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I am currenlty putting together a full 7.2 home theatre/2ch room and am waivering between the Anthem D2v and the Classe SSP-800. My main concern with the classe is that although it includes a rather comprehensive PEQ, they don't provide any software to set it up!

Iwas wondering if anyone out there can recommend/comment on any RTA software packages or approaches that will help me populate the PEQ in the Classe SSP-800. Any feedback is appreciated.

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If you want something plug&play (from what I understand REW is PITA), OmniMic, $300 from PartsExpress.

There's a thread on it in the DIY Speaker/Sub forum.

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If you want something plug&play (from what I understand REW is PITA), OmniMic, $300 from PartsExpress.

There's a thread on it in the DIY Speaker/Sub forum.

Great product but I don't recall it having any output ability to an SSP or even a defined set of parametric settings that you could manually enter.
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...recommend/comment on any RTA software packages...


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Kal you hit the nail on the head hear, exactly what I am looking for. I noted this is what you used while reading your "music in the round" review (very informative btw, thanks!) To give me some other options, what or who are the main competitors to REW?

Thanks for the feedback guys, this is a great place to start!
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Kal you hit the nail on the head hear, exactly what I am looking for. I noted this is what you used while reading your "music in the round" review (very informative btw, thanks!) To give me some other options, what or who are the main competitors to REW?

It really depends. There are many alternatives but some are complex and pricey and not all will directly generate filters. For small investment, consider also XTZ room analyzer which will create LF correction filters, too.

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Well, one radical approach might be to augment your system with another. Since low frequencies are the ones needing most help, you can get a JBL BassQ and let it manage your subs (if you don't have multiple subs, you should ). That has automated correction and the whole box is reasonably priced: http://www.jblsynthesis.com/ProductD....aspx?prdid=89



Roger Dressler who posts here frequently uses it with SSP-800. There is a long thread on it some place on AVS.

Otherwise, I am not too hopeful that you can learn all of this on your own. If you are determined to do it anyway, here are a series of sticky threads that explain the basics: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/forumd...-Audio-Skeptic

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I use XTZ room analyzer. It is pretty easy to use, but it only indicates correction for the lower frequencies. Anyway, you still need some knowledge to set up the crossover and the slope...
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I am also looking to figure out a way to EQ my system. For 2 channel, I use RTA and am comfortable measuring, appying EQ, re-measuring etc until I get it right.

However, with the SSP-800, I can't get the internal test tones to stay on one channel (it insists on cycling through all channels - very annoying). I'm also not sure it's pink noise. Is there any recommended bluray disc that has pink noise that I could play one channel at a time to measure?

I'll also look into REW.

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Well, one radical approach might be to augment your system with another. Since low frequencies are the ones needing most help, you can get a JBL BassQ and let it manage your subs (if you don't have multiple subs, you should ). That has automated correction and the whole box is reasonably priced: http://www.jblsynthesis.com/ProductD....aspx?prdid=89

Roger Dressler who posts here frequently uses it with SSP-800. There is a long thread on it some place on AVS.

Otherwise, I am not too hopeful that you can learn all of this on your own. If you are determined to do it anyway, here are a series of sticky threads that explain the basics: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/forumd...-Audio-Skeptic

Good idea but I think the OP was looking for something to program the PEQ in the SSP-800 rather than an add-on device.

Also, that will only work on the subwoofers and not on the low end of the main speakers which is also subject to room effects.

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Good idea but I think the OP was looking for something to program the PEQ in the SSP-800 rather than an add-on device.

OT but any thoughts on reviewing the JBL BassQ?
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I am also looking to figure out a way to EQ my system. For 2 channel, I use RTA and am comfortable measuring, appying EQ, re-measuring etc until I get it right.

However, with the SSP-800, I can't get the internal test tones to stay on one channel (it insists on cycling through all channels - very annoying). I'm also not sure it's pink noise. Is there any recommended bluray disc that has pink noise that I could play one channel at a time to measure?

I'll also look into REW.

Thanks.

Ian, you can get the test tone to stay on one speaker by turning on the test signal noise, and then manually selecting the speaker you want to look at, and then hitting either the adust up or down button. Once you have done this, it will stay on that speaker for as long as you need.
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OT but any thoughts on reviewing the JBL BassQ?

Not until/unless I get more subs.

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I use XTZ room analyzer. It is pretty easy to use, but it only indicates correction for the lower frequencies.

But that's where you really need the corrections.

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Ian, you can get the test tone to stay on one speaker by turning on the test signal noise, and then manually selecting the speaker you want to look at, and then hitting either the adust up or down button. Once you have done this, it will stay on that speaker for as long as you need.

Thanks. Yeah, that works for the most part. Too bad you have to actually hit the up/down, but it's a easy enough work around.
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As much as I enjoy the technical side of room acoustics, I would rather find an experienced professional who can perform the room analysis and program the corrections into my SSP-800. I recently hired an ISF certified Professional to calibrate my Runco projector and Kuro Display and the improvements were appreciated. Any suggestions for a Room EQ professional experienced with Classe equipment in the South Florida area?

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As much as I enjoy the technical side of room acoustics, I would rather find an experienced professional who can perform the room analysis and program the corrections into my SSP-800. I recently hired an ISF certified Professional to calibrate my Runco projector and Kuro Display and the improvements were appreciated. Any suggestions for a Room EQ professional experienced with Classe equipment in the South Florida area?


I cannot help you with a recommendation for that but I would like you to know that you would require his services each time there is any significant room/furniture rearrangement. 


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Blatant spam here, but i sell XTZ Room Analyzer and do remote EQ sessions using it. Matter of fact I did one today for one of my clients in Dallas TX (I am based in NorCal).

I've had a few people buy XTZ for use with their Classe processors.

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Here's the link to a thread my client started over at wbf: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?6967-Nyal-Mellor

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I cannot help you with a recommendation for that but I would like you to know that you would require his services each time there is any significant room/furniture rearrangement. 

Rearranging furniture in my listening room (family room) is strictly forbidden. Looking forward to your next TITR article. Happy new year Kal .

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I posted this on a couple of other threads and thought that it would be nice to see pictures, so please do http://www.avsforum.com/t/1468049/class-audio-hifi-home-theater-pictures

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