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I noticed that, too, and it is a minus. Do you have experience with that future and how good it is? I rarely use headphones, so it's not deal breaker.

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How is a feature that you may rarely use a minus? The perfect AVR doesn't exist and they all have their shortcomings.


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CBdicX,

I appreciate your thoughts. I'm actually looking at the Denon AVR-4311CI or the Yamaha RX-A3000. I like the possibility of 11.2 channels. I considered the Onkyo's, but I can't get pass how hot they get. I've owned Denon and presently have a Marantz SR7002. After several hours of extensive use the Marantz is warm, but I recently looked at an Onkyo TX-NR1007 and it was hot enough to burn. This may not be a real world issue, but this type of heat can't be good for the internals in my opinion and a current owner of a TX-NR3008 has confirmed that the heat still exists. Are the Integra's better when it comes to heat?


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As the Integra's are basicly the same setup as Onkyo, i think the heat will be the same.
If you compare the 7005 to the Onkyo 3008 or Integra 70.2, the 7005 has about 700 Watt and the Onkyo/Integra (can) use 1060 Watt
They both use 2 Independent Power Supply (one for sound and one for video) and the 80.2 has 4 !!..........
I use some computer fans on top of the Onkyo i had and that gave ne an internal temp of 26 to 28 C.
Without fans this goes up to 36 to 38 C.
Also the Onkyo/Integra's have 2 internal fans that will start working when the temp becomes to high but this will start to work above 65 C.
So even the units get hot to the feel, they are will within save temps.
And the most heat is produced by the HDMI board, not the audio section.
The HDMI board is on the back of the case so if you would put 2 or 3x 12cm fans at the back the unit will last for years and years (if you want.... )

I do not think the heat is an issue as Onkyo never changed any thing inside to get the heat down...............
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Please look at these two video's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOKLoxg0cr0
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I think a "flagship" should, and must, look like the first, not the second.
The menu's of Onkyo and Integra even look better then the fancy Denon......

I would be ok with either GUI as long as it allowed me to do what I needed to do. Pretty GUI means nothing if its not functional. GUIs only need to be functional and aesthetics wouldn't be factored into any of my buying decisions, but we all have different buying criterias.


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CBdicX,

I appreciate your thoughts. I'm actually looking at the Denon AVR-4311CI or the Yamaha RX-A3000. I like the possibility of 11.2 channels. I considered the Onkyo's, but I can't get pass how hot they get. I've owned Denon and presently have a Marantz SR7002. After several hours of extensive use the Marantz is warm, but I recently looked at an Onkyo TX-NR1007 and it was hot enough to burn. This may not be a real world issue, but this type of heat can't be good for the internals in my opinion and a current owner of a TX-NR3008 has confirmed that the heat still exists. Are the Integra's better when it comes to heat?


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I have to disagree with that one. I have the 1007 and it does get warm, but not "hot" to the touch. Maybe his is faulty? or maybe it's cause i'm using an external amp but as I understand it the amps don't turn off in the Onkyo.
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I have to disagree with that one. I have the 1007 and it does get warm, but not "hot" to the touch. Maybe his is faulty? or maybe it's cause i'm using an external amp but as I understand it the amps don't turn off in the Onkyo.

I never seen more then 42 C for internal temp on a hard working 3007, this without fans.
Think that can be felt as hot............
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unclemat,

How is a feature that you may rarely use a minus? The perfect AVR doesn't exist and they all have their shortcomings.


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Minus for 4311ci... plus for SR7005.
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What I'm waiting for is a receiver (reasonably priced) that can do 11.2
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Now that I looked at the pics of the internals of SR7005 and 3311ci it really looks like Marantz is really near clone of 3311ci. The only differences are analog 7.1 inputs (but then 3311ci has them in other markets than the US) and probably Marantz's pre/amplifier uses Marantz specific HDAM parts. Also Marantz has Dolby Headphone while Denon doesn't.

Unless the HDAM stuff makes SR7005 sound vastly superior to 4311ci, the big 9.1 brother to 3311ci, then SR7005 is pretty poor buy.

Too bad, because it looks really pretty, much nicer than 4311ci...
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CBdicX,

I appreciate your thoughts. I'm actually looking at the Denon AVR-4311CI or the Yamaha RX-A3000. I like the possibility of 11.2 channels. I considered the Onkyo's, but I can't get pass how hot they get. I've owned Denon and presently have a Marantz SR7002. After several hours of extensive use the Marantz is warm, but I recently looked at an Onkyo TX-NR1007 and it was hot enough to burn. This may not be a real world issue, but this type of heat can't be good for the internals in my opinion and a current owner of a TX-NR3008 has confirmed that the heat still exists. Are the Integra's better when it comes to heat?


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I have to disagree with that one. I have the 1007 and it does get warm, but not "hot" to the touch. Maybe his is faulty? or maybe it's cause i'm using an external amp but as I understand it the amps don't turn off in the Onkyo.

Pure-Evil,

What do you mean you have to disagree with that one? You may have a higher tolerance for heat than I or maybe your setup takes some of the load off the AVR. However, I stand by my comment that the unit I touched was hot enough to burn. This is not a new phenomenon with Onkyo's and it has been expressed by more than one Onkyo owner. There have been many postings on various threads on how hot the Onkyo's get and how owners are adding external fans to help dissipate the heat.


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I have to disagree with that one. I have the 1007 and it does get warm, but not "hot" to the touch. Maybe his is faulty? or maybe it's cause i'm using an external amp but as I understand it the amps don't turn off in the Onkyo.

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I never seen more then 42 C for internal temp on a hard working 3007, this without fans.
Think that can be felt as hot............

CBdicX,

Thanks for posting the internal temperature.

I don't know what the tolerances are for the internal temperature of specific components, but 42° Celsius equals 107.6° Fahrenheit. Last I checked I'm pretty sure 107.6° Fahrenheit is hot enough to burn.


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If you compare the 7005 to the Onkyo 3008 or Integra 70.2, the 7005 has about 700 Watt and the Onkyo/Integra (can) use 1060 Watt

Just silly. the onkyo/integra will never reach 1060 watts without putting out major distortion. those are specs to take with a grain of salt. when 5 channels driven i suspect that number falls down quite a bit and seven channels driven, forget it. I own an onkyo and have listened to marantz before. forget the listed specs, the marantz that i demoed produced more real power than the given onkyo by quite a bit. i didn't really enjoy my onkyo until i added my XPA-5 200 watts/channel all channels driven. even then i realized that my onkyo was the weak link in my setup.
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Detailed review with video.
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+ Cultivated sound character with accurate, detailed reproduction
+ Good stereo performance
+ Equipment includes HDMI 1.4a, streaming client
+ Handy remote control
+ And total solid finish
+ Impressive appearance

- OSD rather plain and also held in English only
- Audyssey implementation will allow settings / info missing several
- The Bluetooth module RX101 was the SR-6004 also contain - the SR-7005, it costs 129 euros extr

So far I am happy with mine but this is certainly a mass market receiver and not a "flagship" by any means. Denon AVR-5308CI is a "flagship", this is not and the price reflects it.
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So far I am happy with mine but this is certainly a mass market receiver and not a "flagship" by any means. Denon AVR-5308CI is a "flagship", this is not and the price reflects it.

Have you had any problems with the Audyssey calibration?

Is it possible to connect one physical HDMI input to more than one logical input?
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Is it possible to connect one physical HDMI input to more than one logical input?

I am not sure about it, but like SR5005, you can easily switch (via A/D button on the remote) between different *audio* inputs (hdmi/digital/analog/7.1 multi) associated with the logical input. I suppose that's what you're looking for by asking your question.

I like this a lot and I don't see sadly this capability in 4311ci.
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I am not sure about it, but like SR5005, you can easily switch (via A/D button on the remote) between different *audio* inputs (hdmi/digital/analog/7.1 multi) associated with the logical input. I suppose that's what you're looking for by asking your question.

I like this a lot and I don't see sadly this capability in 4311ci.

Having the capability on the remote to switch between HDMI, MCH analog, analog (2CH) and digital audio inputs is a nice option. I use the AUDIO SEL function of my Onkyo 886 quite often. I use both HDMI and MCH analog inputs of the 886 for my Oppo 83SE.

If I am watching a DVD/BR I use HDMI and for SACD/DVD-1 I use the MCH analog input. Using my Harmony 688 I have the AUDIO SEL button programmed so with one touch I can toogle between the inputs. This enables one to have two or more different audio inputs for one HDMI input.

I just quickly looked at the 4311 manual and I did not see any reference as to whether there is a dedicated button on the remote to switch audio inputs on the fly. I did see reference to an EXT. IN function but I did not see it on the remote. It has been awhile since I had a Denon AVR and I forgot how confusing their manuals are.

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^ Exactly. I almost decided to go with 4431ci over SR7005, but it would be disappointing to loose such a basic but useful feature.

It really appears there is no way to do it on Denon without digging into setup menus. LAME.
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I just quickly looked at the 4311 manual and I did not see any reference as to whether there is a dedicated button on the remote to switch audio inputs on the fly. I did see reference to an EXT. IN function but I did not see it on the remote. It has been awhile since I had a Denon AVR and I forgot how confusing their manuals are.

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^ Exactly. I almost decided to go with 4431ci over SR7005, but it would be disappointing to loose such a basic but useful feature.

It really appears there is no way to do it on Denon without digging into setup menus. LAME.

I don't see it on the Denon AVR-4311CI remote either. It would be a shame, since I have an old Denon AVR-3802 in another room which has this functionality on the remote. Wouldn't be a reason for me personally not to purchase, but I do understand why you like this as I do also.


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I don't see it on the Denon AVR-4311CI remote either. It would be a shame, since I have an old Denon AVR-3802 in another room which has this functionality on the remote. Wouldn't be a reason for me personally not to purchase, but I do understand why you like this as I do also.


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I have the 3802 as well sitting in its box down in the cellar. What a great receiver one that would probably still be in my rack if I hadn't joined AVS. I broke it out a few times between prepros and it still sounds great. IIRC there is an EXT IN button on the 3802's remote.

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Have you had any problems with the Audyssey calibration?

Is it possible to connect one physical HDMI input to more than one logical input?

I had no problems with Audyssey.
With MCACC I had to move speakers around because I kept getting "out of phase" error.

Overall I like the sound more than the two pioneers I had before (well, I still have them, just in storage ) , and one of them is/was a Pioneer Elite 59TXi which was supposedly a true "flagship" receiver at that time. There are just so many variables involved with speakers and room acoustics and your own ears that the only way to find out whether you like something is to try it out at home.

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Have you had any problems with the Audyssey calibration?

Is it possible to connect one physical HDMI input to more than one logical input?

I had no problems with Audyssey.
With MCACC I had to move speakers around because I kept getting "out of phase" error.

Overall I like the sound more than the two pioneers I had before (well, I still have them, just in storage ) , and one of them is/was a Pioneer Elite 59TXi which was supposedly a true "flagship" receiver at that time. There are just so many variables involved with speakers and room acoustics and your own ears that the only way to find out whether you like something is to try it out at home.

Re: HDMI input - I will check, give me a few days, send me a PM to remind me if you still need the info within 1 week.
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I have the 3802 as well sitting in its box down in the cellar. What a great receiver one that would probably still be in my rack if I hadn't joined AVS. I broke it out a few times between prepros and it still sounds great. IIRC there is an EXT IN button on the 3802's remote.

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There is an EXT IN button on the 3802's remote into to a button for ANALOG. There are also buttons for all the Surround formats (Dolby, DTS, 5Ch, 7CH, 6.1, 7.1, Direct and Stereo). Since, I am also giving heavy consideration to the Denon AVR-4311CI also it is quite possible that I may be able to program some of these buttons into my Harmony according to "batpig". It really is a nice feature that should be in all remotes in this price range.


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Hi all - long time lurker, first time post...

I'm considering the SR7005 for network and multizone capabilities vs a 3-zone Sonos setup and non-networked receiver (ie, the SR5005 or 6005). Anyone have any experience with the network functionality of the SR7005? How is it for streaming local music files and online services like Pandora, etc? Does anyone know if the Marantz iPhone app works yet?

Also, looking at the SR7005 manual, it looks like you can only power either zone 2 or zone 3 (but not both). The manual tells you to wire zones 2 or 3 to the "Surr Back/Amp Assign" speaker terminals and specify one of them in the "Amp Assign" menu. Bi-amping the front speakers also uses the same "Surr Back/Amp Assign" terminals, so apparently you can only do one of the three options (bi-amp, power zone 2, or power zone 3). Is that correct? I'm new to multizone receivers, so I wasn't sure how this would work.

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That sounds right.

If you have enough external amplification, you can probably have all your zones active.
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I had no problems with Audyssey.
With MCACC I had to move speakers around because I kept getting "out of phase" error.

Overall I like the sound more than the two pioneers I had before (well, I still have them, just in storage ) , and one of them is/was a Pioneer Elite 59TXi which was supposedly a true "flagship" receiver at that time. There are just so many variables involved with speakers and room acoustics and your own ears that the only way to find out whether you like something is to try it out at home.

Re: HDMI input - I will check, give me a few days, send me a PM to remind me if you still need the info within 1 week.

I'm impressed you are saying the SQ is better than the 59TXi - that is praise indeed, I've tried a few modern day <2k receivers and none were a patch of the 59Txi for SQ or movie dynamics
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SR7005 sucks big time!!! And the customer support is the worst EVER.
I have a lot of the problems mentioned here. But biggest problem: My Marantz stereo amplifier which is integrated into my surround system responds to the remote as well and the other way around. This makes watching a movie impossible. I turn up the volume on my surround receiver and the volume on the stereo amplifier goes up, too. So the front left and right channels get MUCH louder. I got the worst of solutions from Marantz.
It is not possible to change remote codes or whatever.
Also I cannot connect my HTPC with Auzentech Home Theater HD card propably. High definition audio (DTS-master and Dolby True HD) does not get recognized.
So it may be a HDCP issue.
Cannot setup the wireless network connection as well.
I hate this receiver...
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but how does it sound?
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I'll be receiving this receiver in a couple days.

In short, I'm a newbie setting up my first high-end home theater with the Definitive Mythos ST speaker system. First went with a Pioneer Elite SC-37, and it's just not working out. For one, it's defective (none of the preouts work), and I'm just not happy with the sound quality (possibly another issue related to the defect; possibly a calibration issue I can't seem to solve despite running MCACC at least 5 or 6 times now); sound pretty great for music, but voices are way too shrill.

I unfortunately purchased the Pioneer from a gray marketer (didn't realize it at the time...I'm new to the whole authorized-dealer-only thing) and they're very unresponsive in regards to an RMA, etc., so I decided to try something else in the meantime and try to get a refund on the Pioneer (which may be a ton of trouble...).

At any rate, after talking to Definitive, they had high praise for Marantz receivers paired with their speakers and said I'd be happy if I wanted a warmer/smoother sound, so I decided to give this one a shot as it looks like it's right along the lines technologically of the Pioneer.

I was smarter about it this time and went with a mainstream retailer (Crutchfield) with a no-questions-asked 60 day return policy if I end up not liking it.

I'll post my thoughts when it arrives.

Hoping it gets here Thursday. =)
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I had a Denon AVC-A11XV before and I like the Marantz better!! but too many things that don't work and I now have one pair of rear speakers that are mounted on the wall that I cannot use! the Marantz only has the option to use more speakers in the front
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