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Submitted my information for return on 4/23. Box showed up on 4/26. Shipped out 4/27. Receiver (a 609) arrived back yesterday. Haven't fired it up yet to see if it works as it was replaced as the primary AVR by a Pioneer SC-81. The Onkyo will be moving up to the master bedroom, assuming it works, and replacing a 16 year old JVC.
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Does the TX-NR509 properly downmix everything to 2.1 if I only have two speakers (L/R) and a subwoofer or do I have to set it up?

Should I connect the optical/HDMI cable in game or TV inputs if I'm using a PC? Does it even matter?

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doesn't matter which labeled input you use.. hdmi is better than optical, higher bandwidth can pass the dts-hd and master audio formats, which then get used when downmixing to 2.1.
my 609 does a great job downmixing to 2.1, just make sure you run the audyssey calibration/mic setup thing. and make sure your subwoofer is set to allow the receiver to do the crossover.. on mine I just turn the crossover knob all the way up to 120hz which is the max.. then the receiver sets the crossover to whatever audyssey tells it to

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doesn't matter which labeled input you use.. hdmi is better than optical, higher bandwidth can pass the dts-hd and master audio formats, which then get used when downmixing to 2.1.
my 609 does a great job downmixing to 2.1, just make sure you run the audyssey calibration/mic setup thing. and make sure your subwoofer is set to allow the receiver to do the crossover.. on mine I just turn the crossover knob all the way up to 120hz which is the max.. then the receiver sets the crossover to whatever audyssey tells it to
Thanks for the help and extra info, I think I'll set my sub to 80hz though, I think that's what THX recommends and just in case Audessey sets it to above 80hz or something.
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Thanks for the help and extra info, I think I'll set my sub to 80hz though, I think that's what THX recommends and just in case Audessey sets it to above 80hz or something.

No, No, No.

Set the LPF on the sub to 120 Hz (basically eliminating it). The other LPF settings on the sub are for use with an older receiver without Audessey or other bass management. If you set it lower than 120 Hz., you will lose some LFE content (see below). Set the crossover in Audessey to 80 Hz (you can adjust this later*). This cutoff (or crossover frequency), is the frequency at which stuff that would normally be played by your main speakers will now be sent by your amplifier to the subwoofer in addition to the LFE stuff being played (again, see below). If you set both the sub AND Audessey to 80 Hz, the filters combine to make the roll off steeper and you will lose content (volume) in frequencies near the crossover point.

Set the LPF of LFE in Audessey to 120 Hz. Note: This is different than the settings above. This makes sure ALL of the LFE, or Low Frequency Effects (the .1 in 5.1) is sent to the subwoofer, and not lost (this is another reason for setting the sub to 120 Hz. above).

Set your speakers to SMALL, even if they are huge (small basically just means you are using a subwoofer).


* you may adjust the crossover in Audessey up or down from 80 Hz to better integrate your sub with your other speakers. Experiment with this setting after you have listened (with it set at 80 Hz) for a few days or weeks. A good rule of thumb is to set it 10 Hz above the -3 dB point of your other speakers. My speakers play well down to around 60 Hz, so I set it at 70 Hz. With smaller or less efficient surrounds, one might need to set it as high as 120 Hz.
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No, No, No.

Set the LPF on the sub to 120 Hz (basically eliminating it). The other LPF settings on the sub are for use with an older receiver without Audessey or other bass management. If you set it lower than 120 Hz., you will lose some LFE content (see below). Set the crossover in Audessey to 80 Hz (you can adjust this later*). This cutoff (or crossover frequency), is the frequency at which stuff that would normally be played by your main speakers will now be sent by your amplifier to the subwoofer in addition to the LFE stuff being played (again, see below). If you set both the sub AND Audessey to 80 Hz, the filters combine to make the roll off steeper and you will lose content (volume) in frequencies near the crossover point.

Set the LPF of LFE in Audessey to 120 Hz. Note: This is different than the settings above. This makes sure ALL of the LFE, or Low Frequency Effects (the .1 in 5.1) is sent to the subwoofer, and not lost (this is another reason for setting the sub to 120 Hz. above).

Set your speakers to SMALL, even if they are huge (small basically just means you are using a subwoofer).


* you may adjust the crossover in Audessey up or down from 80 Hz to better integrate your sub with your other speakers. Experiment with this setting after you have listened (with it set at 80 Hz) for a few days or weeks. A good rule of thumb is to set it 10 Hz above the -3 dB point of your other speakers. My speakers play well down to around 60 Hz, so I set it at 70 Hz. With smaller or less efficient surrounds, one might need to set it as high as 120 Hz.
Ohh alright, that makes sense lol, thanks for the advice, I'll wait until my sub gets here and see how it goes for a few days and post back to update on how it went.

Btw for the Mic Setup, it says I have to use a tripod but I don't have anything like that, would it be alright to just put it on some stacked books to get the mic to ear level?

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Ohh alright, that makes sense lol, thanks for the advice, I'll wait until my sub gets here and see how it goes for a few days and post back to update on how it went.

Btw for the Mic Setup, it says I have to use a tripod but I don't have anything like that, would it be alright to just put it on some stacked books to get the mic to ear level?

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Buy a cheap tripod, it makes a difference. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Targus-TG-...ripod/21675280
I blew the budget I had (and a little over) to buy the main components down to the last penny so I can't even consider something cheap right now, to that end I'm considering using the screw on top of a lamp that someone advised on another thread.

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Would it be safe to completely shut off power to the NR609 after prolonged use and without first turning the receiver off?

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It should be. I've had power outages while it was on, and it just turns itself back on when the power is restored.

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