Originally Posted by counsil
I guess its all in the eyes of the beholder, but I actually like the look of my 3808 and 4311.
I do not like the look of the Onkyos at all.
+1 and then some.
The 4311 looks like a Denon family Receiver. Previously someone spoke of a simple LCD panel and a cheesy hidden button system behind the gate. These things are commonplace with Denon from the flagships all the way down to the near lowest receiver. I guess, I'd say, if you don't like this look, don't buy the dang thing. I personally like the Front Panel as it actually tells me worthwhile information. You get a schematic of what's coming in signal and a what's coming out signal. I like it. The knobs are, er well, knobs. The front panel looks good in my rack (well the 4810 and 3311 do). Really, I use a remote to control my system but, as you can see, from Previous posts, I have opinions about front panels. I really dislike Onkyo's. They look just horrible to me. Hate the dots....
Now, I have fond memories of my first Pioneer LD Player. Love the look and all the orange lights. Fast forward to today, Pioneers still look nice to me, my bias, my bad. But, Pioneer doesn't have the feature set, people either love or hate Ice-D amps, and really, they haven't adopted much of the Audyssey systems. So.... All of the Denon "quality haters" I ask this. Are your statements based on a preference of one look over another or a real noticeable quality difference? Do you see gaps in the sheet metal housing? Dead pixels? A loose knob? Off center button? Bad rear panel RCA connect? I am betting that the answer to every question is no......
What I'd probably learn over a beer is the Pioneer guy likes the color Orange, has no kids (thus the joy of piano gloss black fronts)' and might enjoy the more industrial.... Less finished (oops my bias) ugo-behemoths from Onkyos.
If ya'all have subjective quality comments, just say..... Hey I like blah,blah,blah,blah.... Feature because I was 13 and my dad introduced me to orange lighted equipment and we shared a cocoa and great dad time.
If you have quality issues, quantify them. Don't talk about a front glass panel. Oh, hell, D&M's got that covered to... Buy a McIntosh. Which I also find ugly.