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Were Getting Closer....

I just sent a email to Diane Gonzalez
diana.gonzales@pioneer-usa.com

Who is in charge of Home Audio Sales for Pioneer.
She did not respond to me today.

But the Amazon Pre-Order is a Good Sign!

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Anyone pre-order yet??
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The new elite line up is on the Pioneer web site:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...lite+Receivers
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Looks like Pioneer has released every one of its 2011 receivers except the one we're waiting for... At least the vsx-52 gives us an idea about what we can expect. Last year the vsx-1120 and the vsx-32 were basically the same receiver; I'm sure we can expect the same from the 52 & 1121.
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This is from Pioneer as of today in regards to the 1121-k that we all want to get our hands on.

Read response from Pioneer rep and my inquiry is below.

It's to be released in a couple of months



Thank You,

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--Original Message--
Date: 06/09/11
To: customer.support@pioneerservice.com
Subject: Feature and Specification|A00001|7175454383[#1358658]

Inquiry Type:Feature and Specification
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Inquiry:I have seen that ther is an operations manual for the new VSX-1121k reciever. Can you tell me the products release date? I want to make sure that this is a model that is going to be sold and not a hoax. I am holding off purchasing the VSX-1021k model if the 1121k is going to be released. Thank you for the time and look forward to hearing good news as to the product i am looking for.
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Anyone find it strange that the 1121's elite cousin has hit BestBuys, but the 1121 remains unannounced/absent?
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Yea, this is wierd, why are there so many elite models? I even called both best buy's close to me, I was told by two different magnolia reps, they were not going to carry the 1121-k, and they think cause they carry all the elite models.....

So what gives? I'm almost considering doing something else....
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Pioneer did the same thing last year and that is why I have the 1020K!
I got so frustrated and my Sony was failing badly that I had to make the Leap and went to BB and purchased the 1020K.

I am not in that same position this year, so I can wait..however I am looking at the Elite VSX 52

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It's really strange considering: 1. that the elite equivalent (VSX-52) has been out in stores for weeks; and 2. the 1120 was largely a huge success for pioneer.

Strange...
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Why do they have so many models? Like 8 or 9 elite models, like they really need that many, if it was not for integrated iPhone / iPad control, which I could just use iRule software and just buy the older 1120-k and be done with it....
I don't get having 8 to 9 Elite models, and then another 5-6 regular VSX models.....
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Hi,
The VSX 40, 50, 51, 52 and 53 are really the new 2011 lineup
The VSX 30, 31, 32, & 33 as well as the SC 35 and SC 37 were there in 2010....

In fact if you look at each model besides the 50, 51, 52 and 53 you will see that they Do Not have the new Air Play and Support for the Ipad and Ipad2

Why they kept them all there I do not know, but it can be deceiving....
Do the Compare of the models and you will see what I am talking about.

The VSX 40 is new but does not have the same features as it's big brothers the 50, 51, 52 and 53.
Also the 50 and 51 do not have the same features as the 52 and 53.

To be on par with the new VSX 1121K you really need to look at the 52 and the 53.

The Features of the 53 over the 52 (per Compare) is listed below:
1) HDMI Input / Output: The 53 = 7 In / 2 Out the 52 = 7 In / 1 Out / The 1121 = 7 In / 1 Out

2) Phase Control: on the 52 is "Plus" where on the 53 it is "Full Band / Plus" / The 1121 has "Plus"

3) Digital Inputs / Output: 53= 5 in the 52 = 5 In / 1 Out / The 1121 = 3 In / 1 Out

4) Multi Room and Source Output: The 53 = 3 Zone (3rd Zone Audio Only) / The 1121 is 2 Zone A/V
the 52 = 2 Zone A/V

5) Zone 3 Sources on the 53 = BD / TV / Sat / DVR / Video / CD / Tuner / Adapter Port.
The 52 does not have this because it does not have a 3rd Zone capability.

6) IR Serial Remote In/Out: The 53 = 2 In / 1 Out and the 52= 1 In / 1 Out / The 1121 = 1 In / 1 Out

7) Front Panel: The 53 = Aluminum Hairline the 52 = Hairline

That is what I can see the extra $200.00 for the VSX 53 gets you over the VSX 52.
The above is from putting them side by side in the "Compare Feature" on the Pioneer Website.

Because the VSX 1121 is not listed yet, the only Specs that we have for it is from the Operating Instructions available for download.
So Print the Spec page of the VSX 1121 and then go to the Pioneer Website and compare that to the VSX 52 and or 53.

You can then see what the extra $150.00 for the VSX 52 gets ya and what the extra $350.00 for the VSX 53 over the 1121K at $750.00 gets you.

If the VSX 52 has enough pluses over the VSX 1121K to rationalize the extra $150.00 then don't wait and get the VSX 52 because it IS Available.

I am going to do what I prescribe above and see what the differences really are..Give me time and I will probably post them here in a follow up Post.

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PS. Updated with some 1121 Specs
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Me again,
I don't know but after downloading the OP Manual for the VSX 52/53 and comparing with the VSX 1121, I do not see many differences if any between the 52 and the 1121.

So, if you have the money and can find a good deal on a VSX 52, you can't go wrong.
But you can always do the comparison yourself.

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And the Saga over the 1121 goes on and on and on.....LOL!
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It's a compelling argument re: 1121, 52, 53... but because the 52 & 53 are Elite models, their availability (particularly online) isn't as attractive as that of the 1121. Because of this, last year's 1120 was nicely discounted only a few weeks after being released. The same doesn't hold true of Elite models. That's why I'm holding out for the 1121. The Elite badge, aluminum faceplate, and amber display are nice, but it's tough to justify a VSX-52 when a VSX-1121 possesses nearly identical features. I just hope it doesn't take "months" as reported.
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I hear ya,
The Elites are not Sold Online!

This is from the Pioneer Website"
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*Pioneer does NOT authorize any dealers to sell Elite-branded products on the Internet (only in-store sales are permitted). Therefore, any Elite-branded product purchased on the Internet is NOT authorized, which means that it does NOT carry the manufacturer's limited warranty and does not qualify for any manufacturer's rebate.

Boy, they're really Serious about the Elites!
I had seen this before though....

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Where the heck is this receiver????? So strange
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Great find.

Confirmed:

7 HDMI inputs (one front mounted).
Pandora, Rhapsody
Airplay
570 watt power consumption (up from 400 watts)
clean, concealed from panel look

Where do you actually see Pandora? Are you looking at the latest VSX-1121-K owner's manual? I can't find any mention of Pandora.

Here's the link I was at: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...ctions1015.pdf

So it seems like the Elite VSX-52 and VSX-53 are the only one with Pandora now?

Warning: Surgeon General has determined that time spent listening to music is not deducted from lifespan.
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Where do you actually see Pandora? Are you looking at the latest VSX-1121-K owner's manual? I can't find any mention of Pandora.

Here's the link I was at: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...ctions1015.pdf

So it seems like the Elite VSX-52 and VSX-53 are the only one with Pandora now?

From pioneer: 1121 Brochure
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Strange..
I go to the Pioneer Website and I see this Page for AV Receivers..

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...neer+Receivers

Then I do a search on the Pioneer Website and I see this Web-Page:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ers/VSX-1121-K

Anyway the second page shows "BUY NOW"
So, has anyone seen the 1121 finally available to purchase?
I also see a new price of $799.99..though it is still listed as a "Pre- Order" at Amazon for $749.99

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-11.../dp/B004M8RPBS

It's getting closer.....
I also see that the Elite's are listed at Best Buy.com so I would assume that the 1121 will eventually be there as well.....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...c=abcat0200000

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I really like the new front fascia of VSX-1121..
though when you put it into comparison with the VSX-1120, there´s nothing special improved in raw terms (I emphasize larger consumption, 2 sub pre-outs, AirPlay and DLNA capabilities...my TV itself has DLNA anyway...)
only 50 bucks more means there´s nothing to get itchy for...I guess we can easily rest with the 1120s for another year
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I really like the new front fascia of VSX-1121..
though when you put it into comparison with the VSX-1120, there´s nothing special improved in raw terms (I emphasize larger consumption, 2 sub pre-outs, AirPlay and DLNA capabilities...my TV itself has DLNA anyway...)
only 50 bucks more means there´s nothing to get itchy for...I guess we can easily rest with the 1120s for another year

Biggest deal is the airplay and pandora. I do not know if the re-designed, beefier power supply will have an impact on real power.

The front fascia looks really nice!
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So what the heck accounts for the price difference between the 1121 and the vsx-52? According to the datasheet, they are exactly the same.

Better DACs maybe?
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A few additional features (minor price implications) and a different marketing strategy.

It is similar to Toyota vs Lexus. There is overlap but the willingness to upgrade to lexus at the entry level helps pad the bottom line. The elite line also gives speciality retailers some options and pioneer tries to protect them through warranty constraints.
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So what the heck accounts for the price difference between the 1121 and the vsx-52? According to the datasheet, they are exactly the same.

Better DACs maybe?

In past, it was limited to different color leds, faceplate, 12v trigger and another year of warranty. if you opened the two up, they were identical inside.
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I do like the look of the Elite...

Elite 52 Brochure

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ep...le%20Sheet.pdf


1121 Brochure:

http://www.hillresi.com/PDFS/VSX-1121-K.pdf

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I really like the look of this receiver this year. I wish it would hurry up and come out I need a new receiver for sure. By the way what is the difference between the Elite 51 and the 52 series really?
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I noticed they show this receiver as 7.1, not 7.2, not sure if that's a deal breaker, I dunno, any difference from 7.2 vs 7.1, and extra sub channel?

I talked to my local magnolia's, and they found no info on the 1121-k, from what they were telling me, they were to be carrying more Elite models, compared to the VSX models.....
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I noticed they show this receiver as 7.1, not 7.2, not sure if that's a deal breaker, I dunno, any difference from 7.2 vs 7.1, and extra sub channel?

I talked to my local magnolia's, and they found no info on the 1121-k, from what they were telling me, they were to be carrying more Elite models, compared to the VSX models.....

It's got dual subs out, but they are effectively a y splitter. This is true for almost all receivers branded as "7.2" except the high end Denons that can actually create distinct LFE channels (i believe).
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I really like the look of this receiver this year. I wish it would hurry up and come out I need a new receiver for sure. By the way what is the difference between the Elite 51 and the 52 series really?

bigger difference b/w 51 (1021) and 52 (1121) than 52 and 53 (dual hdmi out, zone 3, etc).
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Anyone pre-order yet? What do you guy's think, is this the one you've been waiting for?
I might pre-order later tonight, we will see...
The Elite vsx-52 is in stock at BB, for only 100 bucks more
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Howdy all,

Quote:


The Elite VSX-52 is in stock at BB, for only 100 bucks more

Well, I'll tell ya, for $100.00 more than the elusive 1121 and with my Best Buy Card with Silver Rewards which will net me 18 or 36 months same as Cash with no interest.
Plus right out of the box the Warranty is doubled on the Elite to 2 years compared to the 1121's 1 year.

Not to jump ship here on the 1121 but I can easily rationalize the $100 bucks extra, plus it IS after all an Elite..
If I can find a VSX 52 at Best Buy..it will be in my living room and cranking this weekend!
No If's And's or But's!

My last question is, the Best Buy Website still shows the Elite VSX 52 as "Coming Soon" So, TheaterChad, where did you see it actually "In Stock" and available for purchase?

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