'd leave 2-3" minimum if the space is open on either end, 4" or more if only open on one end like in a cabinet with a back to it.
I only have 1-1.5" above mine, open on both ends, but my XPA's only drive my Rears and Heights and I never get close to reference, so they're not really working that hard.
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I'd leave 2-3" minimum if the space is open on either end, 4" or more if only open on one end like in a cabinet with a back to it.
I only have 1-1.5" above mine, open on both ends, but my XPA's only drive my Rears and Heights and I never get close to reference, so they're not really working that hard.
So I just joined the Emotiva club by buying a new XPA-5 during the Holiday sale. I just ordered a Marantz SR6010 to go with it for preparation for my new 4K TV that I haven't purchased yet.

I will be running a 5.1 system for the foreseeable future. The amp and AVR are running Paradigm Studio 60 mains, Studio 20 rears, Paradigm Center channel that I never remember the model number of.

I was just curious what pre-amp or AVR the rest of you are using with your XPA's?
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Me, a Yamaha RX-A3040, but strictly as a Pre-Amp.
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Noob question: Is there a way to turn amp from stand-by to on remotely, in other words not having to push the button by hand?
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Noob question: Is there a way to turn amp from stand-by to on remotely, in other words not having to push the button by hand?
If you can't take advantage of the 12V trigger it has, maybe something like this?
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Noob question: Is there a way to turn amp from stand-by to on remotely, in other words not having to push the button by hand?
Hi, and welcome.

What receiver/processor are you using? I'm betting it has a "trigger out". If so, it's easy - hook up a mono headphone cable between your XPA-5 and the processor/receiver and you should be all set.
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One more question. I have a power supply that cuts off power when I turn off my receiver-its a Monster Power MDP800 Green Powercenter. Would it be ok to plug my amp into it - it would power off completely, not standby, when receiver is off?
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Those of you that switched to balanced connections running XLR cables from your standard unbalanced connection, was there an appreciable difference in sound quality?

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Those of you that switched to balanced connections running XLR cables from your standard unbalanced connection, was there an appreciable difference in sound quality?
No difference at all for me.
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Hi All,

I am thinking about purchasing XpA-5 . I have polk Atia9 speakers on front which i would like to drive with this amp as they are very power hungry . Currently i am running them on Pioneer sc-1228.

Does anybody here have some experience on how the polk ATiA9 will run with xpa-5

Thanks in advance.
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Hi All,

I am thinking about purchasing XpA-5 . I have polk Atia9 speakers on front which i would like to drive with this amp as they are very power hungry . Currently i am running them on Pioneer sc-1228.

Does anybody here have some experience on how the polk ATiA9 will run with xpa-5

Thanks in advance.
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No difference at all for me.
Thanks, I didn't think there would be.

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I am thinking about purchasing XpA-5 . I have polk Atia9 speakers on front which i would like to drive with this amp as they are very power hungry . Currently i am running them on Pioneer sc-1228.

Does anybody here have some experience on how the polk ATiA9 will run with xpa-5

Thanks in advance.
I'll cut/paste what i posted in the speaker forum on a similar question:

I recently purchased Rti A9's on a sale.
So i ended up with new front L&R speakers.
I then moved my energy 5.1's back a slot to surrounds, and moved my paradigm surrounds to backs.
All of these were powered by a Pioneer Elite VSX-33 with 110 watts a channel. i did have a powered sub though.

Sounded great, couldn't hear clipping in 5 channels or in my new 7 channels as loud as I could listen to. The amp was probably only putting out 40-50w a channel when I'm powering 7 channels, but it was still sounding great in a large room. I could not hear distortion or 'lack of power"

Sounded great, but i still had a wad of cash to burn. So i bought a emotive xpa-5 amp at 200 watts/channel, a new denon x6200w receiver, and 4 new ceiling speakers for atmos.

I now have 11 channels of speakers, and rti A9 'power hungry' speakers combined, but I'm not worried because I have a 5 channel external amp along with the receiver to power it. with 11 channels with only a receiver id be potentially worried because maybe then the power won't be enough to power all 11 channels without running out of headroom. Depends on volume then i guess.

Short story, i have not "heard" the benefit of an amp yet, because I have yet to hear clipping which is probably the only time you actually need to add an external amp. Maybe its my poor non professional ears, maybe its that I added an external when i went from 7 to 11 channels. Point is if you're not yet hearing clipping, if your current receiver is powering your speakers at a volume you listen to without clipping, an amp will not make them sound better or suddenly bring out new sounds. "power hungry " i guess means adding more power doesn't make them blow up, but adding more power doesn't make them sound different.

That said I'm looking for a new xpa-2 amp just so i never have too worry about head room in a speaker amp combination and it looks impressive !!!.
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I'll cut/paste what i posted in the speaker forum on a similar question:

I recently purchased Rti A9's on a sale.
So i ended up with new front L&R speakers.
I then moved my energy 5.1's back a slot to surrounds, and moved my paradigm surrounds to backs.
All of these were powered by a Pioneer Elite VSX-33 with 110 watts a channel. i did have a powered sub though.

Sounded great, couldn't hear clipping in 5 channels or in my new 7 channels as loud as I could listen to. The amp was probably only putting out 40-50w a channel when I'm powering 7 channels, but it was still sounding great in a large room. I could not hear distortion or 'lack of power"

Sounded great, but i still had a wad of cash to burn. So i bought a emotive xpa-5 amp at 200 watts/channel, a new denon x6200w receiver, and 4 new ceiling speakers for atmos.

I now have 11 channels of speakers, and rti A9 'power hungry' speakers combined, but I'm not worried because I have a 5 channel external amp along with the receiver to power it. with 11 channels with only a receiver id be potentially worried because maybe then the power won't be enough to power all 11 channels without running out of headroom. Depends on volume then i guess.

Short story, i have not "heard" the benefit of an amp yet, because I have yet to hear clipping which is probably the only time you actually need to add an external amp. Maybe its my poor non professional ears, maybe its that I added an external when i went from 7 to 11 channels. Point is if you're not yet hearing clipping, if your current receiver is powering your speakers at a volume you listen to without clipping, an amp will not make them sound better or suddenly bring out new sounds. "power hungry " i guess means adding more power doesn't make them blow up, but adding more power doesn't make them sound different.

That said I'm looking for a new xpa-2 amp just so i never have too worry about head room in a speaker amp combination and it looks impressive !!!.
With the Denon X6200W there are only 9 built in amps. So to go from 9 channels to 11 channels, an external amp is needed. This will give the 7.1.4 Atmos speaker configuration layout.

You can use the XPA-5 to power the fronts, center and surrounds that will make up the bulk of a movie soundtrack. The remaining speakers (back surrounds and ceiling) can be powered by the internal amps of the X6200W.

The idea is to hit reference level of 105dB peak at the Main Listening Position (MLP). The Polk Rti A9 have decent efficiency of 90dB/W/m so it'll depend on how far way the listening position is from the speakers. Might want to check out the power requirements using this web app: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

Curious to know if 200W per channel of the XPA-5 can get you 105dB peak at the MLP in just stereo mode.

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Those of you that switched to balanced connections running XLR cables from your standard unbalanced connection, was there an appreciable difference in sound quality?

I've never noticed any difference in sound quality . That being said, all of my amps are connected to my pre amp processor with balanced XLR's. Before I made that switch years ago, I would have intermittent low level hums , buzzes or a hiss show up in my speakers. After the switch, those issues went away. That's the main advantage of balanced XLR connections...far less chance of picking up noise along the way from preamp to power amp.

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I've never noticed any difference in sound quality . That being said, all of my amps are connected to my pre amp processor with balanced XLR's. Before I made that switch years ago, I would have intermittent low level hums , buzzes or a hiss show up in my speakers. After the switch, those issues went away. That's the main advantage of balanced XLR connections...far less chance of picking up noise along the way from preamp to power amp.
It made a huge difference for me and they are literally one to two shelves apart (XPA-2 & XPA-5 amps) from my preamp. When the amps arrived, I was so disappointed with the noise floor. The XLRs solved it 100%.
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Hi All,

I am thinking about purchasing XpA-5 . I have polk Atia9 speakers on front which i would like to drive with this amp as they are very power hungry . Currently i am running them on Pioneer sc-1228.

Does anybody here have some experience on how the polk ATiA9 will run with xpa-5

Thanks in advance.

I ran them on an XPA3 and they sound better then from an AVR, but these really like the power I now have over 400 watts going to them and then sound phenomenal.

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Been wanting to try an Emotiva product for a long time. I ordered my XPA-5 Gen2 because I got an email saying they were on clearance and selling off the last of them before going to their new class D amp line. Got mine for $899 in the door. And now it says they are on RESERVE. Did not see the club membership to get the 15% discount on the site.

I will be comparing it to my Rotel RMB1095 both amps have 200w with all 5 channels driven. And almost the same weight. Should be here in a couple hours. Going to be doing critical listening with my Marin Logan Electromotion ELS's.
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Been wanting to try an Emotiva product for a long time. I ordered my XPA-5 Gen2 because I got an email saying they were on clearance and selling off the last of them before going to their new class D amp line. Got mine for $899 in the door. And now it says they are on RESERVE. Did not see the club membership to get the 15% discount on the site.

I will be comparing it to my Rotel RMB1095 both amps have 200w with all 5 channels driven. And almost the same weight. Should be here in a couple hours. Going to be doing critical listening with my Marin Logan Electromotion ELS's.
It can be hit and miss as to whether they let you use your e-club discount on clearance -vs- sale items.
I'm hoping to see new items up for sale soon, I'm in the last few to be able to sign up and my membership ends in June.

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Anyone running different amp brands? I'm thinking of buying an Onkyo 2 channel amp to pair with my XPA-5, but am uncertain of how that would go. I wanted to get the XPa-7, but they sold off too fast. I was going to just stick with receivers and my amp combo, but I think I'm going to go over the Marantz 7702mlk once the price comes down. Any thoughts on mix and matching amps?

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Anyone running different amp brands? I'm thinking of buying an Onkyo 2 channel amp to pair with my XPA-5, but am uncertain of how that would go. I wanted to get the XPa-7, but they sold off too fast. I was going to just stick with receivers and my amp combo, but I think I'm going to go over the Marantz 7702mlk once the price comes down. Any thoughts on mix and matching amps?
i tried using a upa1 for the center channel, with a marantz amp and it did not match up to good .
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Anyone running different amp brands? I'm thinking of buying an Onkyo 2 channel amp to pair with my XPA-5, but am uncertain of how that would go. I wanted to get the XPa-7, but they sold off too fast. I was going to just stick with receivers and my amp combo, but I think I'm going to go over the Marantz 7702mlk once the price comes down. Any thoughts on mix and matching amps?
Try this ebay seller, looks like he brought out the the last run of XPA-7's

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Thanks @leadliner and @kingwiggi . I didn't think mix and matching would be a good idea. I'm going to wait a bit longer, and maybe see if I can just get a used UPA-200 or something. I don't plan on running Atmos anytime soon, so just need two more channels.

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Call them direct and you may get a better price on the XPA-7 than through eBay. I just received mine yesterday and had great service.
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Thanks @leadliner and @kingwiggi . I didn't think mix and matching would be a good idea. I'm going to wait a bit longer, and maybe see if I can just get a used UPA-200 or something. I don't plan on running Atmos anytime soon, so just need two more channels.
The Monolith 7 from Monoprice sure looks interesting. Apparently the design is from ATI. imagic has a review unit on hand and hopefully will have write up for AVS soon.

Just in case you do decide to go down the Atmos route one day with the AV-7702MkII.

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Call them direct and you may get a better price on the XPA-7 than through eBay. I just received mine yesterday and had great service.
Thanks - might just do that.

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