Originally Posted by 2root4u
I purchased my Onkyo 360 right before Christmas, and so far it has worked out great. My setup include multiple sources -- Verizon FIOS, Samsung Blu-Ray, XBox -- connected through the Onkyo to a Samsung PN64D7000.
I've seen numerous folks mention disabling the HDMI-CEC due to input switching issues, but I found that the Samsung and Onkyo can play nice together. The primary issue is that the Samsung will tell the Onkyo to switch to the TV/CD input. If you don't have your inputs properly assigned, this will cause frustration. For me, I want the TV to default to Verizon FIOS thus making the entire setup simple. So I assigned the HDMI input of my FIOS to the TV/CD setting. Don't fight the input...just switch your default input to TV/CD even if renamed.
Now, I can turn on the TV which turns on the Onkyo and then switches to TV/CD (FIOS) automatically. This means the wife/babysitter/whoever can turn on the tv with any remote or by hand, and the entire system will work with no Harmony remote. Turning the TV off will also turn the receiver off.
Keys to get this working properly is to:
1) HDMI-CEC enabled on the Onkyo
2) HDMI-CEC enabled on the Samsung (AnyNet)
3) AnyNet Receiver option set to "on" on the Samsung
4) AnyNet Auto-Off set to "on" on the Samsung
Next if you program the Onkyo remote with your inputs, switching to Blu-Ray or others inputs is as simple as selecting the Source and hitting Source Power. That's a simple enough process to justify ditching my previous Harmony setup.
One headache I did have with the Samsung Blu-Ray was getting anything to display. That problem was solved by disabling AnyNet on the Blu-Ray player. After that, all was good.
If you're looking to enhance your family room and keep it wife/family friendly and want to keep things simple, I recommend this setup.
I helped my father setup a Yamaha with its HDMI-CEC implementation. We found that the Samsung TV and Yamaha did not play well together for 2 reasons. 1) The Samsung TV would "lose" the AnyNet Receiver "on" setting after every power off. 2) The biggest problem was that the Samsung would turn the Yamaha to a Component/Composite input automatically. Unlike the Onkyo where inputs can be flexibly assigned to physical ports, the Yamaha has fixed inputs. Thus the TV forced you to use a non-HDMI source by default when using HDMI-CEC. As a result, we returned his Yamaha and purchased the Onkyo 360 for his Samsung TV as well. Everything is working well together.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with the system. I do have a few small issues though:
1) Heat. I was worried about the blazing heat on top of my system. My system typically shows 42C during normal TV watching and the cabinet is enclosed but has 18" of headroom above the receiver. Nonetheless, I installed a cabinet cooling system from ebay with two 80mm fan and a progammable thermostat.
This has helped and I feel better about the Onkyo not cooking itself. I found it interesting that my father's Onkyo only ran at 34C during TV watching but in an enclosed cabinet with 1" of headroom. But he's using tiny Bose Accoustimass speakers and I'm pushing Canton Ergo tower and center speakers.
2) Zone 2. A small gripe since this system is a steal for $300, but the zone 2 not fully functional being that it only supports analog output (no HDMI audio signals). I found that it also supports any output from the Net input (Pandora, Rhapsody, etc). The Net output is my main use case, and I intend to output the sound to a wireless speaker in my kitchen.
In the end, I think I'll be going with Sonos for my wireless speaker in the kitchen, and I'll use a Sonos Connect with the Onkyo. As a result, I'll probably quit using the Onkyo apps and start using the Sonos iPhone app which looks much better. The Sonos playing both the Onkyo and the kitchen speakers should do a better job managing what is playing, volume, and keeping the audio in sync.
3) Net control via iPhone apps. While this does work with the Onkyo app, it's not all that great. A bit unresponsive at times, the directional pad doesn't work on some screens, some displays will say "See TV", and you often have to wait until the next song to see what is currently playing. I also purchased the oRemote app. It's better from a capability standpoint but the interface is clunky. At least the Onkyo app tried to be iPhone friendly and touch screen friendly. The oRemote has a boatload of buttons crammed onto the screen with a tiny display.
My fix for this control issue is simply to use Sonos instead. All my remote control needs are for playing Pandora and Rhapsody while in the kitchen. Sonos should work out much better here.
That's all I have for now. Hope this feedback might help someone else.