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post #1 of 10 Old 09-15-2010, 04:52 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi All,

I am about to buy a 60 inch plasma LG60PK550 and I need a Home Theater less the blue ray as we have a PS3.

They have a HK AVR154 HTIB demo that usually goes for $700-800 (they tell me) and will give to me for $500.00.

My question : Is this a good HT unit for this price or are there other in this price range that are better?
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I think you can find a better AVR with more features for less than the $500 quoted

Look into an Onkyo SR308 or SR508, Denon 591 or 791, Pioneer 920 or 1020 or 1120, and Yamaha V567. Try www.vanns.com, www.jr.com, and of course www.amazon.com

for comparison: http://www.buy.com/prod/harman-avr15...208504377.html and http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-.../dp/B0016BN5CM I'm not sure I would trust the retailer you are dealing with---that unit never retailed for $700 - $800.

What speakers are you considering for your home theater setup ?

Just noticed your posting name, so I assume you are in Canada - US prices may not help much, but they will give you an idea of pricing (even with the Canadian mark-ups) and what to ask for.
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I think you can find a better AVR with more features for less than the $500 quoted

Look into an Onkyo SR308 or SR508, Denon 591 or 791, Pioneer 920 or 1020 or 1120, and Yamaha V567. Try www.vanns.com, www.jr.com, and of course www.amazon.com

for comparison: http://www.buy.com/prod/harman-avr15...208504377.html and http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-.../dp/B0016BN5CM I'm not sure I would trust the retailer you are dealing with---that unit never retailed for $700 - $800.

What speakers are you considering for your home theater setup ?

Just noticed your posting name, so I assume you are in Canada - US prices may not help much, but they will give you an idea of pricing (even with the Canadian mark-ups) and what to ask for.

The unit includes the speakers and all...here is the link of the package-

http://www.electronicsforless.ca/aud...kp4b5b2jon5d04
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the bundled speakers are equivelent to a $200 set shown here http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...mo-s-413-hcs-5

It is "B" stock (they say "demo") and the H/K AVR 154 does not process audio over the HDMI inputs - video only, you still have to connect the source to the receiver with a Toslink optical or digital audio coaxial cable to get Dolby 5.1 surround. It cannot use or decode any of the new lossless HD audio codecs available on blu-ray disks. Dolby or DTS digital 5.1 only.

from the 154 manual"
HDMI™ Inputs and Output: HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia
Interface) is a newer type of connection for transmitting digital audio
and video signals between devices. Although the AVR 154 is not capable
of processing HDMI signals, if your video display is HDMI-capable,
connect up to three HDMI sources here, and then connect the HDMI
Output to your video display for improved video performance. Disable
the HDMI audio function of your video display, and make a separate
digital audio connection from the source device to one of the AVR’s
coaxial or optical digital audio inputs to benefit from the AVR 154’s
multichannel audio processing.


ANY of the a/v receivers referenced in the prior post are "better" than this entry level, discontinued H/K receiver. Proceed with this dealer and offer at your own risk.
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the bundled speakers are equivelent to a $200 set shown here http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...mo-s-413-hcs-5

It is "B" stock (they say "demo") and the H/K AVR 154 does not process audio over the HDMI inputs - video only, you still have to connect the source to the receiver with a Toslink optical or digital audio coaxial cable to get Dolby 5.1 surround. It cannot use or decode any of the new lossless HD audio codecs available on blu-ray disks. Dolby or DTS digital 5.1 only.

from the 154 manual"
HDMI Inputs and Output: HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia
Interface) is a newer type of connection for transmitting digital audio
and video signals between devices. Although the AVR 154 is not capable
of processing HDMI signals, if your video display is HDMI-capable,
connect up to three HDMI sources here, and then connect the HDMI
Output to your video display for improved video performance. Disable
the HDMI audio function of your video display, and make a separate
digital audio connection from the source device to one of the AVR's
coaxial or optical digital audio inputs to benefit from the AVR 154's
multichannel audio processing.


ANY of the a/v receivers referenced in the prior post are "better" than this entry level, discontinued H/K receiver. Proceed with this dealer and offer at your own risk.

Thanks for your honesty.

What would you choose, if I was looking for something similar to that package for $500 but better bang for my buck?
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The Jamo s413 package and a Denon 1610 can be had for around $500. I would take that over the HK packaged system.

http://www.electronics-expo.com/make...AVR1610/1.html

s413
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

If you want tower speakers up front instead the S406 is the same price w/o a subwoofer.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

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How about a Denon 488? It's esensially the same as the Denon 589 that was packaged with HTIB speakers. Its refurbished but so is the 154 you've been considering. Get this Jamo 5.1 speaker set and you're under the price of that HTIB speaker mess - and it'll sound much better.

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I don't think the 488 does HDMI audio or DTS-HD and True HD decoding.

That's why I like the 1610. HD decoding plus a full version of Audyssey room calibration.

But yeah if you only want to spend $150 on a receiver that 488 XP would be hard to beat.

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Thanks for the recommendations. I looked at the speakers and don't have the space for the big speakers.

If possible, what would be best, I ran speaker wire before finishing basement to the ceiling side on both sides so I would need to speakers to hang at back, a subwoofer and speaker for the front of tv and the receiver.

Your expert advise appreciated.
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I don't think the 488 does HDMI audio or DTS-HD and True HD decoding.

That's why I like the 1610. HD decoding plus a full version of Audyssey room calibration.

But yeah if you only want to spend $150 on a receiver that 488 XP would be hard to beat.

With the speaker package he's looking at will he notice the difference between plain ole DD and DD-HD?

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