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Onkyo likes to include features before the other brands. Having a Networked AVR at the $899 MSRP price would be huge. Forget an iPod dock, Networking is SOOOO much better!

Forget a networked AVR, an HTPC is SOOO much better!
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Anyone have an idea on MSRP for the 708/808?

I was eying the Pio-vsx1120. The best buy rep pulled the vsx up in her system and it showed as arriving 6-9-10.

If they are the 1120 ($749 amazon preorder) and 808 are around the same price +/-$100 which would you go with/wait for? I will be using an XPA-5 amp.

Thanks

This could be an interesting comparison. Pioneer has been pretty tight-lipped as to the specs of the 1120 (ie not releasing manual). I am also curious how the lower end marvell chip will perform on the video end. I own a Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH and found it very comparable to the 807, but running a lot cooler and lacking some of the bells and whistles of the 807 (internet, learning remote, presence speakers). I also paid a lot less for the 21, but would say it and the 807 stack out similarly in respects of pure audio.
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It seems that the new 708 is slightly more powerful than the 608 and has networking features. If the cost is only slightly more than the 608, it's worth it.
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It seems that the new 708 is slightly more powerful than the 608 and has networking features. If the cost is only slightly more than the 608, it's worth it.

It will probably cost more than "slightly" more than the 608.

The better version of Audyssey(MultEQ vs 2EQ) will make it worth it. That and the fact that despite any THX mandates, Onkyo specs the 708 for 4 ohm operation, while they do not specifically list that feature for the 608.
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These amps are NOT very powerful. My 605 is 175w. true they have pre outs but still.

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175 watts at what? 1 channel into a 4 or 6 ohm load? I think you are mistaken, both the 708 and 808 will be more powerful than your 605.

He's getting that power quote from the specs - which indeed is 175w - on a single channel. From the manual:

7 ch 􀁵 175 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1 ch
driven

Dynamic Power 210 W + 210 W

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Thats like taking a Yugo and claiming top speed of 140mph. Never mind that this mark was achieved going down a very steep hill with an 80mph tailwind.

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He's getting that power quote from the specs - which indeed is 175w - on a single channel. From the manual:

7 ch 175 W at 6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1 ch
driven

Dynamic Power 210 W + 210 W

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Thats like taking a Yugo and claiming top speed of 140mph. Never mind that this mark was achieved going down a very steep hill with an 80mph tailwind.

So it's like I said.......into a 6ohm load with 1 channel driven at 1khz.

Totally meaningless spec. At any rate I doubt that figure is going to be less on either the 708 or 808.
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So it's like I said.......into a 6ohm load with 1 channel driven at 1khz.

Totally meaningless spec. At any rate I doubt that figure is going to be less on either the 708 or 808.

Kinda like the Behringer amplifier claims 2KW for $299..
If they ever came out with an AVR it would be rated @ 7KW for $499..
Or maybe a Bose wave radio rated @ 250W per channel..
Any brand that has to hype and outright lie about their output power specifications is just plain bunk..

Just my $0.00..
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Kinda like the Behringer amplifier claims 2KW for $299..
If they ever came out with an AVR it would be rated @ 7KW for $499..
Or maybe a Bose wave radio rated @ 250W per channel..
Any brand that has to hype and outright lie about their output power specifications is just plain bunk..

Just my $0.00..

LOL... Yeah, more companies should be honest with thier ratings! Like NAD is with theirs!
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LOL... Yeah, more companies should be honest with thier ratings! Like NAD is with theirs!

Or Harman Kardon?

I think HK lose sales due to the 'low' power figures. If only prospective buyers would learn something about power figures - and the fact that differences between 100wpc and 130wpc aren't all that meaningful.

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Just found this:

http://www.hifix.co.uk/hifi/audio/on...-av-receivers/

What did that page state? It has been pulled.

Eagerly awaiting these, I was just about to order a 608.
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What did that page state? It has been pulled.

Eagerly awaiting these, I was just about to order a 608.

Try here ----> http://www.hifix.co.uk/sku2.lasso?ON...06e999c3c798ec
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The Onkyo TX-NR708 and the TX-NR808 are now listed for pre-order in Amazon, shipping on June 15.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR708...5406919&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR808...5406948&sr=8-1

The TX-NR1008 will be released in July.
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Anyone know if the 808 or 1008 will have the HDMI pass-through? SO HDMI signals will pass through when the receiver is off?
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It would be great if the lower units had BTL (Bridged) Capability like the high end.
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Officially up on the onkyousa.com web site now.

Listed as coming soon for $899 for the tx-nr708 and $1099 for the tx-nr808
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Just looked at the specs for the 708. Holy crap: A SELECTOR BUTTON FOR EACH INPUT! You mean we don't have to turn a dial and iterate through every possible input while reading the name of each one on the display? An incredible step forward for usability (really a step back into the past when this was the norm).

Ah, but then we have the asinine front-mounted USB port. Yeah, because I want a wire dangling out the front of my receiver all the time. At the very least, put another USB port on the back where it belongs, so we can plug the iPod dock in and leave it sitting on or next to the receiver.

Only two optical inputs? That's kinda lame also. Thumbs up for FLAC support, though.

Question: You can assign the multichannel analog inputs to a source, right? I recently bought a Pioneer and found you couldn't do this... utterly retarded, and unlike any other receiver I've seen.
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Anyone know if the 808 or 1008 will have the HDMI pass-through? SO HDMI signals will pass through when the receiver is off?

The 608 has it, so why shouldn't the more expensive models?


I would have liked the NR708 to have the front flap from the NR808 (much like my current Sony), but meh.

The 708 has only one HDMI out according to Onkyo EU specs, the 808 has two:
http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/pro...n_8688483.html (NR708 Onkyo EU)
http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/pro...n_8688635.html (NR808 Onkyo EU)

NR808 has a little more power and multi-zone connectivity as well.
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With ... dual HDMI outs ...

TX-NR808 and below only have single HDMI out. TX-NR1008 has dual HDMI out. This according to Onkyo website.
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Here's the scoop on the new TX-NR708, 808, and 1008. I've been very tempted by the 608 but wanted to wait for the details on this new bunch. For me, the 708 is the ticket.

http://www.avguide.com/article/onkyo...s?src=Playback

Things I prefer on the 708 versus the 608:

- Rated for 4 ohms
- Phono input
- Ethernet
- Internet radio
- Streaming audio for PC and USB
- Audyssey MultiEQ
- 110W vs. 100W (not a big deal - just icing on the cake)

Obviously those features come at a price, but I'm willing to save up!
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Onkyo's site says the 708 doesn't do Component video up conversion and the 808 does, however will the component signal still get converted to HDMI but not upscaled?
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what are the main differences between the 708 and 808 ?
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Onkyo's site says the 708 doesn't do Component video up conversion and the 808 does, however will the component signal still get converted to HDMI but not upscaled?

What that probably means is the 708 won't output upscaled video to component -- it should upscale anything you are outputing on hdmi. The 608 will upscale component inputs for output on hdmi, but won't upscale component inputs for output on component. Perhaps the 808 upscales inputs for output on component.
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TX-NR808 and below only have single HDMI out. TX-NR1008 has dual HDMI out. This according to Onkyo website.

Ahaha, in Europe the 808 have dual HDMI out!!!

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what are the main differences between the 708 and 808 ?

Hmm, 808 have more:

Zone stuff,
(in europe) has an extra hdmi output (thought they don't output at the same time),
A front cover,
A little more W/ch,
Remote Control is a little better,
Plus a front Optical input,
Overlaid Graphical On-Screen Display (OSD) via All Video Outputs (708 only via HDMI)

Maybe something else nut don't recall...

Panasonic TX-P42V10E; Onkyo TX-NR808; PS3; Cambridge Audio Azur 640C; Raspberry Pi (Model B)
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4 / 9 CS / 9.1; BK Gemini; Just Racks JRA120‑SW‑BG
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TX-NR808 and below only have single HDMI out. TX-NR1008 has dual HDMI out. This according to Onkyo website.

Regional differences apply, it seems. From the link I posted just above your post (EU specs for NR808):
http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/pro...n_8688635.html
* 7 HDMI Inputs (1 Front/6 Rear) and 2 Outputs

NR708 has only one HDMI out.


I've had a look at the local prices; they are ~725 USD for the SR608 and ~1160 USD for the NR708. NR808 is ~1370 USD. I guess I'll have to cruise some demo rooms.
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Does anyone know the differences between the 708 and the new Integra 30.2? Looks very similar to the 708, but with slightly less power and no Audyssey MultEQ?
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Here's the scoop on the new TX-NR708, 808, and 1008. I've been very tempted by the 608 but wanted to wait for the details on this new bunch. For me, the 708 is the ticket.


Things I prefer on the 708 versus the 608:

Obviously those features come at a price, but I'm willing to save up!

Add to the list 7.1 analog audio input. I have a Pioneer DVD player that will play both SACD and DVD-Audio. I have a small collection of these disks, but I don't want to lose the ability to play them. I was looking at the 608 which has all the features I need but that. I thought of buying an Oppo, but it's $500 and I already have a PS3 slim. For $330 more than the 608, I can get the 708 and have the same functionality. The other goodies over the 608 are nice but not that important.

In many ways the 708 is still a bargain. 7 years ago I paid ~$1100 for a NAD T763 that is 5.1 with no HDMI or Audyssey. I think it's time for an upgrade.

One other feature makes the 708 appealing. It has pre-outs. I've been looking at the Emotiva processor, but the 708 has more features for about the same, as well as being a receiver that allows an upgrade path - receiver now, outboard amps later.
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Hi Guys how would you compare it with the new Pioneer VSX-920 pioneer is having a promo of £100 off and this new receiver has ethernet plug no need of a docking station for your I-pod.
I don't know a lot but want a receiver that would be capable of doing a lot of the things that will be coming in and the ethernet port is brilliant to connect devices in the house
cheers
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