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post #31 of 1989 Old 06-14-2011, 05:19 AM
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Someone already mentioned the 98 vs 96 dB S/N. How significant is that?
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Someone already mentioned the 98 vs 96 dB S/N. How significant is that?

IMO, not much. But in a quiet room, listening to a quiet selection (so the gain knob is turned up loud but the music played is still soft), it could be the difference between a non-existent background noise hiss to a barely-noticeable background noise hiss. Of course that all depends however on just how quiet your location and selection are. Very quiet passages on a classical piece on a CD recorded with very high dynamic range, with the gain knob turned up high, ... MIGHT could tell a difference.... IF you had them side-by-side for A/B comparison. Certainly for listening to a movie or rock music or anything of the sort, no, I'd strike a 98dB to 96dB noise difference off my list of "things worth worrying about."

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I have been in recording studio environments where the difference between 96 and 98 dB S/N is readily apparent. The general rule of thumb in studios is to spec everything in the signal chain at 102 dB S/N in order to ensure that the recording's noise floor is below that of any gear likely to be used in reproduction.

In my living room, there is no chance that such a noise floor difference would be audible without me unplugging my DVR, my fridge, and blocking all the traffic up the street. 96 dB is fine. I just question if the lower noise floor on the newer model implies that they have possibly upgraded some of the other components in some positive way.

As near as I can tell, other than the extra 15 wpc (and for amps at this price point, I doubt that makes any relevant difference in my room), the only noticeable difference is the current feedback preamp in the 7005. On paper, this sounds like something I would want, certainly more than any extra features. But does it make any relevant difference?

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Note that the official spec sheet posted on the Marantz site indicates that the sr6006 has a s/n ratio of 100dB. 100dB is also listed for the sr5006 and the Denon "cousins" of these receivers.

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http://us.marantz.com/DocumentMaster...r_Receiver.pdf

For these reasons, I suspect that 100dB is the correct number. If true, this would be better than the 7005.
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Why would I want to buy the SR6006 over the SR5006? The features are about the same. 10W/channel more (wow, huge). a phono input and a couple extra other input which I would never use. I guess 2.1 preout is ok, but preouts for mains plus center seams better for HT. Or am I missing something? Are the amps different?
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Why would I want to buy the SR6006 over the SR5006? The features are about the same. 10W/channel more (wow, huge). a phono input and a couple extra other input which I would never use. I guess 2.1 preout is ok, but preouts for mains plus center seams better for HT. Or am I missing something? Are the amps different?

Those alone area reasons enough for me. I have a turntable and I also have external amplification.
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I see a difference with the 7005 is the HDAM:

HDAM®

"What is the HDAM®?" you might ask. A good question, since at around the same time, some other pretty highly respected manufacturers began using them. I think HDAM® stands for "High Definition Amplification Module," which doesn't explain much. Just to rev the suspense up a notch, Mark Levinson and Musical Fidelity are using HDAM® type circuits as well, though they might call them something elsebecause the registered term "HDAM®" was first used by Marantz...

For the 7005 the SNR is 96 in analog but it says 102 db in Digital. Whereas the others are 98 (everything?)

Anyway what about the 6005? does anyone have it? I think it could have a good price now. The only missing thing is network but I already have plenty of devices with that network thing.

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The 06 model offers 2 HDMI outputs instead of one. That would be a big thing for me, but it may not matter in your case.
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Looking forward to a review guys. I liked my old Marantz 8200, but had to replace it when everyone went HDMI. I have an Onkyo now that is a bit much for my Klipsch speakers, so I'm hoping the 6006 will get me back to the warm sound I enjoyed before.

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Oh - I've read the SR7005 can read flac files over USB, can the SR6006? If so, I'd like to hear about what would be better to hook up my USB files to - my OPPO93, or the SR6006? Which one has the better user interface/performance?

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Spoke to Marantz USA customer service. They "have no idea when it will be available"
That sucks
I want the two HDMI outputs active
May have to wait
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The 06 model offers 2 HDMI outputs instead of one. That would be a big thing for me, but it may not matter in your case.
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Spoke to Marantz USA customer service. They "have no idea when it will be available"
That sucks
I want the two HDMI outputs active
May have to wait
are both hdmi outputs active at the same time on the 06? has this been confirmed? if so, that's a very nice feature to have...

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according to their own specs yes both active all the time
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^^^

that's a big plus if you have a projector... allows a secondary "control screen" to be simultaneously used...

went and looked at the site to see if a manual was up yet... i probably shouldn't have, i want to cry when i see what they've done to the front panel...

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it helps also if you want a big flat panel for bright viewing then a pj for night. You can switch the active out on the 7005 but that makes remote setup a little more complex
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I'm still waiting for a new SR8000line. My hope for a SR8005 is long gone. Now I hope for a SR8006?... Marantz if your out there is the flagship 8000 line coming back in 2011?

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In 02' I bought and returned quite a few similar spec. receivers of several different brands. In the end, I spent a bit less and kept the Marantz SR7200.
(Yes... I know, but it had the sweetest vibe with my speaker setup

Thhis receiver and my DirectTV STB seem to not like each other, so I'm looking again at a new unit.

If anyone can help me find how to do another receiver reset, it may buy me more up time. (It's an oddball method, different from the norm and though posted on Marantz's web page last year, it doesn't exist anymore. It worked, though I've since lost the paper I wrote down on, and Marantz is quite unhelpful.

The phono input is a nice addition, but I use an old Model 2250b or an old tube unit for vinyl.

Also, do these new units allow HDMI pass-through, as in not needing to buy several HDMI hubs for direct TV viewing, with the receiver turned off.
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Even I am with the same dilemma. I thought of buying a sr7005, but after seeing the similar specs and looks of the sr7005 and sr6006, I too am wondering is it worth buying the 7005 or to go for the 6006.
Will there be any difference in performance, features and the sound quality between these two. people with knowledge about these receivers please help.

I don't know that I even understand the marketing - is the 6006 the replacement for the 7005? Is there to be a 7006?

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I don't know that I even understand the marketing - is the 6006 the replacement for the 7005? Is there to be a 7006?

the first digit is the "level" of receiver. the last digit (or last two?) is the "model". So in other words, SR5004 is the previous model on par with its newer brother the SR5005, and both are on par with their even newer brother the SR5006. The SR7005 is two steps "higher" than the SR5005, and both were released in the same year. The last two digits is not the actual year of release however, more of a "version number."

So the SR7005 is a model year "older" but also a "higher grade" receiver than the SR6006. The difficulty comes in that the SR6006 seems to now have many of the features that previously distinguished the SR7005 from the SR6005. And for those of us with "8" or "9" grade receivers (I have an SR8001), the SR6006 features are quite aluring but it is quite unclear what is being compromised in dropping from an 8xxx series to a 6xxx series.

It's been even LONGER since Marantz released a 9xxx series AVR. Whether because of too few customers, or because that 'level' of technology is just not that expensive anymore, I don't know. With all the Sr7005 features making their way into the SR6006 space, it makes me wonder if Marantz is having trouble justifying the 8xxx/9xxx series AVR's (and their higher pricepoints) or if it's for some other reason.

As a reference the 8100, 8200, 7100, etc receviers are the old numbering format. Anything with a "0" as the right-most digit is older than a non-zero right-most digit. So in the 8xxx range, they were released as follows: SR8000, SR8200, SR8300, SR8400, SR8500, SR8001, SR8002.

Also note that with these two number schemes at least, anything xxx1 or later includes HDMI. xxx0 does not. (SR8001 has HDMI, SR8500 does not)

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And for those of us with "8" or "9" grade receivers (I have an SR8001), the SR6006 features are quite aluring but it is quite unclear what is being compromised in dropping from an 8xxx series to a 6xxx series.

Thanks Dane - this is really what I was getting at. I have an 8200 that I really like the sound of, and I was considering a 7005 as a replacement. Then I saw the SR6006 come up on the site.

I don't know what people would say the quality differences are between 7005 and the 6006? What about the 6006 makes it at the "6" level and not the "7"?

I once heard someone say about BMW 3/5/7 series: "It's the same sausage that they cut to 3 different lengths"

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Is there any news of marantz sr7006 yet?
Will the marantz be dropping the 700x series aswell like they did to the 9 & 8 series??
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My take is in the ole days the difference between models were more hardware related and cost dependent. Nowadays it's become firmware related features and as such the cost is zero going forward. That's why the high-end features become available on the lower end models the following year.

Also now it's too expensive to build unique models so they have to use the same platform which again makes it difficult to justify a much more expensive model that appears identical to the lower priced ones. In some cases now they simply disable firmware features on the lower end model like this year's Panasonic Blu-ray players. With after market firmware you can enable several of the 210 features on the 110 that Panasonic disables.
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The link on Marantz page for 5006 now lists that it is available from Onecall and Onecall lists it as in Stock
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I got the SR5006 yesterday.
So far I am not impressed:
Used it for about 1 hour. It has locked up twice (only fix is to pull the plug), but I can't put new firmware on it.
It plays internet radio and Pandora OK, and tells me that there is a firmware update available. But when I try to upload the firmware, it just jumps from 480p to 720p while displaying "please wait, authenticating" (4 or 5 times over the course of 3 minutes), then says "connection failed".
It is stuck in a loop - Please wait...Update Retry...Connection Failed.
Reset it with Power + Display + Zone Select. Still stuck in the same loop.
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I got the SR5006 yesterday.
So far I am not impressed:
Used it for about 1 hour. It has locked up twice (only fix is to pull the plug), but I can't put new firmware on it.
It plays internet radio and Pandora OK, and tells me that there is a firmware update available. But when I try to upload the firmware, it just jumps from 480p to 720p while displaying "please wait, authenticating" (4 or 5 times over the course of 3 minutes), then says "connection failed".
It is stuck in a loop - Please wait...Update Retry...Connection Failed.
Reset it with Power + Display + Zone Select. Still stuck in the same loop.
Not that your experience thus far inspires confidence, but did you find it online or in a local dealer?
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Man those are the ugliest receivers I seen in my entire life, it is something that is from the 80's/90's
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I would expect a 7006. I would like to think Marantz will want a 9.2 AVR with Audyssey MultiEq XT32. I am hoping for one anyways! There are a lot of features they could add to make a 7000 and 8000 series AVR this year.

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Man those are the ugliest receivers I seen in my entire life, it is something that is from the 80's/90's

To each his own. I think they look great.
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Just ordered the 6006 was wondering if anyone had one yet
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Just ordered the 6006 was wondering if anyone had one yet

I just placed my order also from Vanns. They don't list it on their website, but they are selling a few through Amazon. Should have it by Tuesday of next week. Will post my experience upon arrival.

I was debating between the Marantz sr6006, the Onkyo 809, and the Denon 3312ci. I chose this for overall features and I like the look of it. It also matches the case I use for my HTPC. It helped reading the reviews of other models of Marantz and impressions on sound quality. I hope I made the right choice.
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