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post #1 of 8 Old 03-15-2010, 11:40 AM - Thread Starter
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Searched the threads no definitive answer ...

- My needs are simple and will stay simple.

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AV - Fios and PS3
Audio - above and digital coax from auzentech (have a few sacd too)

5.1 w svs pci sub, kef iq7s, mb quart dipoles

MY PLAN:
Most powerful / quality receiver OR wussy receiver w amp
video straight to TV samsung dlp 61a650 via hdmi
audio straight to avr via toslink

REASON:
I'd rather spent $ on amp/sound than hdmi connectivity.
Harmony remote or my hand does the switching?

Am I missing any audio codecs going this route?

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Yes, you are missing the advanced audio codecs, such as TrueHD and DTS HD MA from the PS3, whether bitstreamed or decoded in the PS3 and sent as LPCM.

Optical will only carry 2ch lossless.

It's not a matter of switching, its a matter of processing the sound over HDMI.


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There are other issues starting to crop up as well... In the future I think it is going to be important to assure lip sync and others stuff work properly.
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I covered this in the stickied AVR FAQ. Since I wrote that, HDMI has become even more pervasive.

The one time you may want to avoid HDMI is with cable and sattelite boxes. One problem is that they often interrupt the audio stream, and people have to change inputs to get it back. There are other various handshaking issues that occur.

HDMI works like a charm, mostly, for game consoles and optical players (with some exceptions.)

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my setup may not be simple but my avr gives me the ability to distribute video to both my plasma and projector from all sources (hdmi 7 in, 2 out)
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...The one time you may want to avoid HDMI is with...sattelite boxes. One problem is that they often interrupt the audio stream, and people have to change inputs to get it back. There are other various handshaking issues that occur...

I've never noticed this and I'm pretty critical. Is this common? Am I just lucky? Directv HR21 HDMI to my NAD T-175 HDMI to my display. Audio and video never drop out.
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I covered this in the stickied AVR FAQ. Since I wrote that, HDMI has become even more pervasive.

The one time you may want to avoid HDMI is with cable and sattelite boxes. One problem is that they often interrupt the audio stream, and people have to change inputs to get it back. There are other various handshaking issues that occur.

HDMI works like a charm, mostly, for game consoles and optical players (with some exceptions.)

I completely agree with this statement.

And to Lhasa-lover, it isn't a hard rule but something to consider when planning your system. I've been using HDMI for the past couple of years with my PS3 with zero issues. I even had a HDMI enabled Sony DVD player for a while which gave me no grief.

Enter a SA 4250HD cable box last month and problems, problems, problems. If I went into the guide or switched channels I could lose sync and the picture would flicker in and out. I had to switch TV inputs to get the sync back. Zero issues with component so I just switched back. Allows me to run Dolby to the receiver via toslink and 2.0 to the TV so I have the option of watching without the theater system being on to save power when the kids are watching.

And am I losing anything with this setup? Picture and audio wise, none that I can see but I do have to mess with my TV inputs when switching from TV to PS3.

Anywho, to the original question, HDMI equipped units are so cheap these days that it would be crazy not to get one. That is unless you are looking to get into the really high-end market and an older or used model is acceptable. Still, you would be losing out on a lot of the new encodes unless you also spent money on a new player with analog outs, e.g Oppo BDP-83.
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