Originally Posted by thewonderer
...That went well with just a slight measurement change to the subwoofer distance, which the system thought was further away by 10% that what i measured. Changed the main fronts to small also and had to tell it the polarity was correct (triple checked it for the fronts).
I then put on a multichannel disc and quickly checked it out. In direct mode, it sounded quite flat (can't recall the EQ settings it setup), pressed the STANDARD button, then the multi EQ setting button on the remote and the sound was much sweeter. Then i checked what other settings were enabled. ...If Pure Direct is the pureset sound, Direct is the 2nd purest sound, both with no Audyssey processing, is the STANDARD setting the next setting in terms of least DSP effects....Is it possible to use the speaker measurements that MultiEQ obtained to setup/balance the front 2 speakers for pure direct CD / hi-res audio listening?...
Hi. Reading batpig's guide Audyssey section
and following the Audyssey setup guide
is a great way to understand Audyssey, an important feature of your AVR. Do not reset the sub "distance" lower, as it is actually measuring acoustic delay. As you did, skip the polarity warning after confirming you're wired correctly (just once will do
). If you like, post all your values (level, xovers) for review here. We recommend raising all xovers to 80 as a start.
As to Pure Direct/Direct,yes those apply "minimal" processing but let's be clear, it is all
processed, so none
of it is "Pure". The funny part is that the additional Audyssey processing is exactly what makes it sound so much better, particularly if you do not have very expensive speakers in an acoustically treated room. I would say that for most of us, Direct/Pure Direct is actually INADEQUATE processing. The reason Audyssey sounds "sweeter" is that it has optimized the processing for your room and speakers. And when you enable DEQ, it further optimizes the sound for the volume you're listening at. For ex., so that the natural psychacoustic effect of the bass sounding weaker and weaker as you turn it down is adjusted for, so it sounds full and rich, as it should
. The Audyssey website
and AVS Audyssey thread
are great sources of info on this breakthru state of the art technology.
Yes, the Std button keeps you away from weird Denon DSP modes. I do not use those nor Dir/PureDir. And I always have Audyssey ON as EQ and DEQ ON (the red light) as the mode. You will find DEQ needs no adjustment for standard film sountracks but often needs to be adjusted for other, non-standardized sources such as TV and CD's, with the reference level offset. Or if you want to turn it off, you have all the options, as you listed. DVol does not enhance the overall SQ as DEQ does, rather it is dynamic compression, which evens out the loud and soft parts for your listening convenience. I use it as needed, for ex., for commercial TV to tone down commercials, in mild (Day) or medium (Eve) mode, but never when wanting to enjoy the full effect of music or film.
As to your last question, yes the distance measurements and crossovers are applied automatically to all modes as a default after autosetup, even when Audyssey is off. With Audyssey off you can also select Manual EQ which has a basic basic graphic EQ and you can select "base curve copy" which applies a very coarse, approximate version of the Audyssey EQ to the graphic EQ for you.