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Yes, support for Front Wide has been dropped industry wide with 2016 models (not just Denon/Marantz).
I thought about it, but after seeing a number of posts from people who felt it muddied up the dialogue and sound among the front speakers, I decided against trying it.

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Yes, support for Front Wide has been dropped industry wide with 2016 models (not just Denon/Marantz). The industry is basically settling into the 7.1.4 format as the gold standard for immersive audio moving forward.

If you love your wides and want to keep them, then go for a prior year model (X6200W or X7200WA).
I am X7200WA. I REALLY believe most do not set then up correctly. I have experimented over the years and just finally have the perfect. Moving them 5 degrees makes a huge difference. You have to get those wides at 60 degreees and fronts at 30 degreess. I like my heights at 38-40 degrees NOT 45 degrees.
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Most folks don't have a wide enough room to bother with front wides so it's a bit pointless. I tried them I my previous house and liked them but my current house isn't suitable for then.

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Most folks don't have a wide enough room to bother with front wides so it's a bit pointless. I tried them I my previous house and liked them but my current house isn't suitable for then.
Totally true, I built my room for it, my room is 23'W X 37'L and my wides are still on the side walls. I think most set they're wides way to close to fronts because room is not wide enough. My fronts are 6ft from center and wides are 6ft from fronts. Once you separate those wides from fronts it brings it to life. Also your room has to be treated with this many speakers. I have 30 panels in my room and wall to ceiling bass traps ect
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Width and Height channels have been pretty much rendered obsolete by Atmos. That said, I tried them both and after 2 days, got rid of the extra speakers. To me, it was a gimmick (at best).
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Width and Height channels have been pretty much rendered obsolete by Atmos. That said, I tried them both and after 2 days, got rid of the extra speakers. To me, it was a gimmick (at best).
if wides and heights, are set up correctly atmos will have hard time beating them. If set up in incorrectly atmos will kill them. Also with atmos a treated room is not needed as much.

Only way I would do atoms would be with at least 10 speakers on ceiling, my buddy has a 5.1.4 and my 9.2 system kills it. There are so many variables though.

I like the option on the X7200WA receiver that you can add a second set of surrounds for the 2nd row of seating.

I honestly think if I went with another mode it would be something from DTS, maybe NEO X.

I have never been a fan of Dolby, didn't like PL, DD...hate Dolby volume im receivers. Only thing Dolby I will consider is Atmos
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FWIW, I'm a happy 7.1 guy with my Emotiva XMC-1. My trusty Denon is now running a 2.0 setup.
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After 6 happy years with my Denon 4311 i have upgrade to a Marantz 7010. I would like to use my 4311 to power the Front and Center channels. Do i connect them to Ext.In and set the 4311 in Pure Direct mode?


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OK, so the LG 65B6P has arrived and replaced my old Panny plasma. Picture is awesome but as I have some ARC questions. THe old Panasonic didn't support ARC but did support HD<I Control. SO when I turned on the TV the 4311 turned on and was tuned to the DVR which was also the standby source. Now the 4311 turns on but tunes back to the TV. I have to tune the 4311 back to the DVR. Just for grins I moved the HDMI cable on the TV to the non ARC port and the 4311 actions were the same except the blue ray player now powers on when the TV does. Is there any combo of settings which will power on the 4311 in sync with the TV and leave the 4311 on it's standby source. Or am I stuck with a power on of the TV and then going to the 4311 remote to select the proper input?


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After 6 happy years with my Denon 4311 i have upgrade to a Marantz 7010. I would like to use my 4311 to power the Front and Center channels. Do i connect them to Ext.In and set the 4311 in Pure Direct mode?
You actually don't even need to worry about "Pure Direct" mode because the EXT IN mode bypasses ALL digital processing. I would just zero out the speaker volumes/distances on the 4311 and then set it to 0.0dB master volume and then never touch it.

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Thanks for your advice Batpig! Really helpful.


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