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Yea. It's not an option on anything, including stuff that has the 5.1 logo.
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Maybe try rebooting the Roku?
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maybe because its 5.1 using Dolby Digital Plus and not standard DD5.1?

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maybe because its 5.1 using Dolby Digital Plus and not standard DD5.1?
No my receiver can handle everything.

I had to go into my account on the site and change playback/viewing options to "high" instead of "auto". Fun.
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I have owned a Denon AVR-988 for 5 years and it has been a workhorse. Unfortunately, the DSP crapped out on me and gives static from the left speaker constantly. The 7.1 analogue works fine, so I know it is not the amp or speaker connections. I have the opportunity to get a 591 to replace it. Here is my question. Will I be able to use the 988's remote and audyssey mic with the 591? The 591 I am looking to acquire does not come with either the remote or setup mic. Will the mic I have for the older unit work when setting up dynamic EQ on the 591? Thanks in advance!!

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Why would you want want to drop down to a 591? That's like going from a Lexus to a Toyota Corolla.

And no, you can't use the 988 mic as the mic calibration files changed the following year in 2008.

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I only need 5.1. I won't need the analogue inputs as the 591 has 4 Hdmi ins. All 3D, which is important to me. Both are 110 per channel.
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Not quite, the 591 is a lower level model which uses the lower version of Audyssey MultEQ vice XT on the 988.

988 - 110W into 2CH

591 - 75W into 2CH

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Not quite, the 591 is a lower level model which uses the lower version of Audyssey MultEQ vice XT on the 988.

988 - 110W into 2CH

591 - 75W into 2CH
I use my avr exclusively for multichannel. This review made me give it consideration. As for why I am considering this compromise as a replacement? Budget my friend, budget.

Meet the Denon AVR-591, in our opinion, a steal at $350. Nowadays, virtually all of your video sources -- game consoles, DVD and Blu-ray players, DVR and TV settop boxes, Internet video boxes like the Roku, Apple TV or Google TV -- connect via a simple HDMI cable, instead of separate, interconnected audio and video cables. So now you can connect up to four HDMI devices to the receiver, and then have just a single one going to your TV. We can't stress enough how convenient this is, or how it foolproofs setting up your receiver. Nicely, the 591 is HDMI 1.4a compliant, which means it supports some newer technologies (and is somewhat future-proof) like Blu-ray add-ons and 3-D video, if that ever becomes a mainstream option. Otherwise, it will pretty much work like a classic receiver would: pick your source and adjust volume and surround mode using the remote (or physical dials and buttons). Or for customization fans, use one of the three programmable presets, so that hitting one button might turn on the Blu-ray while another heads to your PS3. An additional handy feature lets you setup the amp's inputs and settings via your TV, instead of forcing you to squint at a display on the amp itself.

As far as audio options, the 591 is a legit powerhouse capable of going from simple two-speaker stereo up to 5.1 surround, with 120 watts per channel from five discrete internal amplifiers (for surround junkies, you can also hook up two more speakers for 7.1), and it decodes Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Pro Logic IIz, DTS decoder and DTS-HD Master Audio. For old-school analog devices, there are a few RCA inputs (though you'll have to relabel the input as such using the menu options) and in a nod to modern listening tastes, there's an iPod-specific input for use with a dock. We're especially impressed that audio setup can be adjusted automatically using the included Audyssey MultiEQ microphone; the gist is that you set-up everything, plug this mic into the receiver and place it where you'll sit and the receiver will automagically tweak audio settings to perfection. It's a feature usually found on much higher-end devices and so it's a welcome surprise and particularly useful if you're going the surround sound route.

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Understood. However, for $50 more you can get the X2000 on clearance with a 3 year warranty and MultEQ XT.

Also note, the 120W quoted in the ad is at 6-ohm and a much higher THD of 0.7%.

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You can use any of the following mics ... DMA409, ACM1H, or ACM1HB.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audyssey-Aut...item3a95b01c51

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Thanks JD for all your advice!!
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I use my avr exclusively for multichannel. This review made me give it consideration. As for why I am considering this compromise as a replacement? Budget my friend, budget.

Meet the Denon AVR-591, in our opinion, a steal at $350. Nowadays, virtually all of your video sources -- game consoles, DVD and Blu-ray players, DVR and TV settop boxes, Internet video boxes like the Roku, Apple TV or Google TV -- connect via a simple HDMI cable, instead of separate, interconnected audio and video cables. So now you can connect up to four HDMI devices to the receiver, and then have just a single one going to your TV. We can't stress enough how convenient this is, or how it foolproofs setting up your receiver. Nicely, the 591 is HDMI 1.4a compliant, which means it supports some newer technologies (and is somewhat future-proof) like Blu-ray add-ons and 3-D video, if that ever becomes a mainstream option. Otherwise, it will pretty much work like a classic receiver would: pick your source and adjust volume and surround mode using the remote (or physical dials and buttons). Or for customization fans, use one of the three programmable presets, so that hitting one button might turn on the Blu-ray while another heads to your PS3. An additional handy feature lets you setup the amp's inputs and settings via your TV, instead of forcing you to squint at a display on the amp itself.

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I own the Denon AVR 591. It's a nice receiver but certainly not worth $350 now. Like JD said you could get the much better x2000 for $50 more. The x1000 is actually the 5.1 replacement for the 591 and has MultEQ XT and you can get it under $300. Both the x1000 and x2000 have an ethernet port which is great for firmware updates as well as networking, Airplay, internet radio, Pandora, etc.

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I would only get the 591 if you could get it for 100 bucks and you were severely cash strapped for a replacement. If you can afford $300-400 get a nicer used / clearance unit.
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I was looking at a used one for under $100 to hold me over until next Spring.

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Any opinions on this one in comparison to the 591 or X1000? It's a 2014 model. No Audyssey :-( But I can get a brand new one for free......

Denon S-Series 5.2 Channel Full 4K Ultra HD A/V Receiver
Prepared for the future, this best-in-class receiver delivers sonic performance and a host of features.

Features:
70 Watts per channel at 8 ohms
5.2-channel speaker output
4K video pass-through
Built-in Bluetooth® audio streaming
Five HDMI™ inputs, one HDMI™ output and one USB input
Eco Mode reduces overall power consumption
Dual subwoofer outputs
Auto setup with Room EQ
On-screen GUI
AM/FM radio
Large character display
Includes an FM indoor antenna, AM loop antenna, remote control, and a sound calibration microphone
Dimensions: 17-1/10" W x 5-9/10" H x 12-3/5" D. Weight: 16.5 lbs.


Model number: AVR-S500BT

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Free would be hard to pass up, but an Audyssey model would likely sound better.

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Unless you REAAAALY want Bluetooth or something I'd rather pay 100 bucks for the 591 than take the S500BT for free if I needed something cheap to hold me over for a few months. To me having Audyssey calibration (with Dynamic EQ and Dyn Vol) is much more important than any newer features (and be aware that beyond lack of Audyssey the basic model like the S500BT is missing a lot of simple stuff like input renaming).

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Unless you REAAAALY want Bluetooth or something I'd rather pay 100 bucks for the 591 than take the S500BT for free if I needed something cheap to hold me over for a few months. To me having Audyssey calibration (with Dynamic EQ and Dyn Vol) is much more important than any newer features (and be aware that beyond lack of Audyssey the basic model like the S500BT is missing a lot of simple stuff like input renaming).
I appreciate the advice, but the trigger has been pulled. The 591 was used and slightly dented according to the person selling it on ebay. It also had no remote or setup mic. Using my worthless travel rewards points to get a free Denon receiver seemed like a better option. As for Audyssey, as long as the S500BT's setup program can properly set my trims and delays, I should be fine. While I did utilize the MultiEQ settings on my old 988, I always tinkered with settings here and there to customize to my own preferences. I guess I'll have to up my tinkering a bit more. :-)

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By the way, while I wait for delivery on the new AVR, I've been utilizing the 5.1 analog connections on my 988 with my Oppo Blu ray. In this mode, Audyssey is disabled, but I have been able to manage quite a robust performance out of my system. If I can get this setup to sound good with minimal or no EQ, I probably can live without Audyssey for a while. (Runs for cover after typing last sentence....)

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Each room is different so entirely possible.

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Thanks for the encouragement JD. I know I'm going to lose some performance power dropping from the 988/2808 to the current entry level model, but the convenience of hooking up all my media devices, cablebox, and 3D blu ray players without any annoying HDMI splitters, as well as blutooth connectivity and a much better GUI will take some of the sting out of the 40 Watt per channel loss. I think...........


Plus an added subwoofer sometime down the line could compensate for the power decline :-) I'd like to put that .2 to use, Wife willing.

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You're not likely to notice the difference in power at only 40W and keep in mind the second sub pre-out can be replicated on any single sub pre-out model by simply adding a $3 RCA "Y" splitter cable, to include the 988.

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