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I have 2 dumb questions about standby mode:

1. How do I power off the receiver if I have the unit in standby mode so that I am watching tv though my tv speakers? Do I need to go back into the menu and set HDMI Control to OFF or is there an easier way?

2. When the manual speaks about increased power consumption when the unit is in standby mode, does it mean as compared to the unit being powered off? Does the unit use less power in standby mode than when completely powered on?
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I have 2 dumb questions about standby mode:...

Not dumb but certainly "newbie" questions. I suggest you spend some time with your OM and the batpig guide, in particular scroll down thru the HDMI section to this section which answers both your questions:
Q. HDMI Control? I can watch TV when the Denon is off? Wow, really??

As to the OM, this same HDMI Control info is on p36, and p. 80 shows that this feature consumes a miniscule 3W rather than the usual infinitesimal .1W in stanby.

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Does the unit use less power in standby mode than when completely powered on?

It's also worth noting that Denon has reduced the power requirement for HDMI Control from previous year's models ...

2009 & 2010 models: Standby/HDMI Control - OFF (0.3W) Standby/HDMI Control - ON (30W)

2011 models: Standby/HDMI Control - OFF(0.1W) Standby/HDMI Control - ON (3W)

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Not dumb but certainly "newbie" questions. I suggest you spend some time with your OM and the batpig guide, in particular scroll down thru the HDMI section to this section which answers both your questions:
Q. HDMI Control? I can watch TV when the Denon is off? Wow, really??

As to the OM, this same HDMI Control info is on p36, and p. 80 shows that this feature consumes a miniscule 3W rather than the usual infinitesimal .1W in stanby.

Thanks, but the answer to my first question is not answered in Batpig's guide or in the OM (at least I did't see it). I want to know how to power the unit down completely via the remote control after I am finished watching TV in the standby mode. Can someone please help?
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Thanks, but the answer to my first question is not answered in Batpig's guide or in the OM (at least I did't see it). I want to know how to power the unit down completely via the remote control after I am finished watching TV in the standby mode. Can someone please help?

Oops, sorry I misunderstood your first question. If you mean power to the unit completely Off, I don't think you can do that with the remote. I believe you have to press the small Power button on the front of the unit, which is right next to the larger standby button, or unplug the cord. I don't think Denon anticipated much switching off completely as they improved the efficiency, as jd noted above, to 3W. Also, if you leave it Off for more than 2 weeks or so, you will lose all your settings.

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Denon did away with the small hard power button this year

If HDMI Control is on, you cannot power completely down... it will always stay in a standby state so the HDMI circuitry can remain active.

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Denon did away with the small hard power button this year ...

I was wondering why the OM just says to unplug the power cord. Too much to keep up with, how do you do it?!

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Thanks, but the answer to my first question is not answered in Batpig's guide or in the OM (at least I did't see it). I want to know how to power the unit down completely via the remote control after I am finished watching TV in the standby mode. Can someone please help?

As noted, the 2011 models cannot be fully powered OFF unless the power cable is unplugged, rather it's either Standby (HDMI Control - OFF) or Standby (HDMI Control - ON).

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hey did a quick search but didn't find anything.....does anyone know if this remote will work with an AVR 890? some of my buttons aren't working (I am going to blame this on the wife and 5 yr old) I like the look of the new remotes...thanks for any input
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I'm finally going to buy the 1911 and I keep reading this thread sporadically I must admit. Batpig alludes to the fact that the 2311 is a bit more "future proof"than the 1911. How so?

I ask because I'm finally replacing a Yamaha HTR 5560 which I've had for about 7 years and 2 years into the purchase I think HDMI came out. My next receiver I'k like to have for about the same time but be a little more "FP" than the my previous turned out to be. We can't predict the future but I respect and trust Batpig's, Jdsmooth's and all others advise in the forum.

I can budget for an extra 200+ for the 2311 if it will save in the long run, please advise and Thank you for the time you all put in on this forum.
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hey did a quick search but didn't find anything.....does anyone know if this remote will work with an AVR 890? some of my buttons aren't working (I am going to blame this on the wife and 5 yr old) I like the look of the new remotes...thanks for any input

No, Denon re-did the ir codes for receivers year on year. A few buttons will work (tuner and ipod), but basic control will not.
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hey did a quick search but didn't find anything.....does anyone know if this remote will work with an AVR 890? some of my buttons aren't working (I am going to blame this on the wife and 5 yr old) I like the look of the new remotes...thanks for any input

The remote is about 80% of the reason I bought this year's model over last year's. I could have saved a lot, but that older remote looks hideous
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No, Denon re-did the ir codes for receivers year on year. A few buttons will work (tuner and ipod), but basic control will not.

winston, are you SURE of this? the new remote does away with the old selector switches and has a new "feature" in that, when you select a certain input (e.g. DVD) the remote automatically defaults into a preset code mode for that source device. So, for example, when you select the DVD source the "menu" button will not correspond to the Denon OSD menu, but the DVD player menu. This has confused several users who did not understand why the remote didn't seem to be controlling the basic functions of the AVR.

if you push the AMP button you put the remote back in the mode where it controls the AVR exclusively -- does it still not work for basic functions even in AMP mode?

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I'm finally going to buy the 1911 and I keep reading this thread sporadically I must admit. Batpig alludes to the fact that the 2311 is a bit more "future proof"than the 1911. How so?

a few things:

1 - the 2311 simply has more inputs/outputs overall. you get a lot more legacy video support (more analog inputs, usable s-video inputs), more digital audio inputs (4 instead of 2), more HDMI inputs (6 instead of 4), true component video support (the 1911 only has 1 input and no output), etc.

2 - the 2311 has an RS-232 serial port so you can update firmware yourself

3 - the 2311 has enhanced multizone support options, if you ever intend to expand and add another zone

4 - while not really needed for "futureproofing", the better video processor and on-screen GUI with overlaid graphics makes the receiver much easier to use on a day-to-day basis

It just is a bit more flexible, expandable, and easy to use overall.

The 991 model (another $100 up in msrp) adds a bit more future action with networking and Audyssey DSX.

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NOTE: for 791/1911 and 891/2311 users with iPhone (or iPod touch):

Good news! It has been confirmed that if you have an iPhone (or iPod Touch) you can use the USB connection on these Denon models to stream ANY audio from your iPhone, not just iTunes content! That means you can stream audio from Apps like Pandora, Sirius, Rhapsody, and all sorts of other internet content to your receiver using the iPhone connected via USB.

When you connect your iPhone with USB, the menus appear on screen and the device goes into "Browse" mode, allowing you to control the iTunes content via the Denon interface. If you hold down the "Search" button on the Denon remote for a few seconds, the connected iPod/iTouch will switch to "Remote" mode; this will sever the control connection with the Denon, so the menus/graphics will not appear on the TV screen anymore, but you can now use the controls on the iPhone itself to select ANY audio, including Apps, and it will stream through the Denon via the USB connection.

This procedure is described in your manual under the section describing "Connect an iPod directly to the USB port".

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been looking to get a receiver for a while now. i think i'm pretty set on the AVR 2311 but i'm not sure where is a good place to get this receiver. is there a good online site with good prices for these?
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Batpig once again thanks for your help, I just ordered the 2311 and I can't wait. One of the points you made that really made the difference was the serial port. I just read in one of the older posts that the previous models have had about 3 firmware upgrades. I think that alone is worth it not to mention the extra HDMI's.
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been looking to get a receiver for a while now. i think i'm pretty set on the AVR 2311 but i'm not sure where is a good place to get this receiver. is there a good online site with good prices for these?

Just a note I just ordered my 2311 through Electronics Expo as posted by Jdsmoothie, if you decide to go with them use code "LSDA0712" at check out and you'll find a very generous discount.
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is there a difference between the 2311CI and just the 2311? electronics expo has 2 different models.

edit lol nevermind i was just seeing things
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Just a note I just ordered my 2311 through Electronics Expo as posted by Jdsmoothie, if you decide to go with them use code "LSDA0712" at check out and you'll find a very generous discount.

Thanks for the code it worked GREAT!!!
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i find it kind of weird. both electronic expo and 6ave are basically giving a huge discount - so am i something i'm missing?
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You'll be missing alot of your money if you go with someone else ....

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You'll be missing alot of your money if you go with someone else ....

yeah, electronic expo with the discount is VERY hard to pass up.

now i just need some speakers to go along with this receiver...
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yeah, electronic expo with the discount is VERY hard to pass up.

now i just need some speakers to go along with this receiver...

Which is why I didn't pass it up. Got a new Sub too
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any suggestions on the speakers?
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That depends on your budget (the Energy Take Classic match well for under $500), although you're better served posting in the speaker forum.

Also, remember that as Electronics Expo is a Denon Authorized vendor, you're new 2311CI will have a 3 year warranty (vice the usual 2 year warranty for the non-CI models).

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Hey guys,

I've decided to skip 3D for now, so I won't be needing HMDI 1.4

So would the AVR 1910 Crutchfield deal be the best bang for the buck?

For the money, is it the best overall non-3D Denon that still has plenty of power and decodes all the latest sound modes?

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Depends on your requirements ... if you only need 5.1 then the 1610 would work just as well.

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jdsmoothie,

Yes, that's a good point. Thank you. I forgot to mention it. And indeed, I only need 5.1

There's no way I'm ever going to have 7 speakers in this small space, and this receiver will be used in this space long-term, so I have no needs for future upgrades in this situation.

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