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post #631 of 6038 Old 08-11-2011, 10:25 AM
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I'm planning on upgrading to either the 809 or 709. Please help me decide.

Is it worth the additional cost for the 809. I know a sales manager at my local ABC that always gives me a smoking deal. If I go this route I will also need to reconfigure my AV rack (additional cost) because of the size and weight of this beast.

Reading this thread I don't think I will be using the video processing on either unit. Most likely just "Through" or "Direct". I'm still a little comfused with the pass through options.

Is it worth the extra $$$ for features I may not need or use?

Thanks for your help.

The 709 doesn't sound as open as the 809. It sounds as though your kit will resolve the difference. Sound is not just about the power rating. The 809 sounds much better than the 808. The additional features are just icing.
The 609, while very good for the price, is budget kit and sounds like it.

You will probably end up changing video modes based upon source material. Direct or Through is a good default to choose, IMO.

I really like the ability to pass through HDMI to allow use of a source without powering up the AVR. I don't really need to watch the news in 5.1.

Unfortunately, it will only pass through a single selected HDMI source. I would prefer that it pass the most recently used.

Some users have had problems with the passthrough failing after the unit has been off. I had this problem when my 809 was connected to a modified sine wave UPS. When voltages needed bucking or boosting, the poor power quality caused my unit to fail. Powering up would restore everything. Plugging the AVR directly into the unconditioned wall socket temporarily solved the problem until I replaced the UPS with a pure sine wave unit.
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I really like the ability to pass through HDMI to allow use of a source without powering up the AVR. I don't really need to watch the news in 5.1.

Unfortunately, it will only pass through a single selected HDMI source. I would prefer that it pass the most recently used.

I'm not at home to check, but I do remember an option when setting the pass through while off to "Last." I have not had a chance to try it myself, but my assumption at the time was that it would do exactly what you're talking about.

Maybe someone else has tried it?
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yes there is a Last and an Auto feature with passthrough

seems like when i am passing through the cbl/sat then turn on the BD the BD takes over though, so gotta be somewhere in the 1-8 inputs it might go in order of lowest numbered input?
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The 809 might be overkill for htib speakers, but the price difference has often been slim. the 709 is a great receiver.

did you all see the recent review of the 609 on hometheatermag? put out numbers similar to a 100

Onkyo TX NR609:
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 81.0 watts
1% distortion at 95.1 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 77.7 watts
1% distortion at 88.9 watts
http://www.hometheater.com/content/o...-labs-measures

For reference - here's what the Onkyo TX NR5008 puts out:
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 79.1 watts
1% distortion at 95.5 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 78.7 watts
1% distortion at 94.6 watts

Sorry I should have clarified. I upgraded my HTIB speakers a few months ago to Acoustech PL-89 5.1.
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Cha ching, thanks!! Just ordered mine.

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Onkyo TX-NR809 at 6ave.com for $676 + free shipping (discount code AFL4COUPON)

I ordered mine 10 min ago...

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You might want to post in the HTPC section as my GTX460 does audio via HDMI no problem. Why are you using DVI? Is it because of the cable you have? Certainly you are not running HDMI to your PC display and audio to the 809 as a sound solution for PC viewing. Or maybe you are? Just curious.

Unfortunately my GPU doesn't have a HDMI out, so I need to use dvi from my pc. Apparently you can run audio through the dvi, but I haven't been able to get it to work.

Regardless, I don't think this is a solution I can have without buying a new gpu

I would prefer to have my pc video going to a monitor and the avr (then projector and tv). and my pc audio (optical/coaxial) going to the receiver too.

I don't know if the receiver can use both these signals at the same time? any experience?

Thanks again
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been reading this thread.as i needed to update my old receiver.
Yamaha HTR 5890.
I was able to get my local fry's to match the amazon price of $741.19.The sales rep was a real pain as he did not know how to use the internet or amazon.com and thought prime member was the only one's that could get the price.anyway lets not get to far in to that.My setup:
Of course Onkyo TX-NR809
JBL Northridge E-100 front
JBL Northridge C-35 Center
JBL Northridge E-30 surrounds
JBL Northridge E-20 surround back
JBL Northridge E-250p Sub
Directv HR20-100
PS3 40 gb
sony KDL-40xbr4
Harmony 880 remote.
i do have the front speakers bi-amped
as with the yamaha i had them bi-wired using both speakers A-B
that also allowed for the surround backs to be active at the same time.
i did run the full Audyssey MultEQ® XT and pretty happy with the sound from both directv and the ps3 playing mp3's or blu-ray's.even standard dvd's sound great.
for the price this is a great receiver.lots of Power and Features.
very very happy with it.as for the video setting i set to direct.the sony does a good job on its own.
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dvi does not accept audio only video.
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I would prefer to have my pc video going to a monitor and the avr (then projector and tv). and my pc audio (optical/coaxial) going to the receiver too.

I don't know if the receiver can use both these signals at the same time? any experience?

Thanks again

Hi slowly learning, this receiver you can assign optical or coaxial audio to a HDMI video (or Component, Composite).
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Onkyo TX-NR809 at 6ave.com for $676 + free shipping (discount code AFL4COUPON)

I ordered mine 10 min ago...


Hmm...came up at $959 after discount.
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I think it was for a limited time only. I was going to get one myself but changed my mind.

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I ordered my 809 yesterday from B&H - $721.49. Will arrive Monday!!!

Murphy's New Law --
"If it doesn't fit, force it.
If it breaks it was meant to"
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I think it was for a limited time only. I was going to get one myself but changed my mind.

Amazon has it for $704, 6th Ave-$702, and Vanns-$704. I thought when I jumped on the Amazon $699 deal a few weeks back, it would take longer to get back to that price range!
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I've been researching some of the information on UPSs and the issue may be with the version we are using. A UPS either reproduces a normal wall socket sine wave or it doesn't. Most of the ones you get from a normal consumer electronics store are not sine wave, they are stepped...including my J10. Some of the research I found suggests a power strip is better option to a stepped UPS.

Apparently some strips (like some Panamax) actually turn the power off completely with any voltage fluctuation and then come back on when the voltage stabilizes. This might be the best option if you don't have full sine UPS and want better protection.

I'm leaving mine on the UPS until the next audio drop then switching to a strip to test it out.

Ok so I left it on UPS for couple days and the sound dropped out of the standby pass-through again. Then I switched to a standard power strip, same thing, no sound after a couple days. Sound will only come back with an on-off cycle of the power strip. Looks like it is time to call onkyo, out of town for a few days so it will have to be next wk.

For the others experiencing the same issue, what type of cable box/source have you seen it with. I have a year old DTV HD box (no dvr).
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Have a morphine hd dvr. No problem "crosses fingers" since fw update
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Hy, I just got my Onkyo 809 and I cant get Audyssey to work, it does all the noise tests with all the speakers including the subwoofer but then the screen sais it is calculating and it stays like that forever.

My last receiver was an Denon 2808 also with Audyssey XT and works great, ¿does any one know what could be the problem? ¿is my unit falty?, I can still return it and have it changed for another receiver.

Thanks for your help, and excuse my english I am from Spain.
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Amazon has it for $704, 6th Ave-$702, and Vanns-$704. I thought when I jumped on the Amazon $699 deal a few weeks back, it would take longer to get back to that price range!

Just picked up the 809 from 6ave for $661.05. Time to retire my 875 that I bought from 6ave in 2007 for $998. At this price, I couldn't help myself.
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Hy, I just got my Onkyo 809 and I cant get Audyssey to work, it does all the noise tests with all the speakers including the subwoofer but then the screen sais it is calculating and it stays like that forever.

My last receiver was an Denon 2808 also with Audyssey XT and works great, ¿does any one know what could be the problem? ¿is my unit falty?, I can still return it and have it changed for another receiver.

Thanks for your help, and excuse my english I am from Spain.

Have you updated the firmware? Otherwise I'd suggest its faulty in some way. Mine only took a few seconds to calculate and save. Try calling Onkyo or exchanging for another one if its not the firmware. I updated the firmware first thing out of the box, so I dunno if the factory firmware has any Audyssey issues.
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Just picked up the 809 from 6ave for $661.05. Time to retire my 875 that I bought from 6ave in 2007 for $998. At this price, I couldn't help myself.

Wow, I wonder why the constant low prices? Its either the true price point of this receiver (great sales technique!) or they are trying to flood the market with newer receivers to wash away the bad taste from the last few models flaky hardware.
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alluu,
How did you get it for that price. The price on this receiver is moving fast.

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Used the coupon code mentioned in this thread. $688.59 before the discount


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Have you updated the firmware? Otherwise I'd suggest its faulty in some way. Mine only took a few seconds to calculate and save. Try calling Onkyo or exchanging for another one if its not the firmware. I updated the firmware first thing out of the box, so I dunno if the factory firmware has any Audyssey issues.

Thanks for the help, yes ive also tried with the latest filmware but it does the same thing, beginning to think that its a falty unit.

I have my front speakers conected to a amplifier Vincent SAV 150 through the preout outputs, this afternoon I will try to conect all the speakers directly through de Onkyo, see if that makes any diference, if not I will have to return it.
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Well, I finally pulled the trigger on this unit. Big River had it for $702 this morning, so I jumped since I can have it tomorrow for an additional $4.

I'm upgrading from a Denon 3808ci that got hit by lightning. I wasd never really pleased with the interface of the denon, so I am hoping this is better.
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does anyone know what bit rate Pandora streams at into this receiver? Just wondering because it sounds pretty good in my opinion.
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Hy, I just got my Onkyo 809 and I cant get Audyssey to work, it does all the noise tests with all the speakers including the subwoofer but then the screen sais it is calculating and it stays like that forever.

My last receiver was an Denon 2808 also with Audyssey XT and works great, ¿does any one know what could be the problem? ¿is my unit falty?, I can still return it and have it changed for another receiver.

Thanks for your help, and excuse my english I am from Spain.

Try updating the firmware, even if it is the same version. If that does not work it is probaby defective.
Your English is much better than my Spanish!
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So no one commented on my setup.
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So no one commented on my setup.

You did not ask for comment or have any question or problem that I could see.
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So no one commented on my setup.

you did not indicate that you were looking for comments. not sure what you want to hear, except that someone is impressed with it?
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thanks and you both are right i did not have a question or ask a comment.
but i do have a question now maybe you guys can help with.
on the old yamaha i had the crossover set to 80hz.this was suggested by another site a long while back dont remember the site.but was suggested for the speakers and the brightness of the yamaha.
after running the Audyssey MultEQ® XT setup it set it to 40hz.
also it set the LPF of LFE to 120hz (not sure what this does)
should i leave it or set it to 40hz? and if so what should the LPF of LFE be set to?
Thanks..
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