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I can't see why they would start building that early (I would understand maybe June or July) with a release date of Sept or Oct 2010.

So what does a 0,1 serial number mean. That is one of the sequences that Alan warned about.
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So what does a 0,1 serial number mean. That is one of the sequences that Alan warned about.

The serial number 8th digital represent the year while the 9th digital represent the month.

So 0,1 (8th, 9th) would be Jan 2010.

You may want to ask alanl715 about the numbers.
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ADA + Trinnov is somewhere around $20,000 and while not a show stopper, requires and extra conversion from analog back to digital since the Trinov is a separate box.

Off topic, but I do not believe this is true... The Mach IV and IV-B both have Trinnov built in.


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The Mach IV and IV-B both have Trinnov built in.

Neither unit has Trinnov built in, only manual PEQ.

TEQ is only available as an outboard unit.

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my mistake - you're right - just flipped through the manual -


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So what does a 0,1 serial number mean. That is one of the sequences that Alan warned about.

It is only a warning if you encounter a problem...there is no Guaranteed failure just because the sn is in that range...please do not add fuel to the fire guys !
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I guess I will still consider the Integra

As Shaft would say - 'Damn Right' !
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It is only a warning if you encounter a problem...there is no Guaranteed failure just because the sn is in that range...please do not add fuel to the fire guys !

I do not even want to know whether my unit does or does not have the "bad" serial number. It's been working fine since late last year. If it fails, it fails. I'll just get it fixed. But, I am not going to jump ship on Integra. Nothing else appeals or seems worth it.
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Just found of that there is a slight possibility of AirPlay support on 80.3, but nothing firm.
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I do not even want to know whether my unit does or does not have the "bad" serial number. It's been working fine since late last year. If it fails, it fails. I'll just get it fixed. But, I am not going to jump ship on Integra. Nothing else appeals or seems worth it.

i'm with you..

although i did check my serial...
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The serial number 8th digital represent the year while the 9th digital represent the month.

So 0,1 (8th, 9th) would be Jan 2010.

You may want to ask alanl715 about the numbers.

Mine has "0" & a "Y" for the ninth, have had no problems.
I could understand "A-C" & the numbers, but "Y"?
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Mine has "0" & a "Y" for the ninth, have had no problems.
I could understand "A-C" & the numbers, but "Y"?
Carl

Hi Carl, "Y" is Nov.

1 - Jan
(2 - Feb to 8 - Aug)
9 - Sept
X - Oct
Y - Nov
Z - Dec
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if those units containing "0" in the 8th place are the ones affected, does that mean onkyo recognized a problem and made changes in later production runs?
or could it be later production runs simply haven't had enough time for the problem to show up...?
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If the statement regarding the problem serial number range is correct, it is units made in January, February and March of 2010 with the dodgy connector. And this would imply that units after that are OK.

Anybody else surmising that?

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If the statement regarding the problem serial number range is correct, it is units made in January, February and March of 2010 with the dodgy connector. And this would imply that units after that are OK.

Anybody else surmising that?

Jeff

That is what alan's suggested serial numbers with problems would say.

Hard to believe they were building these units in Jan 2010.
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If the statement regarding the problem serial number range is correct, it is units made in January, February and March of 2010 with the dodgy connector. And this would imply that units after that are OK.

Anybody else surmising that?

Jeff

Yes, that seems to fit the pattern of complaints here, too. There was nothing at first, then a torrent as of about a month or two ago. Hopefully, this will all be behind us in another few weeks. Hopefully, all the affected owners will also be satisfied and at peace with Onkyo/Integra.
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That is what alan's suggested serial numbers with problems would say.

Hard to believe they were building these units in Jan 2010.

Has anyone tipped up with"01?" For that matter, do the problem units in fact fall into the 01, 02 and 03 range?


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No, they're all over the map. If you check the failure thread, you'll see everything from January 2010 to January 2011. My 5508 is a September 2010 unit and it's definitely in the problem group.

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No, they're all over the map. If you check the failure thread, you'll see everything from January 2010 to January 2011. My 5508 is a September 2010 unit and it's definitely in the problem group.

Hi Nathan_R, which member in that thread has a unit with 0,1 (2010, Jan)?
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My mistake. I saw post where the dealer(?) said they were all 01, 02, and 03 units and reposted that piece of incorrect info. In checking the three threads, it looks like August 2010 was the earliest reported so far.

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Hi All

I am a long time reader first time poster. I have just upgraded my 10 year old Denon receiver with an 80.2. Very happy with the sound but have a few "nooby" questions in regards to Audyssey. I am running the following:

3 x M&K S150 THX Fronts
4 x M&K SS150 THX Rears
1 x M&K V1250 THX Sub

I mainly use the system to watch movies, and usually watch BD in THX Ultra 2 Cinema mode, I rarely listen to music. When running the Audyssey calibration the sub reads at 77DB from the listening position. At the back of the sub, I have a switch with 2 options, THX and Variable. I assume I need to switch to variable to achieve 75DB? When I finish the calibration I notice that my speaker crossover settings are at 100, not 80(THX). I know my speakers are getting old and possible the can't handle a crossover at 80 but I want to check to make sure it is not something else I am doing wrong to give me incorrect settings. On a positive the distances are perfect after calibration, I manually measured every speaker and the sub myself to see if they were accurate but the levels on the speakers and the sub are well down, around 58-60 from the No 1 listening position. I only calibrated with 3 positions because these 3 positions are the only positions we watch movies from. Considering my setup am I better enabling "Pressure THX settings which I believe disables the Audyssey EQ in THX listening modes?

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Anthony - you might have better luck in the Audyssey thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421


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Hi All

I am a long time reader first time poster. I have just upgraded my 10 year old Denon receiver with an 80.2. Very happy with the sound but have a few "nooby" questions in regards to Audyssey. I am running the following:

3 x M&K S150 THX Fronts
4 x M&K SS150 THX Rears
1 x M&K V1250 THX Sub

I mainly use the system to watch movies, and usually watch BD in THX Ultra 2 Cinema mode, I rarely listen to music. When running the Audyssey calibration the sub reads at 77DB from the listening position. At the back of the sub, I have a switch with 2 options, THX and Variable. I assume I need to switch to variable to achieve 75DB? When I finish the calibration I notice that my speaker crossover settings are at 100, not 80(THX). I know my speakers are getting old and possible the can't handle a crossover at 80 but I want to check to make sure it is not something else I am doing wrong to give me incorrect settings. On a positive the distances are perfect after calibration, I manually measured every speaker and the sub myself to see if they were accurate but the levels on the speakers and the sub are well down, around 58-60 from the No 1 listening position. I only calibrated with 3 positions because these 3 positions are the only positions we watch movies from. Considering my setup am I better enabling "Pressure THX settings which I believe disables the Audyssey EQ in THX listening modes?

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1. The Audyssey settings are in-room measurements and more reliable than specs if you did it right.
2. The more measurements within the listening area, the better.
3. I would never disable Audyssey for THX.
4. And, yes, consult the "official" thread for general set-up guidance.

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Hi All

I am a long time reader first time poster. I have just upgraded my 10 year old Denon receiver with an 80.2. Very happy with the sound but have a few "nooby" questions in regards to Audyssey. I am running the following:

3 x M&K S150 THX Fronts
4 x M&K SS150 THX Rears
1 x M&K V1250 THX Sub

I mainly use the system to watch movies, and usually watch BD in THX Ultra 2 Cinema mode, I rarely listen to music. When running the Audyssey calibration the sub reads at 77DB from the listening position. At the back of the sub, I have a switch with 2 options, THX and Variable. I assume I need to switch to variable to achieve 75DB? When I finish the calibration I notice that my speaker crossover settings are at 100, not 80(THX). I know my speakers are getting old and possible the can't handle a crossover at 80 but I want to check to make sure it is not something else I am doing wrong to give me incorrect settings. On a positive the distances are perfect after calibration, I manually measured every speaker and the sub myself to see if they were accurate but the levels on the speakers and the sub are well down, around 58-60 from the No 1 listening position. I only calibrated with 3 positions because these 3 positions are the only positions we watch movies from. Considering my setup am I better enabling "Pressure THX settings which I believe disables the Audyssey EQ in THX listening modes?

Thanks

Anthony

Anthony - do check out the Audyssey thread, particularly the Setup Guide linked to in the first page of that thread.

Suggestions -

- Use all 8 calibrations positions even with just 3 seats. Do a minimum of 3 more positions 2 ft. in front of the seat backs, then perhaps two over the chair arms to the sides.

- That might give an improved sub x-over frequency for your speakers. If not, experiment with other speaker positions, recalibrating each time. Do not override Audyssey's settings with a lower x-over.

- Yes, you should use the sub's variable input. The 80.2 will control the X-over in THX modes.

I am personally not a fan of THX with hi rez Blu-ray. I think it was developed and intended for lossy DVD audio. But, it's your choice. You might try the plain non-THX modes.

I do not know what "pressure THX" is, but I think Audyssey is still active w. THX unless you turn it off manually. There is a display on the 80.2 front panel whenever Audyssey is on.
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Just read this on-line:

"The Integra is also just a suggestion. If one wanted to go with a higher end solution go for it, but that will definitely support any video signal the end user will want. Also if there is a plan to go with a 4K screen, Integra will most likely be releasing the DHC-80.3 which will offer 4K scaling (like the rest of the Onkyo/Integra 2011 product line)."

Anyone know about release date for 80.3? Was ready to purchase 80.2 when I saw this.
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Just read this on-line:

"The Integra is also just a suggestion. If one wanted to go with a higher end solution go for it, but that will definitely support any video signal the end user will want. Also if there is a plan to go with a 4K screen, Integra will most likely be releasing the DHC-80.3 which will offer 4K scaling (like the rest of the Onkyo/Integra 2011 product line)."

Anyone know about release date for 80.3? Was ready to purchase 80.2 when I saw this.

from where did u copy this ?
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Hi Guys

I thank you all for your reply's.
Fitz, I meant Preserve THX settings, sorry for the confusion. I did have a look through the Audyssey thread, and I have had some time to play around with the THX settings and do agree that Audyssey with EQ on sounds better in my room and this is only with 3 listening positions calibrated. I will recalibrate and try the addition listening positions when I get a chance. The only issue I seem to have now is that my Sub is out of control. I have heard people complain that they don't have enough Bass but I have too much and I think it may have something to do with the LPF on my sub. I have another switch on the back of my sub with the options LPF or THX. When I calibrated I had THX selected and I have my LPF setting on the processor set to 120. This also could be due to the fact that I did not have the sub at 75 during calibration so I will try that first.

On a side note I My TV and BD are HDMI 1.4 compatible and I have 1.4 cables as well. ARC (Audio Return Channel) works perfectly I can't seem to find any info about running ethernet through the processor to my TV and BD player. Does anyone know if this is supported by the 80.2, I can't find anything in the settings menu of the 80.2 that refers to it? My understanding was that I would be able to do this?
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Just read this on-line:

"The Integra is also just a suggestion. If one wanted to go with a higher end solution go for it, but that will definitely support any video signal the end user will want. Also if there is a plan to go with a 4K screen, Integra will most likely be releasing the DHC-80.3 which will offer 4K scaling (like the rest of the Onkyo/Integra 2011 product line)."

Anyone know about release date for 80.3? Was ready to purchase 80.2 when I saw this.


I thought the 80.2 supported 4k scaling just not for 3D??
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I thought the 80.2 supported 4k scaling just not for 3D??
I don't think so. The future of 4K appears quite murky to me. I am not aware of a consumer display product that supports it. I can envision it for people with very large screens at some point, starting with very high priced front projectors. But, buyers at that level can easily afford external scalers to handle it, and they would not likely be "budget" Integra prepro buyers anyway, even if it is the first 4K prepro to market.

I think it will be quite some time before we see any movement toward widespread 4K flat screen or rear projectors, let alone native 4K players or movies in it.

So, I do not see it happening for awhile, and, frankly, I think it is way too soon to plan for it in or have it affect current purchase decisions. Hell, they have not even given us any releases in deep color, which was a "hot button", must have feature about 3 years ago. It has gone nowhere.
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I thank you all for your reply's.
Fitz, I meant Preserve THX settings, sorry for the confusion. I did have a look through the Audyssey thread, and I have had some time to play around with the THX settings and do agree that Audyssey with EQ on sounds better in my room and this is only with 3 listening positions calibrated. I will recalibrate and try the addition listening positions when I get a chance. The only issue I seem to have now is that my Sub is out of control. I have heard people complain that they don't have enough Bass but I have too much and I think it may have something to do with the LPF on my sub. I have another switch on the back of my sub with the options LPF or THX. When I calibrated I had THX selected and I have my LPF setting on the processor set to 120. This also could be due to the fact that I did not have the sub at 75 during calibration so I will try that first.

On a side note I My TV and BD are HDMI 1.4 compatible and I have 1.4 cables as well. ARC (Audio Return Channel) works perfectly I can't seem to find any info about running ethernet through the processor to my TV and BD player. Does anyone know if this is supported by the 80.2, I can't find anything in the settings menu of the 80.2 that refers to it? My understanding was that I would be able to do this?
I do not know your subwoofer, but I think you want the LPF setting, not the THX. I assume it has an LPF frequency control - turn it up all the way. Using the THX setting is probably imposing 80 Hz at the sub, regardless of what Audyssey has measured and regardless of settings in the 80.2.

Don't know about passing ethernet via HDMI. What would you use it for? Has anyone else used this on the 80.2?
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