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ONKYO TX-NR809 vs the TX-NR709? Is the 809 worth the money? I know it has more power and actually might run cooler because it's larger and has extra cooling but is it worth the extra moo-la?
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that's some you'd have to decide in regards to your budget.

You also need to provide a little more info.

1. Size of your room?
2. What speakers are you using?
3. What is the price difference?
4. Will you be using a subwoofer too?

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that's some you'd have to decide in regards to your budget.

You also need to provide a little more info.

1. Size of your room?
2. What speakers are you using?
3. What is the price difference?
4. Will you be using a subwoofer too?

1. 12 by 20 but the TV is in the 12 foot area. I sit 10-12 ft away from the TV.
2. I'm thinking of buying the Onkyo SKS-HT870 Home Theater Speaker System
or a Polk or Mirage 5.1 Sat speaker set.
3. $200
4. Yes.

*Also the receiver will be in an enclosed cabinet of an expensive entertainment center with a mesh screen.
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From looking at the comparison chart at Onkyo USA, the two significant differences that stand out to me are more sophisticated video processing and 2 HDMI outputs on the 809 (apart from the power difference--not great enough to matter on spec, though the amp design and power supply seem more robust on the 809).

For me, the choice is clear because of the 2 HDMI outputs. The video processing side may be of benefit (depends on a lot of factors) but I would want 2 HDMI outputs to avoid relying on the switchbox I use now. My switchbox is fine because it is the only thing in the path between the various HDMI sources and my 2 displays. However, adding a second repeater (a receiver) between the sources and displays seems like I'd be asking for trouble, given HDMI handshake issues.

Either one will likely run pretty warmly, so make sure you have sufficient ventilation in your cabinet.

If I had only one display, I'd likely opt for the 709. But with a PJ and a monitor, I'd go with the 809 (as it is 200$--were it 500$, I'd take a chance on my switchbox or go with another AVR with 2 HMDI outputs).

Edit: The comparison chart shows only one HDMI output for the 709 but the rear photo shows 2. If the photo is correct (not always the case on websites), then my own choice would become the 709. It seems a visual inspection of a unit is in order.

Edit again: Just checked the manual. Seems like the 709 does have 2 HDMI outputs.
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Bump... any other thoughts on these? Is the extra 100 dollars worth it?
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Its now only $50 most places, so you'd be crazy not to just get the 809.
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Right, you have convinced me. Thanks
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Guess I better jump on the 809 also even though may be a tight fit to go where my 705 is at.709 would fit but like wife said why only go up 10 watts when you can go up another 25 for $50 more.The Yamaha 1000 would fit for same price but it's only 110 watts.
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yes newegg 649.00 for the 709 its what i recieved today ,newegg was out of stock on the 809 when i placed my order to today i got my 709 today 50.00 difference.

ah cry i just keep the 709 , to much pain shipping it back

any hoot newegg policy This item is not eligible for a refund RMA.Exchange only for same item within 30days.

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I checked amazon and newegg. The price difference is more than $200. Looks like TX-NR709 price has come down a lot. So looks like if I get Onkyo, I will get the TX-NR709 now.

However, I can get a really good price on Denon and Yamaho. How would Denon AVR2312CI or yamaha RXA1000 compare with the TX-NR709?

My current setup is a 5-yr old Onkyo home theatre. I want to replace just the receiver and keep the Onkyo speakers. I am not an audiophile. My main requirement is to have at least 4 HDMI that are not pass thru. Network with ethernet would be a plus to stream music from my PC or USB hard drive or NAS.
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Just be patient, the 809 has been on sale for $699 like a dozen times in the last month from 5 online retailers.

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I've been playing my 809 hard the last couple of days and it has yet to feel hot to me. Warm, certainly, no more than an Arcam AVR350 I was using. Good ventilation is key, of course. I don't know how warm the older ones ran, but with all the comments it must have noticeably greater than this beast.
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how is the Denon AVR2312CI compare to 709 or 809? I can get a really good deal on the Denon right now.
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how is the Denon AVR2312CI compare to 709 or 809? I can get a really good deal on the Denon right now.

The major omission to the 2312 is the lack of Preamp Outputs. It would be a deal breaker for me, but if you are quite confident that adding an outboard amplifier and or switching to more difficult to drive Speakers is not in the cards, it might be worth doing. Crazy that the ROW 2312's have Preamp Outputs, but as they lack the CI Features and name, at least there is a rationale. I would still prefer a ROW 2312...

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how is the Denon AVR2312CI compare to 709 or 809? I can get a really good deal on the Denon right now.

Check around for the Denon 3311. It has preamp outputs and you might be able to find one for the same price as the 709. I got an open box for 530 but Amazon went up 200 for some reason. It will continue to come down until they sell out I believe. The lack of preamp outputs on the 2312 is a misstep by Denon in my opinion. It makes the 2312 almost a pointless model to me. The 2312 should have Audyssey DSX and preamp outputs to compete with the 709. If you don't need preamp outputs, the 2112 is the way I would go.
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