Exciting thread here today. Mythlar
, sorry others regarded your first couple posts with suspicion. And I am so glad you posted! My thought process was running like kyxapka's
, I wanted MultiEQ XT, and the 1712 had what I needed, except for hassle-free firmware upgrades. But I think the 2112 has what I'll like, and it will give me growing room. My receivers are like pets, they live long past a reasonable life expectancy. I was going in circles, 1712 vs. 2112, vs. cheap-as-possible last year's 591, but once the $399 was confirmed as not a typo, I called and got my 2112ci at $399.99 and no shipping charges.
Initially, best price was $499, but he checked for me and I appreciated that, because they were busy, and without that deal, I'd probably be getting a 591, without the joy. Tonight I get to order HDMI cables and banana plugs -- and thank you, jdsmoothie
, for the banana link in the introductory info.
I probably have a week's wait, and I'll come back soon with the list of what I have to work with, for ideas in setup, and prioritizing what's on my wish list.
My bad local 'authorized dealer' experience is almost behind me. I went to look for last year's models. All the BS I got at the store was kinda amusing. I asked about the 2112, they won't be getting that one. [IMO, they are missing the boat, there.] I asked about the 1712, he said "There is no such thing as a 1712." When I said it was coming out a bit later, maybe this month, he scoffed (!) and said "All the new models are already out, and here they are, you are looking at all the new models, there are no more." ... pointing to the 3 (!) models he had. When I asked about selling price he tried to tell me MSRP was the competitive street prices, and to prove it, he went online... not to Denon, to Amazon (another authorized dealer), where he found prices all within $1 of MSRP, but refused to believe it was MSRP. He questioned my interest in MultiEQ XT and said "You don't need Audyssey, just use your ear." And for the subwoofer, "You don't need Audyssey for a subwoofer. It's just a single volume control, you are
aware of that, aren't you? Just twist one dial, that's all there is to it." He claimed to be very familiar with the various levels of Audyssey, said "I've used all of them." It was double commission day for Onkyo, that's what he was pushing, and he wouldn't take no for an answer. Glad I can read up here before going to the store.