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post #4831 of 4850 Old 07-10-2015, 02:40 PM - Thread Starter
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I am watching streaming movies on my Roku stick and I have my Roku stick connect via HDMI through my avr. The streaming movies are AAC sound. Can my receiver encode them to 5.1 surround sound? Right now all it shows on the display is PLii. Is there a setting I need to change or am I stuck with false surround sound with PLii.
That's up to the source, not the receiver. The receiver can only play the signal it is given.

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That's up to the source, not the receiver. The receiver can only play the signal it is given.
well the source is saying it is AAC sound
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I am watching streaming movies on my Roku stick and I have my Roku stick connect via HDMI through my avr. The streaming movies are AAC sound. Can my receiver encode them to 5.1 surround sound? Right now all it shows on the display is PLii. Is there a setting I need to change or am I stuck with false surround sound with PLii.
DD PLII means a stereo signal is being received and a 5.1 signal is being output to your speakers.

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Quick question. Does the 591 have any kind of video noise reduction? I have a laser disc player hooked to it that needs it Thanks
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Quick question. Does the 591 have any kind of video noise reduction? I have a laser disc player hooked to it that needs it Thanks
The 591 has no video processing on board at all .. so no.

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To All,

I know I'm late to this party, but I'd like to thank all those who asked excellent question and to all those who gave some great answer (especially you Batpig). If not for this thread, I may have never discovered some of the awesome things my AVR591 could do. It has made an great receiver into and fantastic, great receiver!

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HELP!? Partially Blown Channel? Denon AVR591

Denon AVR591 Partially blown Channel?
Hello all,

I am a new user here and also a new AVR owner. After upgrading from a Yamaha that is nearly 20 yrs old I grabbed a Denon AVR591 for a pretty stellar price used. I got home, hooked it up and ran Audyssey and everything worked great. No problems with ANY channels (all 5.1 used). I tested the channel levels in the Manual Audio settings to tweak the sound to our room and everything ran smoothly. Now two weeks later I added a new Polk Audio CS2 as the center channel (Previously KEF Reference Series Model 90) and still everything seemed fine up until today. I went to tweak the channel dB levels and I found my Sur. L speaker has sound output but the volume is very muffled. I checked to see if it was the speaker dying by switching the L and R surrounds and the issue persisted; Sur. L is muffled (but not silent). I further tested to see if the issue was my wireless surround kit by wiring the speaker directly to the Sur. L channel port on Receiver: Problem persisted. Is it possible to have a channel partially blown? My understanding is that if the fuse/transistor was blown there would be NO audio output on that channel. Are there any steps to be taken? My Sur. R is set to -2dB and I have to turn my Sur. L up to +6dB to be pretty close to the same volume level. Could this be a problem with Audyssey itself or is there something electrical I must look for? Any solutions/advice are appreciated and if this is the WRONG place for this post please Direct my to the appropriate area. Very much appreciated.

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If raising the SL to +6db resolves your issue, likely the best work around as repair would likely cost at least $200-$300.

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I have a question about the 1611. I bought one about a year ago for $100 just because I thought it was a great deal, even though I already had a 4311 in my HT and a 789 in my living room set-up. Now I'm helping a friend of mine build a modest HT in his garage and he'd like to have a 7.1 setup. He'd also like to have a zone 2 for his pair of patio speakers. Is the 1611 capable of having this setup using an additional 2 CH outboard amp?

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I have a question about the 1611. I bought one about a year ago for $100 just because I thought it was a great deal, even though I already had a 4311 in my HT and a 789 in my living room set-up. Now I'm helping a friend of mine build a modest HT in his garage and he'd like to have a 7.1 setup. He'd also like to have a zone 2 for his pair of patio speakers. Is the 1611 capable of having this setup using an additional 2 CH outboard amp?

Thanks in advance.

Not using an external amp no, as there are no Zone 2 pre-outs on the 1611, however, with only a 5.1 setup in the garage the Surround Back speaker posts can be assigned to Zone 2 to power the patio speakers.

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Ok guys I have a Denon AVR 591. I been reading the PCM is better than dolby digital and DTS . Most of the things I watch it shows up as PL ii C. Can I get a better sound going to PCM. And if I can how do I turn on PCM. Thanks.

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Ok guys I have a Denon AVR 591. I been reading the PCM is better than dolby digital and DTS . Most of the things I watch it shows up as PL ii C. Can I get a better sound going to PCM. And if I can how do I turn on PCM. Thanks.

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Contrary to what you have read ... PCM is not better, rather it is simply the result of an "unzipped" DD/DTS file. The surround mode DD PLII-C simply means a stereo signal (likely PCM 2.0) is being received from the source device and is then being simulated to 5.1. If you want DD from the source device you'll have to set the cable/sat box to "Dolby Digital" and set the DVD/Blu Ray player to "bitstream" with Secondary Audio/Mix set to OFF.

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How good is PL ii C.

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How good is PL ii C.

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It's not about being good rather simply, in order to simulate 5.1 audio from a 2.0 source, you can use either DD PLII or DTS Neo:6.

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Ok if I am getting a pcm 2.0 source which is the best

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That's like me asking you "which would I prefer better .. an apple or an orange?" (ie. only you can decide as they are your ears).

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Thinking of picking up a 591 for the garage. I currently have 6 speakers. If I use an external amp for ONE height, will it simply get the L and R Heights mono'd?

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Thinking of picking up a 591 for the garage. I currently have 6 speakers. If I use an external amp for ONE height, will it simply get the L and R Heights mono'd?

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You would have to setup as a single Surround Back in the SBL pre-out, otherwise as Front Height would only get the FHL signal.

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Thanks JD- I thought there was a chance heights would work the same as rears in regards to single channel, but no big deal. l

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Ok if I am getting a pcm 2.0 source which is the best
If you have a 2.0 channel source, in other words stereo, you could simply play it as 2.0 audio in which case you'd hear sound coming out of only the two front speakers. On the other hand, if you play it as Dolby PLII C you'll hear sound out of all 5.1 speakers. For a movie designed to be played that way, the PLII C will probably sound better, but an old audio track from the 1970's designed for stereo might sound better in 2.0. The simplest way to tell is to listen. Which sounds better will depend not only on the source, but also on your particular speaker arrangement and on your personal preference.

But getting back to your original question about DD 5.1, you'll want to do as JD advised and set your source (BD Player or Cable Box) to a DD 5.1 because that will definitely sound better than PLII C.

As far a PCM goes, you may prefer that. Again, you would make that setting at the source. For example, my Pink Floyd "The Wall" DVD has two audio settings in its main menu. I can select 2.0 PCM and get uncompressed sound. Some people claim the uncompressed audio sounds better -- for technical reasons it should sound better because the bit stream (the digital stream of 0's and 1's) is a more faithful reproduction of the original analog audio signal. Personally I can't be sure I hear that difference and many experts say the difference is too small to hear except under the most ideal of conditions using the best gear.

That PCM track is 2.0 so I get audio out of only the two front speakers. I could get audio out of all 5.1 speakers by selecting PLIIC on the receiver, but it would be much better to select the DD 5.1 track and get compressed 5.1 sound because even though it's compressed the sounds I hear coming from each speaker are exactly what the author wanted to put there whereas with PLIIC I get only a guess. But that DD 5.1 track is compressed so I'm getting an inexact stream of those 0's and 1's.

The blu-ray formats like TrueHD and DTS MA and PCM give you the true bit stream out of all 5.1 (or more) speakers so they are touted as better. But as I said, it's difficult to hear that difference.

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