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post #181 of 295 Old 12-18-2010, 09:28 AM
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oRemote version 1.2.1 was submitted a few minutes ago. If/when it is approved, it will work on both iPad and iPhone/iPod Touch.

My beta testers can find it in the normal location.

That's good news! When my 807 gets back from repairs I will definitely be downloading this app.
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The iPhone update for oRemote was approved an is now on the App Store.
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The biggest issue now is what to do with pre-2010 AVRs. Or better yet, what to do with all of them.

I am not waiting for Onkyo to put in menu controls on the pre-2010 amps. I'm giving it a go myself. Here's a brief example of what I have been getting tonight with oRemote:
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2010-12-24 20:42:21.278 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$0] you're my best friend
2010-12-24 20:42:21.280 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$1] flash
2010-12-24 20:42:21.283 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$2] a kind of magic
2010-12-24 20:42:21.285 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$3] radio ga ga
2010-12-24 20:42:21.287 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$4] the miracle
2010-12-24 20:42:21.290 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$5] i want it all
2010-12-24 20:42:21.292 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$6] i want to break free
2010-12-24 20:42:21.294 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$7] innuendo
2010-12-24 20:42:21.297 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$8] it's a hard life
2010-12-24 20:42:21.299 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$9] under pressure
2010-12-24 20:42:21.302 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$A] breakthru
2010-12-24 20:42:21.304 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$B] who wants to live forever
2010-12-24 20:42:21.306 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$C] don't stop me now
2010-12-24 20:42:21.308 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$D] headlong
2010-12-24 20:42:21.311 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$E] i'm going slightly mad
2010-12-24 20:42:21.313 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$F] the show must go on
2010-12-24 20:42:21.316 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$10] the invisible man
2010-12-24 20:42:21.318 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$11] hammer to fall
2010-12-24 20:42:21.320 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$12] friends will be friends
2010-12-24 20:42:21.322 oRemote[6581:307]      [64$3$13] one vision
2010-12-24 20:42:21.325 oRemote[6581:307]    [64$2] Greatest Hits I
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2010-12-24 21:49:40.322 oRemote[6826:307] [1] ReadyNAS: ReadyNAS
2010-12-24 21:49:40.387 oRemote[6826:307]  [Browse Folders] Browse Folders
2010-12-24 21:49:40.421 oRemote[6826:307]  [Music] Music
2010-12-24 21:49:40.458 oRemote[6826:307]  [Pictures] Pictures
2010-12-24 21:49:40.492 oRemote[6826:307]  [Video] Video
2010-12-24 21:49:40.526 oRemote[6826:307] [2] HTPC: Robert:
My theory is, if the AVR can do it, why can't I? The AVR is a dumb device that gets it's menus from the network source. So I am just going to the same source for the information. When this is done, and if i can overcome the limitations and one nasty crashing bug in this library, it's DLNA source menus for everyone. At this point iPod and iRadio are still out of luck, but what the hell. I'm also looking into accessing the iTunes library in the iDevice, but I don't think that's allowed.

Now this looks promising, but I cannot guarantee this will work at all - but if I can get song data off of the local network, it opens up a whole new area to explore with this app.

Here's how the above data comes off of my 708. No reason why I can't map this to the menu of my HT-RC180 (or TX-NR807):
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Looking good! Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Now this looks promising, but I cannot guarantee this will work at all - but if I can get song data off of the local network, it opens up a whole new area to explore with this app.

Here's how the above data comes off of my 708. No reason why I can't map this to the menu of my HT-RC180 (or TX-NR807):

I have downloaded the app although I haven't gotten my 807 back yet. It this would be really cool for zone 2 and quick easy DJing on the back patio or firepit.
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Excellent effort Robert! Thanks from all of us... and Merry Christmas!

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Excellent effort Robert! Thanks from all of us... and Merry Christmas!

And the same to you and everyone else, too!
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Here's the first screenshot of the new playback method. I have managed to enable "PlayTo" functionality on oRemote. This is all preliminary but I managed to get MetaData and ResourceData from my ReadyNAS NV+ running a DLNA server and then command the AVR to play back a file on that server. All without wading through menus - or even having to rely on them. If the AVR is on NET mode, it automatically starts playing the file as shown in the screenshot below.

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2010-12-25 23:31:13.477 oRemote[9392:307] Using two-stage rotation animation. To use the smoother single-stage animation, this application must remove two-stage method implementations.
2010-12-25 23:31:13.683 oRemote[9392:307] Network Available
2010-12-25 23:31:13.701 oRemote[9392:307] uPnP Enabled!
2010-12-25 23:31:16.783 oRemote[9392:307] S[1] ReadyNAS: ReadyNAS
2010-12-25 23:31:16.786 oRemote[9392:307] S[2] HTPC: Robert:
2010-12-25 23:31:16.789 oRemote[9392:307] R[1] TX-NR708
2010-12-25 23:31:16.811 oRemote[9392:307] 
What Do You Do With A B.A. In English/It Sucks To Be Me
object.item.audioItem.musicTrack
Original Broadway Cast
2003-01-01
Original Broadway Cast
Avenue Q
Soundtrack
2

2010-12-25 23:31:16.900 oRemote[9392:307] http://192.168.1.222:8200/MediaItems/190.mp3http://192.168.1.222:8200/MediaItems/30.mp3
2010-12-25 23:31:19.069 oRemote[9392:307] Command Playback
2010-12-25 23:31:19.077 oRemote[9392:307] R[2] HTPC2
2010-12-25 23:31:19.088 oRemote[9392:307] R[3] Home TV
2010-12-25 23:31:19.590 oRemote[9392:307] R[4] HT-RC180
2010-12-25 23:31:20.420 oRemote[9392:307] R[5] HTPC
2010-12-25 23:31:23.513 oRemote[9392:307] NETGEAR ReadyNAS NV+ [ReadyNAS] 192.168.1.222 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:networkstoragedevice:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.520 oRemote[9392:307] NETGEAR ReadyNAS: ReadyNAS 192.168.1.222 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.535 oRemote[9392:307] ONKYO HT-RC180 192.168.1.78 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.538 oRemote[9392:307] Microsoft Corporation HTPC 192.168.1.4 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.541 oRemote[9392:307] EPSON EPSONFFA00E 192.168.1.18 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:Printer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.555 oRemote[9392:307] ONKYO TX-NR708 192.168.1.77 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.558 oRemote[9392:307] Microsoft Corporation HTPC: Robert: 192.168.1.4 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.561 oRemote[9392:307] Westell Ultraline Series 3 Internet Gateway Device 192.168.1.1 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:InternetGatewayDevice:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.564 oRemote[9392:307] Microsoft Corporation HTPC2 192.168.1.111 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.567 oRemote[9392:307] Samsung Electronics Home TV 192.168.1.9 urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:1
2010-12-25 23:31:23.570 oRemote[9392:307] Samsung Electronics Home TV 192.168.1.9 urn:samsung.com:device:PersonalMessageReceiver:1
2010-12-25 23:31:28.637 oRemote[9392:307] hey, i have internets: all systems go

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Great app for the iPhone! Thank you rworne!
Definitely worth buying if you have an Onkyo, it worked well with my 3007, didn't really miss much those features that aren't supported by pre 08 models. Finally, an easy way to turn on/off the DynamicEQ without digging deep into the Onkyo's setup.
Initially the UI was a little confusing, but guess that's unavoidable when the app is so fully featured on a small screen.
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Rworne, could you possibly please make an app for the yamaha a3000 aventage if it's possible?
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Rworne, could you possibly please make an app for the yamaha a3000 aventage if it's possible?

The problem is that I need an AVR to help with development. Network-enabled AVRs are pretty expensive. If I were to do another, the next logical choice would be Denon, since their protocol works almost the same as Onkyo.
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Simply a fantasic App. Thank You!
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Simply a fantasic App. Thank You!

Thanks. It still needs improvement though.
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WoW!!!!!!!! this is what I have been waiting for Since i got my 3007 ..just great stuff rworne!!!!! WOW......
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WoW!!!!!!!! this is what I have been waiting for Since i got my 3007 ..just great stuff rworne!!!!! WOW......

It's getting there. oRemote is definitely doing PlayTo just like you can do with the AVR and a Windows box. I'm working on getting lists of the resources off of a DLNA service and present them in menus like oRemote does for other sources.

I have the "mode" in place for UPNP, and the menu controls are set. All that's left is the fetching of data and formatting it for the screen. Sounds simple, but it's not.
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The problem is that I need an AVR to help with development. Network-enabled AVRs are pretty expensive. If I were to do another, the next logical choice would be Denon, since their protocol works almost the same as Onkyo.

Could it help if I let you remote access my 3000? If it's even possible.
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Could it help if I let you remote access my 3000? If it's even possible.

It's possible, but not at this moment. Yamaha has a distinctly different protocol that may require rolling a separate version of oRemote. I'm busy now with the uPnP investigation, which has had both good and disappointing results.

See the following post...
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Onkyo and Remote Playback update:

So, I finally found out what can and can't be done with oRemote, menus and pre-2010 AVRs.

The good news is that there is likely a way to get menus working for local network sources like DLNA servers.

The bad news is Onkyo seems to not support certain features that will make life a lot easier for this developer.

Onkyo supports remote playback in the 2010 models. What they also support is volume control, muting, skip track (>>|), skip back (|<<), Play and Stop. They do not support playlist playback (.m3u) or XML playlist playback. In other words, give it a directory of 13 songs, and it will only play back the song you selected. That's it. Select another song and it will play that back, then sit and wait. etc. The built-in NET function works fine with playlists.

This can be worked out in due time by my having to maintain a list of directory items and managing playback myself.
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Well the simple act of having a "play to" function is pretty exciting stuff. Too bad it doesn't allow for a queue system or at the least a playlist. Can you set up a playlist using "play to" then skip or rewind tracks using oRemote?
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Hello, I figured I'd ask in this thread about iControlAV. I bought a Pioneer VSX-1325-K from Futureshop

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...c8fcd6c1a5en02

I can't get iControlAV to work with it. I also can't find any information about this receiver other than it is a clone of the VSX-33 Elite.

When I run the iControlAV app I keep getting the same error code:

Network Error
Please check your product
Connection status
AVR: ERROR
BDP: --
(Error Code : B57113)

I can control the receiver from the web control on my laptop.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.
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Well the simple act of having a "play to" function is pretty exciting stuff. Too bad it doesn't allow for a queue system or at the least a playlist. Can you set up a playlist using "play to" then skip or rewind tracks using oRemote?
It only does one track. I will have to build in a queue system in oRemote to playback multiple files. Different AVR's also have different levels of support for this, so an 807 will do this, but I have no idea if a 905 or a 906 will do it.
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oRemote's TX-NR905 and TX-NR906 compatibility issues have been resolved. Expect compatibility with these and similar models in the next update.

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Hey Robert,

Your app looks great.

I'm planning to purchase it for use with my iPhone 4 and my new NR708.

This may sound dumb but I couldn't find a definitive answer anywhere - Does the app work wirelessly on the iphone or does it need to be connected to the AVR via USB?

Thank you for clarifying.
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Hi again,

I assume the app does work over Wi-Fi since the iPad has no USB port. Just curious to know how easy it is to get things connected.

Also, is the iphone version designed for the retina display?

Thanks.
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Hi again,

I assume the app does work over Wi-Fi since the iPad has no USB port. Just curious to know how easy it is to get things connected.

Also, is the iphone version designed for the retina display?

Thanks.

You need your AVR connected to a network accessible via WiFi.

No retina display support, it frankly doesn't need it. Things are small enough as it is. It looks just fine on one of my test mules, a 4th gen iPod touch with a retina display.
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Hey robert. Haven't searched yet but thought I would ask. How did you get the source/protocol info from Onkyo?

Just curious how you got started down this road. Oh and Just bought the app and I'm loving it. I'm an A/V installer that pushes Onkyo so I'll be recommending your app all over Big D. Great Job.

I have a network attached NAS, so I'm looking forward to more DLNA features.

Thanks Again for a wonderfull app
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Hey robert. Haven't searched yet but thought I would ask. How did you get the source/protocol info from Onkyo?

Just curious how you got started down this road. Oh and Just bought the app and I'm loving it. I'm an A/V installer that pushes Onkyo so I'll be recommending your app all over Big D. Great Job.

I have a network attached NAS, so I'm looking forward to more DLNA features.

Thanks Again for a wonderfull app

Thank you. Since you are an installer, check out this feature coming to the next update:

http://oremote.oriole.net/oRemote/Se...onverters.html

Essentially this means with the purchase of a small box, any Onkyo/Integra AVR with a serial port is now compatible. Another interesting possiblity is these boxes allow for multiple connections to the same device.

I'm sitting here right now, with my iPad, and my wife's iPad, both running oRemote, both connected to a single AVR (TX-NR708).

Both apps are showing the same data and either app can control the AVR - and everything remains in sync. I also added another photo with two iPads and an iPod connected to a single AVR.
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I saw those pics today on FB. Awesome job. I've already been spreading the word!! The ability to control zones and their sources is worth the price of admisson!
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Is there a way to navigate through a dlna server to pick what music I want with the 807 or is that only available in the 08 line? I can get to the server and play the first available track through oRemote but I can't navigate at all.
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Is there a way to navigate through a dlna server to pick what music I want with the 807 or is that only available in the 08 line? I can get to the server and play the first available track through oRemote but I can't navigate at all.

If you read a few posts up, I posted some experiments I did regarding PlayTo and possible menus on the 807 and other model AVRs. It's certainly doable, and after I get this next update out, I'll be working on that next.

You will need to know that the functionality cannot be as nice as what the AVR does. Onkyo will not allow playback of playlists, only single files. So if you ever messed with the PlayTo function in Windows, that's about what it will do. Additionally, there's nothing you can do about iPod, Pandora or other menu based data.

I am looking into getting the iPod/iPad's music library to stream, but I am quite sure Apple will not like that.
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