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Does anybody know if the microphone cable is a regular mini usb-usb cable or if it is an Anthem proprietary one?

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No 3d passthrough

Hi,

I'm just trying 3d for the first time through my MRX 700. My Epson 5030 UB doesn't recognize the 3d signal when using the Anthem. It does, when going straight through the projector. I am on 50.25 firmware, which I believe is the latest and greatest.

Any ideas?

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ARC Results

Hi All
Here my ARC results: Can I do better


Room = 12x18


Speakers=Salk Songtowers (Ribbon Tweeter)
Center = Salk Songcenter (Not Ribbon)
Surrounds = M&K 550THX
Surround Backs =M&K 550THX


SPEAKER CONFIG
Front Left = +6
Center = +5
Front Right = +6
Surround Right = +9
Surround Left = +9
Aux Right = + 9
Aux Left = +9
Sub = - 9


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Turn the sub down a bit - perhaps.

[QUOTE=squid48072;31156665]Hi All
Here my ARC results: Can I do better


Room = 12x18


Speakers=Salk Songtowers (Ribbon Tweeter)
Center = Salk Songcenter (Not Ribbon)
Surrounds = M&K 550THX
Surround Backs =M&K 550THX


SPEAKER CONFIG
Front Left = +6
Center = +5
Front Right = +6
Surround Right = +9
Surround Left = +9
Aux Right = + 9
Aux Left = +9
Sub = - 9

I'm no expert, but you should probably turn down the volume on the sub down as the MRX is really correcting a lot by the looks of that -9. Also, everyone says you should shoot for a cutoff on the sub of 120. You're at 100, which isn't bad. I have started with it at 80, but by dragging my SVS Ultra 13 around the room, I can always seem to get it at 120.

Good luck
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Yes the gain on the back of your sub is too high. You want the MRX to set the sub between -3 and +3. Also I'm not sure what sub you have, but it's rolling off at around 50Hz. Make sure the crossover on the back of the sub is bypassed/off. If you can't turn the crossover off turn it up as high as it will go. That will make it so high that it has no effect. You only want to use the crossover in the MRX and it looks like your sub's crossover is overriding the MRX crossover and causing you to loose a lot of bass.

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Yes the gain on the back of your sub is too high. You want the MRX to set the sub between -3 and +3. Also I'm not sure what sub you have, but it's rolling off at around 50Hz. Make sure the crossover on the back of the sub is bypassed/off. If you can't turn the crossover off turn it up as high as it will go. That will make it so high that it has no effect. You only want to use the crossover in the MRX and it looks like your sub's crossover is overriding the MRX crossover and causing you to loose a lot of bass.


I have Paradigm PS-1000. I set the Sub Level at about 25% and the cut-off frequency set all the way to 150hz and the Phase alignment to zero.


What did I do wrong ??
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I have Paradigm PS-1000. I set the Sub Level at about 25% and the cut-off frequency set all the way to 150hz and the Phase alignment to zero.


What did I do wrong ??
25% on some subs is just a bit too high for the gain to get the AVR sub level between -3 and +3. The sub level on the back of the sub is not a level or a volume. It's a gain. You may need to lower it just a very, very small amount to get the AVR between -3 and +3. Yup you have the sub's cut off set up correctly. Looking at your target window ARC by default sets the sub HPF to Auto. Click the ADVANCED button and change the "Subwoofer High pass Order" from Auto to Flat and then re-calculate and see if the sub rolls off lower. If it's lower make sure to upload again. If I'm not mistaken the PS-1000 goes down to around 25Hz.

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25% on some subs is just a bit too high for the gain to get the AVR sub level between -3 and +3. The sub level on the back of the sub is not a level or a volume. It's a gain. You may need to lower it just a very, very small amount to get the AVR between -3 and +3. Yup you have the sub's cut off set up correctly. Looking at your target window ARC by default sets the sub HPF to Auto. Click the ADVANCED button and change the "Subwoofer High pass Order" from Auto to Flat and then re-calculate and see if the sub rolls off lower. If it's lower make sure to upload again. If I'm not mistaken the PS-1000 goes down to around 25Hz.
Sounds good I was thinking that Level Knob =Volume. I try to lower it and put High Pass Oder to Flat and see what I get .


My other question is why did it set my Surrounds to +9 that seems high to me.
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Sounds good I was thinking that Level Knob =Volume. I try to lower it and put High Pass Oder to Flat and see what I get .


My other question is why did it set my Surrounds to +9 that seems high to me.
Looking at the numbers it looks like your speakers are pretty far from where your MLP(main listening position) is where the mic was at. ARC is going to set all your speakers to 75dB so the farther the mic is from the speakers the more it has to increase each speakers level to get to 75dB. My theater is 13x24 and my surrounds are 8ft from the MLP and ARC sets mine to +1. It also depends on reflections a lot too.

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Considering an MRX700 for my new room, it's a basement so the sound is very hard to get right.

However, does anyone know if it will accept a 'up to' 2160p30 (2160p24 ideally) input? I know it's 1.4a HDMI so technically it should, but want to know if anyone's tried it. I wouldn't want to spend a load of money on a new AVR and be unable to use it once I upgrade to 4k.
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Considering an MRX700 for my new room, it's a basement so the sound is very hard to get right.

However, does anyone know if it will accept a 'up to' 2160p30 (2160p24 ideally) input? I know it's 1.4a HDMI so technically it should, but want to know if anyone's tried it. I wouldn't want to spend a load of money on a new AVR and be unable to use it once I upgrade to 4k.
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Hi,
I'm new in this forum and have some questions to the "experts" knowing the MRX series well.

I own an Anthem MRX 700 and amping my 7.1 HT setup with an Anthem P5 (you never have enough power ;-)) and the 2 back channels with the MRX 700.

Speakers are Klipsch Ref series,
Front RF 7 MK II,
Cent RC 64 MK II
Surr RB 81 MK II
Back RB 81 MK II
Sub SW 115.

Room is approx 6.30 x 5.10 meter (20,7 x 16,7 ft).

I use the system approx 80% for HT and only 20% for 2.1 music listening.

BD player is a modded Oppo 93 with BIG power supply (you never have enough power ;-) ) connected via WireWorld Starlight 6 to the MRX. Using an other WW cable to connect HDMI out to my JVC DLA X7 (modded, you ….)

Music playing using my MBP running iTunes with Audirvana Plus and outputting the USB signal via a HiFace USB/SPDIF converter (with separate power supply, you never have enough well filter power ;-) ) and BNC 75 ohm digi cable to the digi input of the MRX.
Running most times my big collection of redbook 16/44 material with Audirvana upsampling to 24/176 or 24/192.

Qs:

1. Is the DAC in the MRX 710 different and better than the one in the MRX 700 ?

2. Has the video processing and the pass-through in the MRX 710 improved?
(I tested a Yamaha A 3040 last week and despite the sound was different, but not better, …but the HDMI signal through the Yamaha was visually better than through my MRX 700. I have experienced this before and the HDMI signal degration is significant when passed through the MRX 700 (setting through) vs direct connection from my Oppo to the JVC X7.)

3. Has the MRX 710 "sound" as a pre in movie mode (without ARC, I know it should be better on the new model) improved, or is it unchanged compared to 700 ?

Thanks for some feedback.

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Hi,
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to access the Bass Peak Level Manager? Also what does the Bass Peak Level Manager do? I have a MRX700, a Paradigm DSP3100 and a DSP3400, and was wanting to check out what this setting it was on.
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I was wondering if someone could tell me how to access the Bass Peak Level Manager? Also what does the Bass Peak Level Manager do? I have a MRX700, a Paradigm DSP3100 and a DSP3400, and was wanting to check out what this setting it was on.
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I haven't heard of that setting/function?

Did you mean "room gain"?
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Hi grasshoppers,
Thanks for your reply. I read about this on the Anthem AV Frequently Asked Questions.

I just set my system up with a big subwoofer but the bass sounds thin. What's wrong?

Most likely, the Bass Peak Level Manager is set very low. Note that many powered subs of various sizes already have their own overload protection, in which case the Bass Peak Level Manager should be left at 0 dB. If you have to reset it and find the test tone frightening, disconnect the sub while you change the setting back to 0 dB, then reconnect it.

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Hi grasshoppers,
Thanks for your reply. I read about this on the Anthem AV Frequently Asked Questions.

I just set my system up with a big subwoofer but the bass sounds thin. What's wrong?

Most likely, the Bass Peak Level Manager is set very low. Note that many powered subs of various sizes already have their own overload protection, in which case the Bass Peak Level Manager should be left at 0 dB. If you have to reset it and find the test tone frightening, disconnect the sub while you change the setting back to 0 dB, then reconnect it.

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Under speaker levels you can view how ARC set
The different levels for each speaker AND sub. This is
A range in the plus10 to minus10. If you need to increase
The bass you can do it in that menu by increasing the Db's.
I increased my sub level by 3dbs.
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Hi grasshoppers,
Thanks for your reply. I read about this on the Anthem AV Frequently Asked Questions.

I just set my system up with a big subwoofer but the bass sounds thin. What's wrong?

Most likely, the Bass Peak Level Manager is set very low. Note that many powered subs of various sizes already have their own overload protection, in which case the Bass Peak Level Manager should be left at 0 dB. If you have to reset it and find the test tone frightening, disconnect the sub while you change the setting back to 0 dB, then reconnect it.

Regards,
Juz
Since they are saying it should be left at 0 and may have been reduced meaning less than 0 like -1, -2, etc... It sounds like they are referring to the LFE setting(not subwoofer trim). The LFE setting can be accessed by pressing the "CHANNELS" button several times until you get to LFE which is right after Subwoofer. Once there you can increase or decrease it with the up/down arrow keys.

The default is 0 and it can only be reduced from 0 you can't increase it, but this sounds like what they are talking about. Reducing this setting will only reduce the LFE and will have no effect on the rest of the bass in the system.

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Need advice, I'm using a cambridge 751R as a 7.1 amplifier with mrx500 as a prepro. At what level should the Cambridge be at?

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Hi Legairre,
Thanks for your advice. I will try to do some tweaking tonight. I am just wanting get better Bass clarity (not LFE) for Kick drum, Double Bass and Electric Bass Guitar Music and Movies. I seem to have plenty of LFE in my room, probably too much. Thanks again.
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