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Old 01-05-2011, 10:52 AM - Thread Starter
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Yamaha RX-V4600
Has been a great amp, handles my 4 ohm Axiom's with ease.

But it's only first gen hdmi, has no HD audio, and 720p tops, and my new PJ is 1080p Epson 8350

So, should I just upgrade it entirely, get a cheap receiver and use as a preamp, or is there a preamp that isn't 1000's of $$$

Any of the cheaper Denon's, Yammies etc have Pre outs?
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Yamaha RX-V667 (rear)...http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/local/prod...13_12075_1.jpg
I use two as pre-amps (see configuration in my 'signature block'...!)

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That appears..... complex.
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Upgrade the AVR. Get something with pre-outs, like the 667 that was suggested. If you feel that it doesn't have enough power(it should) you could add an amp to it at a later time. Cheapest route at this time. Sorry I don't know what they sell for in Canada.
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That appears..... complex.
Not really. However, the tentative architecture for a 'planned' (add-on) upgrade circa 2015 to a Yamaha/non-Yamaha pre|amp (or 7.1 AVR) supporting a Neo:X style 11.x speaker environment is a little more complex (and a planned upgrade circa 2020 to include a 'downmix' from Hamasaki 22.2 audio to 'something above 11.2 channels' could indeed be described as 'complicated'!)

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Old 01-06-2011, 04:52 AM - Thread Starter
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Wow thanks for posting this newfmp3. I came here to post this exact thing. I am currently looking to retire my Denon 1910. I have had good luck with Onkyo, Denon, and Yamaha. My problem is I have a serious case of upgraditus and and finally getting to the point I feel comfortable grabbing something bigger and holding it longer. (I know that sounds bad ). I really like my Yamaha which is an older receiver but with out the HD codecs. I have to go HDMI 1.4 as I am hoping something comes close TV wise to my Kuro's pic quality but 3D this year so that will get upgraded.

I recently replaced all my speakers with KEF's IQ line and feel like my current receiver is not enough for them to open up. Sadly I do not have preouts on my current receiver. Its a tough choice between the receiver\\amp or just the receiver.

I was actually looking at the Yamaha RX-V667 yesterday. Man these things are heavy compared to Sony, Onkyo, and Denon. Based on the price of the V667 + amp compared to say the RX-A1000/A2000 a lone I am having a tough time deciding. I keep reading how these manufacturers do not meet power specs. In your experience would there be any benefit to one choice or the other if both solutions are within $300 dollars or so of each other? Is it getting to the point where you are getting many more features for the price in a receiver that may not be needed in addition to the watt bump that an additional amp would take care of? Thanks all! I didn't want to post another thread and this information will probably help both the OP and myself.
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Your best bet would be to get the 667 +an amp. Get one of the Emotiva UPA7 or even a UPA5 while they are still around. If you go with the UPA5 the 667 can power the other two speakers. The amp/AVR combo IMO is the best option at this time. If you don't need networking the 667 should do the job for you. If you want networking you can look into the Yamaha 867. Just be sure that whatever you purchase has pre-outs in order to upgrade if you want or need to add power.
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Another vote for AVR + AMP.
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:35 AM - Thread Starter
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my rxv-4600 has a really good amp section. Which is why I was trying to save it since I have 4 ohm speakers.

It's funny, prior to the 4600, I always had a pre/pro setup. Nothing beats it imho. I figured going to a avr would eventually screw me over some how.
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Went the AVR route w/ my non-HT set up...previewed the 667, but went with the rx-1000 for the additional features, at still half the cost of the marantz 7005. You would be happy w/ either. Now all hdmi-digital paths.
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