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post #16831 of 16860 Old 04-03-2015, 01:45 PM
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Hey guys, if you are running a 7.1 setup, what do you have your settings at to make the rears work even if it is only a 5.1 signal? essentially i want all 4 rears working even if it is only a 5.1 signal.

What do i leave, what do i change etc.

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Push the audio button twice and scroll to pliix movie. You can also go through the menu and change default to pliix movie for 5.1 sources.
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Hi

I've set up an MRX 300 for the first time and wondering whether anyone has any advice on settings, speaker placement etc. In particular I note that the fronts appear to have a large spike below around 100Hz. I was also surprised that the MRX has classified my fronts as small.

I’m using the MRX 300 as a pre-amp to an Arcam A18 driving a pair of Spendor BC1 floorstanders. Centre speaker (Spendor C3) and surrounds (Monitor Audio Radius 45) are driven by the MRX 300. Sub is a BK XLS200 MK1.

Level calibration as follows:
Dolby volume off
DVCO 0
Front left +3dB
Center +1dB
Front right +1dB
Surround right -1dB
Surround left -2dB
Movie sub -2dB
Music sub -2dB

Movie/Music config:
Front small 100Hz
Center small 60Hz
Surround Small 120Hz
Aux None
Sub On

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Those Spendors have FR of around 55hz, so yes small is correct. I wouldn't set them any lower than 60hz.

The center wouldn't set lower than 70hz.

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Those Spendors have FR of around 55hz, so yes small is correct. I wouldn't set them any lower than 60hz.

The center wouldn't set lower than 70hz.
Thanks. If I change the crossover do I need to run ARC again? I presume not.

Any other feedback or suggestions?
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Thanks. If I change the crossover do I need to run ARC again? I presume not.

Any other feedback or suggestions?
The reason ARC set your main xover to 100hz
Is that you have a lot of boundary gain/reinforcement.

I would NOT lower the xover.

You need to work on the placement of your L/R speakers.
Try to pull them out from the walls and/or get them
Away from corners. Then redo the ARC program.
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Hey guys, if you are running a 7.1 setup, what do you have your settings at to make the rears work even if it is only a 5.1 signal? essentially i want all 4 rears working even if it is only a 5.1 signal.

What do i leave, what do i change etc.

Thanks!
If you set yours up as follows in the Listening Mode Presets menu you'll use all four surrounds (except DD-EX and DTS-ES will use 3 or 4 surrounds depending on the mix).

It's very important that you set 5.1 DTS to Last Used and DTS-ES to None. If you have 5.1 DTS set as Last Used and DTS:ES set to Same as DTS 5.1 , your DTS-MSTR 7.1 movies will default to 5.1 and and you'll have to use the audio button to set them to 7.1 for every movie and turning off the receiver will reset to 5.1 for DTS-MSTR 7.1.

2.0 Dolby Digital Surround - PLIIx Movie
Muilti Channel PCM - PLIIx Movie
5.1 Dolby Digital - PLIIx Movie
Dolby Digital Surround EX - None
5.1 DTS - Last Used
DTS-ES- None

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Thanks grasshoppers. I will have a play with the L/R placement and remeasure.
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Thank you Legairre!!
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If you set yours up as follows in the Listening Mode Presets menu you'll use all four surrounds (except DD-EX and DTS-ES will use 3 or 4 surrounds depending on the mix).

It's very important that you set 5.1 DTS to Last Used and DTS-ES to None. If you have 5.1 DTS set as Last Used and DTS:ES set to Same as DTS 5.1 , your DTS-MSTR 7.1 movies will default to 5.1 and and you'll have to use the audio button to set them to 7.1 for every movie and turning off the receiver will reset to 5.1 for DTS-MSTR 7.1.

2.0 Dolby Digital Surround - PLIIx Movie
Muilti Channel PCM - PLIIx Movie
5.1 Dolby Digital - PLIIx Movie
Dolby Digital Surround EX - None
5.1 DTS - Last Used
DTS-ES- None
I think the defaults that Anthem chose here were not in line with how most people expected the receiver to behave. I remember having to go in and set most options to Last Used or None as well.
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On grasshoppers' advice I played with the placement of my L/Rs due to observed boundary gain. Unfortunately I've taken them as far away from the walls/corners as possible in light of the constraints of the room (or rather family) and they are still showing a spike at the low end but at least ARC brought the crossover down from 100Hz to 60Hz. New L/R charts attached.


A few notes:
- I'm hearing my L/R speakers differently now when listening to stereo music. Controversially, in my mind at least, I am using the sub for stereo but because of the previous boundary gain that ARC is now correcting for, the bass is far more subtle.
- I was using an Arcam rDAC connected straight to a stereo amp, but using the Anthem instead I hear no discernible difference, so will be ditching the rDAC in favour of the Anthem's DAC
- When I have time I will try and compare with and without my Arcam A18 amp for the fronts; perhaps this is now an expensive and unnecessary addition to the MRX...
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On grasshoppers' advice I played with the placement of my L/Rs due to observed boundary gain. Unfortunately I've taken them as far away from the walls/corners as possible in light of the constraints of the room (or rather family) and they are still showing a spike at the low end but at least ARC brought the crossover down from 100Hz to 60Hz. New L/R charts attached.


A few notes:
- I'm hearing my L/R speakers differently now when listening to stereo music. Controversially, in my mind at least, I am using the sub for stereo but because of the previous boundary gain that ARC is now correcting for, the bass is far more subtle.
- I was using an Arcam rDAC connected straight to a stereo amp, but using the Anthem instead I hear no discernible difference, so will be ditching the rDAC in favour of the Anthem's DAC
- When I have time I will try and compare with and without my Arcam A18 amp for the fronts; perhaps this is now an expensive and unnecessary addition to the MRX...
Your main speaker graphs look much better now.
Well done Sir! You are probably correct, before moving
Your speakers and running ARC you were used to
Hearing bloated bass due to placement gain.
FWIW I had the same issue with my mains.

In my opinion the differences in DAC's are negligible
Compared to what ARC can do to what you hear.
Also, be advised if you use an external DAC to analog
The MRX will redigitize the analog signal and the
Process it with ARC and its own DAC!
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be advised if you use an external DAC to analog
The MRX will redigitize the analog signal and the
Process it with ARC and its own DAC!
For stereo music I was passing from the rDAC straight to the Arcam A18 stereo amp, I.e. by-passing the MRX entirely. Thanks for taking the time to look and for your feedback.
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For stereo music I was passing from the rDAC straight to the Arcam A18 stereo amp, I.e. by-passing the MRX entirely. Thanks for taking the time to look and for your feedback.
LOL, if I had read a bit slower I would
Have caught that in your previous post.
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Hi, I want to obtain the most tight bass with my anthem mrx-500 and my Sumiko S-9 (REL)

Is there any way to configure the ARC to get this?

I get the result only using the sub knob cutting at 35 HZ, but I don´t want to change all the time, only for certain music. My idea is configure the Movie as the ARC recommends, but the Music with the most tight bass.

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Hi, I want to obtain the most tight bass with my anthem mrx-500 and my Sumiko S-9 (REL)

Is there any way to configure the ARC to get this?

I get the result only using the sub knob cutting at 35 HZ, but I don´t want to change all the time, only for certain music. My idea is configure the Movie as the ARC recommends, but the Music with the most tight bass.

THANKS
Set the Rel's own crossover to maximum or bypass using the filtering in the Anthem.

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Set the Rel's own crossover to maximum or bypass using the filtering in the Anthem.
I already have the filter set to maximum, but in this case the bass is deep. I want to hear the kick of the drum as in a live concert, and I only get this effect cutting the sub (using it´s knob) at 35-40HZ, but this is manually, I want to do this using the Anthem config.


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I already have the filter set to maximum, but in this case the bass is deep. I want to hear the kick of the drum as in a live concert, and I only get this effect cutting the sub (using it´s knob) at 35-40HZ, but this is manually, I want to do this using the Anthem config.


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Have you tried setting your Room Gain to 0 db in ARC for the music config?

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Have you tried setting your Room Gain to 0 db in ARC for the music config?
Are you ok with this?
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Are you ok with this?
Yes, give that a shot. Your room gain for movies is fairly high, so you should be able to hear a difference.

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Yes, give that a shot. Your room gain for movies is fairly high, so you should be able to hear a difference.
Ok, notice a change but not tight bass.

I only get my desired sound with the crossover cut in 35Hz.

Yesterday I listened the same song (Eric Clapton blu-ray "planes trains and Eric" song "Layla" Using a denon x-3000 and B&W 608 Sub, and get impressed with the sound of the drum. (My personal opinion, of course)

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Ok, notice a change but not tight bass.

I only get my desired sound with the crossover cut in 35Hz.

Yesterday I listened the same song (Eric Clapton blu-ray "planes trains and Eric" song "Layla" Using a denon x-3000 and B&W 608 Sub, and get impressed with the sound of the drum. (My personal opinion, of course)

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Might be a phase issue between your sub and mains. Try changing your sub distance in the receiver.

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Ok, notice a change but not tight bass.

I only get my desired sound with the crossover cut in 35Hz.

Yesterday I listened the same song (Eric Clapton blu-ray "planes trains and Eric" song "Layla" Using a denon x-3000 and B&W 608 Sub, and get impressed with the sound of the drum. (My personal opinion, of course)

Thanks
If you are changing the knob on the sub to 35 Hz with your ARC crossover for L/R set to 60, you would lose all the bass from 35-60 Hz range. That would impact the sound as well. Is your sub sealed or ported?

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macario12, have you tried just increasing the sub level on the MRX by pressing "AUDIO" on the MRX remote until you see "subwoofer"? Then just use the up/down arrows on the remote to increase the sub level. That should give you all the kick you need without messing up your ARC profile.

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I know, that will lose sound, but I hear a lot of live rock music, want to be able to feel the rock song kick drum punch.

My sub is sealed, and is capable to do this job because the manual change gets my desired sound.

Legairre, pressing the audio button does not show the subwoofer level, using the channels button yes, but increasing the volume on the sub, I continue getting deep sound.

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I have my bass at +4 and increase the sub +5 or something to get the adequate bass/thump that I like.
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here's my arc calibration files your comments are welcome

last night i recalibrated my ht system.


speakers are Behringer B212xl for mains pionner for surround klipsch B10 for Height


Sub is micromarty with lms-r15 driver


room is 13.6 X 10.4


level adjustment are as follow


FL -4db
Center -4DB
FR -4DB
SR +2 db
SL+2 db
sub +1
Height Right +4db
Height Left +5db


your input and recommendation are welcome


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@apilon , set your sub to flat under the advanced settings, recalculate, and see if you get a better sub surve. Your sub looks like it will do fine at the lowest frequencies.
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