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post #31 of 4553 Old 04-28-2010, 05:07 PM
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Haven't seen an option for this and doesn't have by default. I'll try poking around more today.

All I see is this in the manual:

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When the receiver's volume is adjusted or
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When the OSD language is switched on
the TV, the receiver's language setting also
switches accordingly.

This is a key feature for me as well. Probably go Denon/Onkyo if it won't work.
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Noticed yesterday that their site did not show coming soon and I had no updates in email or on their site so I called. They said that they had some in so I asked why I had not received any updates.he asked from my order number and said it's been shipped!!

It will be here Friday provided no floods or volcanos!
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Since this unit only has a 240 watt power supply. Are any users out there driving a full 7.1 surround system with mid size speakers. Are you having any issues getting enough power?

I'm looking at running the receiver with a set of Ascend speakers and I'm wondering if I should go for the VSX-1020 just for the added power. (Room size is 14x25)
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Since this unit only has a 240 watt power supply. Are any users out there driving a full 7.1 surround system with mid size speakers. Are you having any issues getting enough power?

Note the size of the speakers has nothing to do with how much power they need -- rather, you want to look at the ohms and the efficiency rating. But except for some special cases, maybe electrostatic speakers, for typical home speakers, rooms, and receivers, I just don't think you need to worry about power. To answer your question, I have two 7.1 systems with speakers of varying sizes and very moderate priced Pioneer receivers -- no power problems. The 1020 is rated at 80W/channel, rated fairly conservatively (but only 2 channels driven). That's not a lot; for the price, you can find higher rated AVRs. I'm sure it won't be a problem for me.

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Since this unit only has a 240 watt power supply. Are any users out there driving a full 7.1 surround system with mid size speakers. Are you having any issues getting enough power?

I'm looking at running the receiver with a set of Ascend speakers and I'm wondering if I should go for the VSX-1020 just for the added power. (Room size is 14x25)

really curious about this too. the 2amp draw is a third of the similarly priced onkyo and a good 100 watts lower than last year's model that only measured 30 watts per channel with all channels driven. worry this might not have much power when pushed even moderately.
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what i'm curious about is if most people realize how little power they actually use....

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still doesn't EQ the subwoofer correct?

Sorry for the awful iPhone pic.

The AVR doesn't do any EQ adjustment for sub as far as I can see. However, it does seem to have an adjustment for standing waves. See here (the SW is selected here, can't tell in this terrible pic):

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The 1020 is rated at 80W/channel, rated fairly conservatively (but only 2 channels driven). That's not a lot; for the price, you can find higher rated AVRs. I'm sure it won't be a problem for me.

The 1020 is 110Wx7 right? http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10.../dp/B0039XQQX0
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The 1020 is 110Wx7 right? http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-10.../dp/B0039XQQX0

Pioneer gives two ratings: 110W/channel, 1kHz, 8ohm, 0.05%thd, 1 ch driven, and one more conservative rating (which I was referring to): "Continuous average power output of 80 watts per hcannel, min., at 8 ohms, from 20 Hz to 20 000 Hz with no more than 0.08 % total harmonic distortion." (from p. 127 of the user manual).

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One thing I'd love to change is the size of the cover art when playing music from my iPhone. Does ayone know if that playback screen has any configuration options?

Would have loved to be able to select artist/album by cover art (like in iTunes)
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How warm does this thing get???

I was going to get an Onkyo 807 but after seeing it in action realized it just would not work in my cabinet (it gets really hot!).

Thanks...
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I would also like to know how hot this gets. The amazon review for VSX-1019 (http://www.amazon.com/review/R2JTDNN...#R2JTDNN7OAUM6) says it gets too hot, and that may be an issue with my tv stand.
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^^^

ALL modern avr's produce a goodly amount of heat... there's lots of electronic doodads in there that are all converting electricity into it...

some may run a bit cooler than others, but none run "cool"....

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Well, there's hot and then there's 'Onko 607' hot', which can cause damage. e.g. in the Onkyo 608 thread, people are happy it has a much more efficient PSU and runs a lot cooler. None of the equipment I have ever gets too hot to touch, IMO that's not a good sign.
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I've watched Blu-rays, DirecTV, and plenty of music through this AVR already. Actually think the unit stays cooler than my old 1909. Chassis barely gets warm to the touch.
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I've watched Blu-rays, DirecTV, and plenty of music through this AVR already. Actually think the unit stays cooler than my old 1909. Chassis barely gets warm to the touch.

and how does it sound.....
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Cancelled my PowersellerNYC order and picked up the 1020 at Best Buy today. Plan to hook it up a little later tonight.
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I've watched Blu-rays, DirecTV, and plenty of music through this AVR already. Actually think the unit stays cooler than my old 1909. Chassis barely gets warm to the touch.

how about its power?

my only worry about this receiver (as I am sure you've read on the parallel 1120/1020 thread is that they cutt 100 watts from the draw from the 1019, which tested 34 watts with 5 channels driven.
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So far, I'm definitely pleased with the results. Still more tweaking to do, but sound quality is at least on par (or better) than my previous Denon 1909.
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Am I going to see any improvement in sound compared to a Sony STR-DG820? I'm considering it, not sure how much of an upgrade it is, and e.g. how much difference MCACC will make.
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Picked one up yesterday from Best Busy and canceled my Amazon order.

I hooked it up but was not able to get the zone 2 to work. I attached the zone 2 speakers to the surround backs and then configured my speakers for zone 2 but I'm unable to get any sound out of the zone 2 speakers. If I configure the speakers for a 7.1 setup I can get test tones out of the zone 2 speakers so I know they are attached correctly.

The receiver displays mutizone on the display and I can turn up/down the zone 2 volume but there's no sound.

The instructions in the book are far from perfect so perhaps I've done something wrong. Has anyone else had an issue?


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sources?

the manual would imply (and it would be consistent with previous year's models) that only analog audio sources will be available in zone 2...

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sources?

the manual would imply (and it would be consistent with previous year's models) that only analog audio sources will be available in zone 2...

OK....let it fly

What is an analog source if there are any other than FM radio.....gawd....I hated asking this question....I know it's going to be painful
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Can anyone get their ATI 5xxx card after sleep to "sync" all the time in 1080p?
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OK....let it fly

What is an analog source if there are any other than FM radio.....gawd....I hated asking this question....I know it's going to be painful

not too painful...

what others have done in the past is to hook up their sources with both digital and analog cables...

i know that's not a great solution... but it is what it is... fwiw, it's not unique to pio avr's...

the alternative is to set up the second set of speakers as "speaker b", but then you cannot play different sources at the same time...

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sources?

the manual would imply (and it would be consistent with previous year's models) that only analog audio sources will be available in zone 2...

I would be very interested in a test to see which sources do and do not work in Zone 2. I flipped through the manual a couple weeks ago, and I only recall something like 'some sources do not work on Zone 2', but no difinitive list.

For instance, I was planning on running internet radio and iPod to Zone 2. Will this not be possible?

Can someone out there do a Zone 2 test for us??
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not too painful...

what others have done in the past is to hook up their sources with both digital and analog cables...

i know that's not a great solution... but it is what it is... fwiw, it's not unique to pio avr's...

the alternative is to set up the second set of speakers as "speaker b", but then you cannot play different sources at the same time...

OK....that makes sense!

I would want to listen to the same source on zone two so then I would be able to listen to digital or analog....correct? (w/o having to setup B speakers)
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Can anyone get their ATI 5xxx card after sleep to "sync" all the time in 1080p?

Working for NVIDIA, it pains me to do this. LOL

You can hit up the head of ATI's Catalyst driver team on twitter and Terry will likely have an answer for you the same day.

http://twitter.com/catalystmaker
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I would be very interested in a test to see which sources do and do not work in Zone 2. I flipped through the manual a couple weeks ago, and I only recall something like 'some sources do not work on Zone 2', but no difinitive list.

For instance, I was planning on running internet radio and iPod to Zone 2. Will this not be possible?

Can someone out there do a Zone 2 test for us??

Mine should be delivered late today so that will be one of the first things to test but it may not be until tomorrow.....I will definitely send out the results as soon as I have them unless someone beats me to it!

I'm hoping what they are saying is that the AVR cannot decode from two different digital sources at one timeie one on zone 1 and one on zone 2..
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sources?

the manual would imply (and it would be consistent with previous year's models) that only analog audio sources will be available in zone 2...

I haven't seen this disclaimer but I hope this is not true because I plan on using my Blu-ray player (via HDMI) to play CD's as well as the iPod connection in Zone 2.
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