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Does 24/192 Khz ALAC support mean that the receiver will decode a bit rate higher than 320 kbps? I ripped a handful of my CDs to ALAC and my 2112 won't play the .mp4s. The bit rate of the files seems to be around 900 kbps.
Also, is the firmware update mentioned still expected to be coming soon?
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Sorry guys .. my mistake. Only for the 1913 and XX13 CI models. frown.gif

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Bummer! Thanks for the response though.

I currently have a Squeezebox Touch, so I'll continue to use that. But Logitech discontinued the Squeezebox product line, and people in the Slim Devices forum are all wondering what they're going to eventually replace it with. Kudos to Denon for implementing gapless playback in the upper-level xx13 series at least. I'm surprised AVR owners haven't been all over the manufacturers to implement gapless.

We should get a "necktie party" thread going for this issue. biggrin.gif
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Anyone a have clicking sound when changing volume? I notice it very easily if running a sine wave with REW. But can also notice it when playing music.

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That's the result of upgrading from Audyssey 2EQ to MultEQ XT which has 16x more speaker filter control points as well as the ability to EQ the sub, which 2EQ cannot do. smile.gif

Yup. This is some amazing tech. I can never go back to not having it. I switched back and forth and the sound is basically dead without it on now. It's like my room swallowed up so much sound.

And that subwoofer filtering cannot be understood until it is heard. Before I felt like I was only hearing a lot of really deep bass. Now I am hearing a lot of mid and upper bass which has made the sound so much more exciting. Drums sound so cool now.

I'm so glad Denon included XT in a very affordable receiver. This has to be the best audio purchase I have ever made.
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Congrats!!! Nice feeling when something works out, right!

That is a fact! This is probably going to save me money in the long run as I won't need to upgrade my speakers for a while longer now.
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how you doing guys i have a question i am having a problem with my denon 2312ci
i cant get audio when using hdmi pass through it was working perfect until i unplugged the receiver because it was stuck when playing on pandora and now the hdmi pass through wont pass audio but it will pass video

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Unplugging would not have changed the settings, although confirm that the HDMI Control setting is still set to ON and that the Standby Source is set to the HDMI jack# that you want to pass through. If yes to both, try cycling the HDMI Control setting OFF, then ON again. Power off all devices, then power on the TV, AVR, source device letting a few seconds pass between powering on each device.

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Unplugging would not have changed the settings, although confirm that the HDMI Control setting is still set to ON and that the Standby Source is set to the HDMI jack# that you want to pass through. If yes to both, try cycling the HDMI Control setting OFF, then ON again. Power off all devices, then power on the TV, AVR, source device letting a few seconds pass between powering on each device.
i will check it out now thanks for the quick reply

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thanks jdsmoothie everything is working now i had to cycle my Samsung cable box

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Sorry guys .. my mistake. Only for the 1913 and XX13 CI models. frown.gif

Disappointing jdsmoothie, but we still love ya. wink.gif

As for YOU Denon - Boo!! Hiss!!! And why not? Is this hardware limitation or a marketing decision to entice people to "upgrade" to the xx13 line?
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Yup ... hardware/memory limitation.

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That's the result of upgrading from Audyssey 2EQ to MultEQ XT which has 16x more speaker filter control points as well as the ability to EQ the sub, which 2EQ cannot do. smile.gif

Yup. This is some amazing tech. I can never go back to not having it. I switched back and forth and the sound is basically dead without it on now. It's like my room swallowed up so much sound.

And that subwoofer filtering cannot be understood until it is heard. Before I felt like I was only hearing a lot of really deep bass. Now I am hearing a lot of mid and upper bass which has made the sound so much more exciting. Drums sound so cool now.

I'm so glad Denon included XT in a very affordable receiver. This has to be the best audio purchase I have ever made.

It's not just the change from 2EQ to XT, a lot of what you are hearing is the loudness contouring of Dynamic EQ. On top of the clarity of the better calibration, Dyn EQ is dynamically adjusting the frequency response to preserve the proper tonal balance that the mixer intended. That's why the bass seems so rich and full and a big part of the extra detail too, and it's why the "room feels dead" without it on.

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I'm pretty sure i know what you are saying. So basically it is restoring the volume level at each frequency to what it was intended to be, compensating for room acoustics.
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If anyone is in the market for an inexpensive but good quality 5.1 surround setup for < $250, and are in a smaller sized room, you may want to consider the Energy Take Classic 5.0 (on sale today only) along with the Monoprice 8" sub ....

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Anyone figure a way to play movies from a streamed server using the denon? It wont currently find any of my mp4 or m4v movies.... Music seems to play just fine. If I use my Xbox I can play my movie files fine. Limitation of the Denon?
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You'll need to stream to a 3rd party device (eg. Apple TV) connected to the the AVR.

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If someone could either point me to the right place or suggest an amplifer for my 3312, I've been baving the flashing red light issue. I have older polk 4 ohm front speakers that I think are causing my avr to over heat or have another issue. The avr was fine for a couple months after I moved it to a more open location put a cooling fan on top. It started the flashing red light as soon as I turned it on yesterday. Seems just holding the power/stby button on when you turn it on, resets the sensor. I tried unplugging each speaker and resetting the sensor until it stayed on. Would set off after about 5-10 minutes. With fhe front unplugged, it stayed. on. I plugged one side in for about half an hour, then both and it stayed on. Little strange, but I guess it must be the fronts causing a problem. Any help on finding an amp that doesn't cost a fortune would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Is there a sub in your setup? If yes, do you have the FL/FR speakers set to SMALL/80hz as recommended? Is the "red" light flashing quickly (every 1/2 sec) or a little slower (every 2 sec)?

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Seems to be the 1/2 sec. Really looks like every sec. The fronts are set to small and 80 Hz x-over. There is a powered sub. The polk fronts are older rti-5 I think. I tried to following the recommended setup listed in this thread.
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jd smoothie: I am using a media streaming server device...

I am using a Western Digital Live Device. The HD version, not the TV version. But again, it works fine with my PC's and Xbox, just not the Denon. It says the Western Digital Live has an itunes media server built in.
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Read a review over on another site and they said Denon have poor video performance. Any truth to this before making a purchase decision?

http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-2112ci-av-receiver

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Seems to be the 1/2 sec. Really looks like every sec. The fronts are set to small and 80 Hz x-over. There is a powered sub. The polk fronts are older rti-5 I think. I tried to following the recommended setup listed in this thread.

If this only occurs at louder volumes (ie. > -20db) then it is likely a result of the low ohm speakers, although also be sure to check the wire integrity from the back of the AVR to each speaker to ensure there are no wires touching another speaker post or that the speaker wire casing hasn't been somehow split open. For an amp recommendation, the Emotiva XPA-2 is often recommended.

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Read a review over on another site and they said Denon have poor video performance. Any truth to this before making a purchase decision?
http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-2112ci-av-receiver

As the 2112CI doesn't do any upscaling/deinterlacing (feature of only 2312CI and 3312CI), the clipping issue discussed in the article was resolved with a firmware update a few months after initial release. That review was apparently done on a non updated unit.

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As the 2112CI doesn't do any upscaling/deinterlacing (feature of only 2312CI and 3312CI), the clipping issue discussed in the article was resolved with a firmware update a few months after initial release. That review was apparently done on a non updated unit.

Thanks. Another question. I noticed the receivers have a Ethernet jack. Is there a way to have wireless on the receiver? My router/cable modem is not in my family room where the receiver will be.

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Please review post #3 of this thread to include the following information on connecting to a home network ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_G2

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jd smoothie: I am using a media streaming server device...
I am using a Western Digital Live Device. The HD version, not the TV version. But again, it works fine with my PC's and Xbox, just not the Denon. It says the Western Digital Live has an itunes media server built in.

There have been a number of owners posting using their WD Live (although don't recall if TV or HD version) so if setup correctly, it should work. Suggest using the "Search This Thread" feature listed at the top and bottom of each page with the keywords "WD Live" to review the posts to see if you can glean any useful information from them.

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Concerning the flashing red light problem, I use a 5.1 setup. Would reassigning the surrounds to dual drive the fronts help any? The fronts do have an internal amp. Not sure if it drives all the internal speakers or just the internal subs. I assume dual driving the speakers wouldn't help.
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Correct, it won't help as it won't provide any more power. The internal speaker amps likely only drive the speaker's sub. Denon 33XX and below models can generally drive 4-ohm speakers at average volume (ie. -20db/60) without issue; however, as they are only designed to power 6-16ohm speakers, generally go into protection mode when raised much above that volume level.

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jd smoothie: I am using a media streaming server device...
I am using a Western Digital Live Device. The HD version, not the TV version. But again, it works fine with my PC's and Xbox, just not the Denon. It says the Western Digital Live has an itunes media server built in.

There have been a number of owners posting using their WD Live (although don't recall if TV or HD version) so if setup correctly, it should work. Suggest using the "Search This Thread" feature listed at the top and bottom of each page with the keywords "WD Live" to review the posts to see if you can glean any useful information from them.

just to be 100% clear silvershark -- the receiver itself CANNOT stream video, period. What JD is saying is that you stream the video to the WD Live box which will then output a normal video signal to the receiver.

You CANNOT use the WD Live as the "server" and stream it to the receiver via the receiver's DLNA interface.

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Maybe I should just hook my 20 yr Kenwood sterio receiver to power the fronts. I had no problem powering them at any volume.
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