FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONSQ. What is the difference between the three-digit models (e.g. AVR 791) and the four-digit models (e.g. AVR 1911)?
A: In general, NOTHING. Denon puts out two parallel receiver lineups, with four-digit and three-digit model numbers. The four-digit models are generally sold by high end stereo shops and custom installers, and the three-digit models are the "consumer" version sold in retail outlets like Best Buy and Fry's.
However, there is ZERO difference in terms of power, specs, sound quality, build quality, etc. between the two lines. Denon has been doing this for years, it is exactly analogous to the Yamaha HTR and RX-V parallel receiver lines.
There will usually be one or two minor differences to differentiate the three-digit and four-digit models. There is typically a slight cosmetic difference between the two lines, and different remotes.
For more info, please see the Denon Model Numbers page at batpigworld:http://batpigworld.com/models.html
Q. OK, what are the specific differences?
A: see the listing below for specific differences between the "twin" models --The AVR 791 and AVR 1911 are "twin" models.
The only differences between the two (beyond cosmetics) are:
(1) The AVR 1911 adds HD radio
(2) The AVR 1911 has Zone 2 pre-outs (so you are not required to use the "amp assign" to power Zone 2). This means that, with the additional of an external 2-channel amp, the 1911 can run 7.1 + Zone 2 (whereas the 791 can only do 5.1 + Zone 2).
(3) The AVR 1911 has a "Room-to-room" remote control jack so you can hard-wire an infrared remote extender for your 2nd zoneIN ALL OTHER RESPECTS, THE AVR 791 AND 1911 ARE IDENTICAL!The AVR 891 and AVR 2311 are "twin" models.
The 2311, being the "CI" model, adds a few features; the differences between the two (beyond cosmetics) are:
(1) The AVR 2311 adds HD radio
(2) The AVR 2311 has Zone 2 pre-outs (so you are not required to use the "amp assign" to power Zone 2). This means that, with the additional of an external 2-channel amp, the 2311 can run 7.1 + Zone 2 (whereas the 891 can only do 5.1 + Zone 2).
(3) The AVR 2311 has expanded Zone 2 setup options, including bass/treble controls and optional HPF (high-pass filter) for Zone 2 speakers, the ability to switch Zone 2 between stereo and mono, and variable volume output for the Zone 2 pre-outs
(4) The AVR 2311 has a "Room-to-room" remote control jack so you can hard-wire an infrared remote extender for your 2nd zone
(5) The AVR 2311 has the "CI" features: RS-232 control port, 12V trigger outputIN ALL OTHER RESPECTS, THE AVR 891 AND 2311 ARE IDENTICAL!Q. Does the AVR 791 have more power than the 1911? And 891 vs 2311??
This is pure marketing gimmickry!!The AVR 791 and 1911 have IDENTICAL amplifier sections!!!The AVR 891 and 2311 have IDENTICAL amplifier sections!!!
Denon decided to quote the "6-ohm" wattage spec instead of the "8-ohm" spec purely to make the 3-digit models look more impressive on the shelves of Best Buy, Fry's, etc. If you look at the actual manuals / product sheets, you will see that the amplifier specs are actually identical among these models!Q. Should I get one of these new models, or buy a cheaper xx10 model on closeout??
A: This is what's NEW on the xx11 models:
- HDMI 1.4, which supports 3D video, ARC (audio return channel) and ethernet over HDMI
- a front-panel USB port that is compatible with iPod/iPhone direct play and control (also music off USB drives)
- a new, improved remote (all the buttons are on one side!)
- HD radio (4-digit models only!)
This is what you LOSE on the xx11 models:
- No more EXT IN multichannel analog inputs
- Fewer "legacy" inputs (e.g. component video, s-video, etc)
- No more "B" speaker posts (although you can reassign the surr.back amps to "Front B" if you want to use a dedicated pair of 2-ch music speakers)
- No more switched outlets
That is basically it -- if you don't care about 3D or the USB port for your iPod/iPhone, you can get the xx10 model without missing out on much.Assume that sound quality is IDENTICAL!
The xx10 and xx11 models have the same Audyssey MultEQ room processing, same audio codecs, etc.Q. Should I go with the 791/1911 model or is it worth it to pay more for the 891/2311CI model?
A: That depends! Again, assume that sound quality is IDENTICAL!
Do NOT buy the next model up with the expectation that you will get better sound quality. All "consumer" models, from the lowly AVR 391 to the AVR 2311CI, have the same basic amp section, DSP chips, and Audyssey processing. ONLY buy the next model up if you actually want the extra features!The AVR 791 and 1911 are twin models
-- see above for the specific differences. They provide:
- Four HDMI 1.4 inputs and one output
- Analog video inputs = one component video input and two composite video inputs
- Digital audio inputs = one coaxial and one optical digital audio input
- Analog audio inputs = four analog RCA audio inputs (the "CD" input is audio-only!)
- Front-panel USB input with iPod/iPhone direct play and control (can also play MP3/WMA/AAC off a USB drive)
- Audyssey MultEQ room correction with Dynamic EQ + Dynamic Volume
- Video conversion of any input (analog or digital) up to 1080p with ABT-1030 video processor chip
- Basic black/white OSD which CANNOT OVERLAY on top of video; when you call up the OSD, the video will blank out and the OSD will appearThe AVR 891 and 2311CI are twin models
-- see above for the specific differences. They provide the following additional features beyond the 791/1911:
- 6 HDMI inputs (instead of 4)
- Greater selection of "legacy" inputs: two component video inputs, two each coaxial and optical digital audio inputs, two S-video inputs, three composite video inputs, and six RCA analog audio inputs.
- Better DAC's and ADC (again, making it a better choice if analog / legacy support is important)
- A component video monitor output (with GUI support)
- Dual subwoofer outputs (note that these are IDENTICAL mirrored outputs, they do not get separate distance/level/EQ settings)
- Upgraded video processing, including:
... (1) superior ABT-2015 video scaling chip (better HD processing and deinterlacing performance)
... (2) color GUI menus instead of basic black/white text OSD
... (3) the ability to OVERLAY volume, status, and GUI graphics on top of the video signal
... (4) picture adjustments (color, brightnes, contrast, etc) can be set separately for each input
... (5) the ability to convert analog video to component video output (and can still use GUI via component out)
- The AVR 2311CI also adds an RS-232 port (so you can do firmware updates at home without sending it into a repair center) and enhanced Zone 2 flexibility (stereo/mono switch, variable or fixed volume on RCA pre-outs, bass/treble control, and HPF control).Q. Should I go with the 891/2311 model or is it worth it to pay a bit more to step up to the 991 model?
A: That still depends! The new AVR 991 (a slightly stripped-down version of the 3311CI) adds several features compared to the 2311/891 level for only $100-200 more msrp.
This is what you get stepping up to the AVR 991:
- slightly more power
- MultEQ XT (instead of regular MultEQ)
- Audyssey DSX
- Networking (including DLNA support, and Pandora, Rhapsody, Flickr streaming)
- It is a bit more of an "audiophile" unit too for critical 2ch music buffs, with a PHONO input, AL24+ processing on the front channels, and slightly better analog components.
If you are willing to spend all the way up to the 3311CI, you add:
- 3 zone support
- a second smaller remote for Zone 2/3 (IR only)
- dual 12V trigger outputs
- pre-outs for all channels
- 3 year "CI" warranty