Originally Posted by Eldiablos
And because a lighter receiver is ALWAYS better. They are just giving you state of the art equipment.
I don't think we Said that. On the camp that defends all things Denon either. My point is that people want simple answers to complex equipment. more weight is ALWAYS better, a 2 cent more expensive part MUST be better. This kind of thought process is ridiculous. it's pathetic and stupid. No one even has this thing yet and arguments gravitate to lunatic, silly junk like lbs and whatever. Doesn't anyone on these tech blogs read about psychology? We have classic anchoring, delusional analysis, and a whole host of other oddness.
I do believe the compromise on amps does not work for my B&W 803s. They drop down to 3.2 ohms and require some mighty knarly power to play great at reference. The teeny, weeny weight Bel Canto's I mentioned are known to be a bit light for mid bass. thus, I have external crazy heavy mono blocks for my fronts. Emotiva makes some old school brick class A/B amps I like. I even enjoy the retro 80s lights of the dang things..... But, I keep harping on this 8 lbs on a mid price receiver don't mean squat. The Emo's have the power in the mid range I crave. the Denon is a bit muted and somehow subjectively slower to respond.
Fixation on weight is just nuts. I do know that the Onkyo's. Which are fine but I have bias, run hot. heat usually means inefficiency in power, processing or whatever. An electrical engineer would tell you to dissipate this heat through heat sinks, ventilation or a combination of both. Since the O's run hot, are they better, worse, or maybe, just maybe designed differently. They require more weight to dissipate heat and, yes, from what I know represent slightly higher and beefier amp sections. Lots of debate here but it could be conceded in previous amp sections.
In the end we evaluate based on performance, features, and good lord, dare I say it...... Sound and Video functionality. I, for one, don' t hold up my equipment, while I watch a movie. my receiver is not a barbell weight.
I'll say it again.............. Weight is not a direct correlation to quality. If so, the quite sweet (but somewhat technology dated) Pioneer equipment is all junk..... The stuff just doesn't get all that hot and weighs less per watt RMS.