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So with the advent of Dolby Atmos is Neo X pretty much a dead format now? I mean you can still have a stellar listening experience with it...but as far as future movies that will be released...will any support the format? We only got a handful of movies with Neo X encoding am I right...

As a discrete 11.1 format (7.1 plus wides/heights) it looks that way, however as up-mixing 7.1 to 11.1 NeoX still is very worthy.

Very few discrete Atmos blurays out there and even projected for 2015.

It could even be debatable that as up mixing NeoX may be "better" than DSU (Dolby Surround Upmixing), since putting sounds into ceiling speakers may be more difficult to get "right" than wides/front heights.

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I asked DTS if there were any plans on releasing any future blu-rays with neo:x. They said no.
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I asked DTS if there were any plans on releasing any future blu-rays with neo:x. They said no.

Yep the market has shifted to object sound, now ask them about DTS-UHD and CES 2015, just 3 weeks away...
Speaker layout strategy, install guidelines, etc.
And what sorta Upmixing algorithm they will use on non DTS-UHD sources.


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So with the advent of Dolby Atmos is Neo X pretty much a dead format now? I mean you can still have a stellar listening experience with it...but as far as future movies that will be released...will any support the format? We only got a handful of movies with Neo X encoding am I right...
There is no need for Neo:X going forward except as a competing upconverting, post processing feature like Dolby Surround.

Dolby Atmos, Auro3D, and DTS MDA, all with discrete audio information rather than matrixing, are the new games in town.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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Is there a list of which movies were actually encoded with DTS Neo X?
I know the Expendables 2 was, any others?

Also the newer versions of The Expendables 2 on Blu Ray no longer say DTS NEO:X on the slipcovers??? Is it the same track as the older versions?
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Mine did not say it on the slipcover, but it did contain the same track and the testing tool that comes with it.

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Is there a list of which movies were actually encoded with DTS Neo X?
I know the Expendables 2 was, any others?
Dredd and Step Up: Revolution.

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The list:

http://www.dts.com/consumers/enterta...recentReleases

And this german release has Neo:X:

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00I...w_bottom_linksm


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As a discrete 11.1 format (7.1 plus wides/heights) it looks that way, however as up-mixing 7.1 to 11.1 NeoX still is very worthy.

Very few discrete Atmos blurays out there and even projected for 2015.

It could even be debatable that as up mixing NeoX may be "better" than DSU (Dolby Surround Upmixing), since putting sounds into ceiling speakers may be more difficult to get "right" than wides/front heights.

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I would agree that it is still worthy. I use it all the time and knowing there is a limited release of ATMOS and DTS:X is coming I am in no rush to get a new receiver just for the Dolby DSU option. Neo:X does a pretty fine job. Maybe not as good but I don't really know because I can't do any A/B comparing. All I do know is I have Neo:X and it ain't bad.

I have moved my front high speakers to the ATMOS top front position and do like what I hear using Neo:X processing with the speakers in this new position. I played the DTS:X demo disc and processed the audio using Neo:X. The expected overhead sounds, like circling birds, were overhead in my room.

I do expect that by winter 2015 I very well may have a new processor depending on what DTS and various manufacturers release by then. So my room has had speakers moved and hung getting ready for Atmos. I am looking forward to what DTS has to say in March about overhead speaker locations. Meanwhile I am enjoying my room very much.

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Does anyone know why the German release of I Frankensien was the only ones released in NEO:X and headphone:x? Also DTS told me they weren't releasing any neo:x blu-rays anymore. I bought it and it sounds awesome.
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I am using DTS Neo X for my 7.1 setup with front wides on my Marantz SR6009. I feel the sound stage is awesome and I would continue to use this mode more than Audyssey DSX.

I am right now using a satellite speaker on front wide compared to FS at Fronts & BS at Surround. I am just tempted to try a BS instead of satellite and see if it brings any enhanced experience (may be will try with my sony mini hi-fi music system BS)
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I can't figure out what FS & BS is short for?
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Apologize. Fs - floor standers, bs- bookshelves
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So your 7.1 consists of side surrounds and no back surrounds? I don't like Audyssey DSX at all. I'm running 9.2 H. Unfortunatley I can't run wides because of room setup.
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Yes. My room is not perfect either. But still experimenting with various placement.
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Will your reciever allow for 9.1? It should with an external amp. If so you should try adding back surrounds.
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Depends on the room layout. I'm set up on the long wall of a 27x15' room. For years I ran 6.1 then 7.1 with rear surrounds even though my couch is against the back wall. When I bought an x4000, I decided to move the rear surrounds to wides and eventually added heights when I bought an amp for my 4ohm mains. With being against the back wall, I've not felt that I've lost anything by removing the rear surrounds, they're just not needed in my room. I still get great effects and panning behind me. If I had a good bit of room behind the MLP, it'd probably be a different story. I get much more use out of the wides. The heights don't seem to do a whole lot. I love NeoX and use it for everything but music.


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Does anyone know why the German release of I Frankensien was the only ones released in NEO:X and headphone:x? Also DTS told me they weren't releasing any neo:x blu-rays anymore. I bought it and it sounds awesome.
Neo:X encoding of movies is passe since DTS has moved to object surround mixing with their new X format, the competition to Dolby Atmos.

Listen up, studios! Just say "NO" to DNR and EE!!
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Neo:X encoding of movies is passe since DTS has moved to object surround mixing with their new X format, the competition to Dolby Atmos.
I understand that. It just annoys me that DTS told me that there would be no more neo:x releases and then this German release surfaces.
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Will your reciever allow for 9.1? It should with an external amp. If so you should try adding back surrounds.
Unfortunately I don't think it allows. Mine is Marantz SR6009, so will have to be satisfied with 7.1 (though i have the option of adding another sub woofer)
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