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I see there is a new version of the Marantz Remote iPhone app. I also see a new (to me) app called DeRemote. Have any of you tried them yet and have a report to share?


that app "description" indicates 2012 models.
does this mean they may be a newer model of the av7005 this year ?

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In the manual it looks like if you are in a 7.1 input mode it recommends a +10db boost for the subwoofer, am I missreading this or do they recommend having the subwoofer run that hot.
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that app "description" indicates 2012 models.
does this mean they may be a newer model of the av7005 this year ?

Stay tuned, looks like something might be happening but we'll have to wait for a bit to see.......
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In the manual it looks like if you are in a 7.1 input mode it recommends a +10db boost for the subwoofer, am I missreading this or do they recommend having the subwoofer run that hot.

Yup. When bass management is not disengaged (as it is with the multi ch analog inputs) the LFE (0.1) is bumped +10db, therefore the same recommendation is made when using the multi ch inputs.

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Talked to the Denon/Marantz reps today at Audiokarma Fest in MI and word from the horse's mouth is that there are some nice new Marantz prepros coming out. Soonest (months) will be the successor to the 7005, priced at only a few hundred more. Next (more months) will be a much more expensive one that will be the flagship, closer to the current Denon flagship pre/pro. Sorry, I have no specifics. That is all I know.

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Talked to the Denon/Marantz reps today at Audiokarma Fest in MI and word from the horse's mouth is that there are some nice new Marantz prepros coming out. Soonest (months) will be the successor to the 7005, priced at only a few hundred more. Next (more months) will be a much more expensive one that will be the flagship, closer to the current Denon flagship pre/pro. Sorry, I have no specifics. That is all I know.

With that kind of thought do you think there would be any reason if again it was even possible (know there is some debate as to yes/no) to offer up XT32 for this unit? They have no real reason to and I assume it will have XT32 and that would push folks to buy the newer units.

A guy can hope and pray can't he???

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One can hope, but I'm certainly not going to hold my breath. I'd sure be a nice gesture to enhance brand loyalty.

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With that kind of thought do you think there would be any reason if again it was even possible (know there is some debate as to yes/no) to offer up XT32 for this unit?

I would expect it to have XT32 (pretty much the only significant thing missing right now, right?).

Thing is, by the time this "AV7005 successor" comes out (with XT32) another new Denon receiver will be released simultaneously, however equipped with Audyssey "XT128". "AV7005 successor" owners will be crying again
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Talked to the Denon/Marantz reps today at Audiokarma Fest in MI and word from the horse's mouth is that there are some nice new Marantz prepros coming out. Soonest (months) will be the successor to the 7005, priced at only a few hundred more. Next (more months) will be a much more expensive one that will be the flagship, closer to the current Denon flagship pre/pro. Sorry, I have no specifics. That is all I know.

That's exciting news.

When you say months and more months, did you get the impression on how many of each?

Did you get the impression that the Marantz flagship would also be priced similar to the Denon flagship which basically means $7,500????

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In the manual it looks like if you are in a 7.1 input mode it recommends a +10db boost for the subwoofer, am I missreading this or do they recommend having the subwoofer run that hot.

You should test this. In theory, it should be +10 dB (because that's what DD and DTS add that the MC analog input doesn't), but in my case, I have separate SACD and DVD-A test discs, and I got +5dB for both for the levels to match.

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1) i was wondering is there a way to control Subwoofer On/Off directly from the remote ? ( i mean without going into menus and such)


2) How about Audyssey MultEQ XT manual/Off/Audyssey
will be nice to switch between those when i listen to music.

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2) How about Audyssey MultEQ XT manual/Off/Audyssey
will be nice to switch between those when i listen to music.

Not too easy but, imho, not necessary. Switch to "direct" or use an analog input for music, if that's what you want.

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thats a good idea , switching between Stereo (with Audyssey enabled) to Pure Direct.

any way to turn On/Off Sub ?

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while playing tonight with Pandora , this is what happened :
the Display on the unit turns off a sec after i touch any button.
well i know it's a "mode" , but i didnt choose it. And it doesnt let me cancel it.
I mean i can press all day on "Display" on the remote OR in the UNIT front panel ...nothing. The details of Pandora disappeared from the TV as well.

So i switch to CD or any other input , i get the display on the unit and TV back. all normal. i switch back to NET/USB i'm back in the same situation.
Turning the Unit Off and On doesnt help.

So i switch to "Stereo" button 2 from "P. DIrect" button 3 , i get the display back ... i'm like... is this the way this unit work ? or i'm missing something here ?
This is the second unit , i sent the first one b/c it locked twice on me plus i experienced random white noise on the sub channel.

this unit has the same noise on the sub channel, and those display issues ?
unless i'm doing something wrong here ?

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good idea, switching between Stereo (with Audyssey enabled) to Pure Direct. any way to turn On/Off Sub

Well, remember Pure Direct shuts off your video and doesn't really make any sig. difference over Direct IME. For the sub, in Direct mode the sub is OFF unless there is .1 LFE channel native in the material, so for stereo music the the sub is OFF anyway.

Also, if your remote has a "Ch level" button (or equiv), like the Denon, then stereo mode has a sub on/off toggle on that screen.

For Audyssey, doesn't your remote have an "EQ" button (or equiv) like the Denon? That cycles through OFF, Flat, Manual, etc. BTW, the only reason I turn off Audyssey is th hear how bad my room is.

Oh, the batpig Denon Guide (most of it applies to Marantz) gives a lot of straightforward info and tips. Reading of your OM will also help you pick up a lot of this kinda stuff, though is known to cause headaches.

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Did you get the impression that the Marantz flagship would also be priced similar to the Denon flagship which basically means $7,500????

Keep in mind the "former" Denon flagship AVP and the 5308CI are now discontinued with the new 4520CI (MSRP $2500) to become the new flagship model.

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thats a good idea , switching between Stereo (with Audyssey enabled) to Pure Direct.

any way to turn On/Off Sub ?

In DIRECT or PURE DIRECT modes, there is no bass management so the sub is inactive for stereo 2.0 audio. Also as SOM notes, when in PURE DIRECT mode the front panel display will go out by design.

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That's exciting news.
When you say months and more months, did you get the impression on how many of each?
Did you get the impression that the Marantz flagship would also be priced similar to the Denon flagship which basically means $7,500????

Sorry, time was short and the guy was distracted by other folks and other questions so I got piecemeal info. IIRC not long on the 7005 replacement, mebbe 3-4 mos, followed by the flagship after another 3-4 mos, but please don't quote me.

No, he seemed to imply the flagship Marantz would not be as complex and expensive as the top outgoing Denon AVP; my impression was mebbe $1.5K more than the 7005 replacement? He implied Marantz would get the new hi-end pre/pros and Denon the new hi-end AVRs.

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Well, remember Pure Direct shuts off your video and doesn't really make any sig. difference over Direct IME.

Pure Direct does not turn off HDMI video sources, they pass through successfully, it only turns off analog video sources.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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^Thnx for clarifying. Once I established Pure Dir offers no improvement in SQ over Dir in my Denons, I stopped paying attention.

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Anyone off the top of their heads know how to un-hide the inactive inputs. I just bought an 'Xbox 360 and want to assign it to one of the HDMI inputs I hid so I just had the ones I am using listed. Now I can't find where to un-hide them or remember exactly how I hd them to start with..

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Menu/Manual Setup/Option Setup/Source Delete

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Setup Menu/Manual Setup/Option(1)
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I just received my latest issue of Home Theater magazine, and on the cover was a photograph of the McIntosh MX121 Surround Processor. Upon going to page 47I caught an image of a remote that looked identical to my AV7005 remote with the McIntosh logo on the bottom.

The reviewer gives a brief statement that this new $6000 unit is an "upgraded" AV7005 with chassis and board modifications to make it reflect McIntosh build standards. The biggest change I see on the rear panel are the balanced outputs have been placed along the bottom edge instead of stacked on the right center of the unit. The McIntosh black glass face is there, and the entire display is on the front, and not behind a door. The inclusion of an up/down/left/right toggle control button is on the left, and of course the unit has the cool McIntosh green lettering.

All factors equal, I believe that we AV7005 owners purchased a real "bargin", and saved enough money to buy the next generation of the Marantz versions of this platform.
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Got it thanks...wrote it down so I don't forget again.
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I just received my latest issue of Home Theater magazine, and on the cover was a photograph of the McIntosh MX121 Surround Processor. Upon going to page 47I caught an image of a remote that looked identical to my AV7005 remote with the McIntosh logo on the bottom.

The reviewer gives a brief statement that this new $6000 unit is an "upgraded" AV7005 with chassis and board modifications to make it reflect McIntosh build standards. The biggest change I see on the rear panel are the balanced outputs have been placed along the bottom edge instead of stacked on the right center of the unit. The McIntosh black glass face is there, and the entire display is on the front, and not behind a door. The inclusion of an up/down/left/right toggle control button is on the left, and of course the unit has the cool McIntosh green lettering.

All factors equal, I believe that we AV7005 owners purchased a real "bargin", and saved enough money to buy the next generation of the Marantz versions of this platform.

Mac.


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Els, thanks for that info.

Here's a pic from another forum of the Mac's insides.[edit: don't know why it is different from the above}

I'm sure there will be many posts regarding how much better sounding/looking the markedly pricier Mac is to the Marantz, but I for one wont be believing any of them.*

*barring testing done with proper scientific protocols such as precise level matching using external instrumentation and a double blind methodology to preclude expectation biases.


edit to add: Face2, is that your own unit? If not please provide a link to your source, thanks.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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Hey Chris,

It's funny how in that thread you link to they ask, "I wonder why in this day and age McIntosh decided to use XT instead of XT32?" [paraphrased]

I'd point out that it's obviously because the Marantz AV7005 uses XT, but half of them wouldn't even understand why I was bringing up a competitor's unit that had "nothing to do with the conversation", and the other half (who would understand what I meant) would be infuriated that I would even suggest that the two were largely the same design, barring a few modifications, so I don't think I'll bother.

I can hear it now, "Oh, but those mere 'modifications' (as you put it) make a world of difference to the music's texture and fluidity...."

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Keep your sighted listening evaluations and regurgitation of your favorite, audiophile, "golden-eared" gurus' expert analyses to yourselves, folks. I'm only interested in science.
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On a side note, I see from a Google search, for another extra grand, $7000, there's also a blue gunk and tinfoil version. Oh brother. [Not to imply McIntosh, a company I respect, resembles those con artists even remotely in any shape or form. I just thought to point it out, that's all.]

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there is no concept of "accounting for taste". We don't "pick" the level of bass any more than we get to pick the ending of a play. High fidelity is an unbiased, neutral, exact copy (or "reproduction") of the original source's tonal balance, timing, dynamics, etc..

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From photographs of their interiors, the two pre/pros are quite different internally. For example, the Macintosh uses a circuit board with sockets to interconnect its signal processing boards, which are all the same depth. In contrast, the Marantz uses flat cables to interconnect boards of different sizes. A circuit board with sockets can provide much better control over signal transmission characteristics than can free-floating cables. While they seem to use some of the same chipsets as the other DM Holding companies (the DSP used for Audyssey, the Airplay decoder, the HDMI switch, etc), the circuit board designs are different.

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