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post #121 of 6043 Old 07-12-2011, 10:01 PM - Thread Starter
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Turn off the AVR and use the through setting. No need for an AVR if you have no speakers. Am I missing something here? Just enable pass through.



Uuhhmm, like I said I must be missing something. How is the audio quality amazing with no speakers?

You caught that too. Damn good tv speakers, I guess.
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Mikes2cents, the problem is also visible in "through" mode which should only apply scaling to the picture. This is why I mentioned the firmware update as they changed something there (see firmware release notes). In addition, I feel that the default settings should do more or less nothing to the picture in "custom" mode as this was the case for the older TX-NR876/906 which do not have a "direct" mode or the ability to switch off video processing. You may not notice the problem for bright or very bright pictures, but for example if you watch "Sherlock Holmes" in the first few minutes all details in the dark areas are crushed using the default settings in "custom" mode on my unit. All looks fine in "direct" mode. It would be nice if someone who owns a TX-NR809 could check this using a similar scene.

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Just confirmed mine works the same. 'Direct" is exactly the same. If I switch to "Through" or "Custom" the picture becomes a little darker. I'm sure "Custom" can be adjusted to what ever you want, but not sure why "through" is producing a slightly darker image. I'm just leaving mine on "Direct".

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The 809 has a grounding screw on the back. should the receiver be grounded or does not it not make a difference?
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The 809 has a grounding screw on the back. should the receiver be grounded or does not it not make a difference?

I believe that would be for connecting the ground wire of a turntable.

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For those of you who missed the $699 Newegg deal... I decided to walk in to my local PC Richards store and figured I'd ask if they would price match. They did without question! It is shipping to their store from the warehouse so I should have it by Friday... couldn't be happier!
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For those of you who missed the $699 Newegg deal... I decided to walk in to my local PC Richards store and figured I'd ask if they would price match. They did without question! It is shipping to their store from the warehouse so I should have it by Friday... couldn't be happier!
ABT will also match the Newegg deal. $699 shipped to your door for the 809. Ask for Tim.
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Whats ABT, because I'd buy one right this minute for that price.

Is that ABT from chicagoland area lol , Figures I'll be hit with $70 in taxes.

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For those of you who missed the $699 Newegg deal... I decided to walk in to my local PC Richards store and figured I'd ask if they would price match. They did without question! It is shipping to their store from the warehouse so I should have it by Friday... couldn't be happier!
"I was just reading on AVS forum that you would price match newegg on its price on the Onkyo TX NR 809. Price of $699, is this correct"

Melinda: That is not correct.

John: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=125

Melinda: We only match prices of other brick-and-mortar locations.

John: Ok then, thanks.


As for ABT here is what they had to say

"[Kevin R] yes but that person didn't just order the reciever. it was part of a custom deal
[Kevin R] were you just buying the receiver?
Me Yes only receiver
[Kevin R] yeah, the only reason we matched it was because that person was buying a bunch of other products so the money that was lost was made up

So don't get to excited. Both places a no go.

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I received the newegg price from ABT and I only bought the receiver. Try a different sales person?
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Some unexpected good news. Onkyo is adding Spotify to its net services via a firmware update to all the 2011 receivers (that means tx-nr809).
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Actually I expected that about Spotify, now if I could just get someone to match newegg price so I could actually buy one.

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Abt ftw...
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Did you buy one from ABT for that price? WTF. They shot me down yesterday

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Just did this morning...
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Did you just buy the receiver or other things as well. And did they match newegg.

On the phone again with ABT, getting mini run around. They have a lot of Tim's they said, so now Im stuck with whomever on the phone. Sigh Ok maybe I talked them into it lol. This is crazy/fun, not.

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Just the receiver. And, yes... Matched the NewEgg weekend price.
I mentioned what the price was on the weekends and that I was unable to get it 'cause I kept missing out due to them selling out so quickly.

Oh, and the guy that did it for me was Paul Willis @ 847.544.2776
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It's ok I finally convinced them to come down from the normal price. Just took awhile, plus a little extra hassle for me since I live IN Illinois, so I had it shipped to sister in Iowa to avoid tax making it a deal killer for me. Should be all good , I'm not holding my breath with my luck lately.

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OK, it is almost tomorrow and perhaps another egg $699 deal. In light of recent Onkyo QC issues I am wary. Can any owners comment on the clicking thing Onkyo has had a problem with when watching cable channels that rapidly switch sound fields during commercials? My Elite receiver simply switches silently though the display tells you it is happening. Not sure I could be happy with a clicky unit. Any owner observations would be greatly appreciated as I am on short final on an AVR purchase. Thanks.
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Oh I don't think Onkyo see's that as a problem. It's just how the hdmi works and how it changes sound fields. My 876 that just died(hdmi board...) clicked when changing sound fields. Well I guess it didn't bother me cause I don't have cable for it to cause that problem so.

Mine shipped today so I'll be giving my feedback on MANY MANY features. This has been out for bargain basement prices. I got newegg price from ABT days ago, yet there is very little reviews/feedback on this product line still. Anyway look for run down shortly from me anyway.

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Oh I don't think Onkyo see's that as a problem. It's just how the hdmi works and how it changes sound fields. My 876 that just died(hdmi board...) clicked when changing sound fields. Well I guess it didn't bother me cause I don't have cable for it to cause that problem so.

When I first purchased the 808 it would click when changing. However, once I ran the Audyssey setup it stopped.

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OK, it is almost tomorrow and perhaps another egg $699 deal.

What I did is setup a price watch (alert) on the Onkyo 809 when it reaches a certain price. Newegg will send you an email when it's at or below that price.

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it is $699 again.
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Yep, I just confirmed the egg does indeed have it at that price.
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Yep, I just confirmed the egg does indeed have it at that price.

And bought! Will serve as a replacement for my TX-SR606 in my home theatre. The 606 model will move into my living room to provide HDMI switching duties for my Blu-Ray player, cable box, etc.
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Just pulled the trigger on the 809 from Newegg as well! I also used a 10% e-mail coupon, but it had a max value of $20 off. Would have been much cooler for a full $70 off, but I'm definitely not complaining after that deal!
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Hi,

I bought this receiver from NewEgg for $699. I am yet to decide on speakers for this receiver. I have a 13x26 living room with speaker cables in the wall for a 5.1 speaker system. Is the below system a good option for this receiver.

Energy 5.1 Take Classic Home Theater System

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Do you think this will be an audio quality upgrade over my Yamaha RX-V1800? Specifically, I mean audio quality for 2 channel music as well as Blu-ray movies. I listen to CDs, SACD, DVD-Audio, as well as Blu-ray. My Blu-ray player is the Oppo BDP-83, and the only connection to the receiver is HDMI. For SACD, I send DSD over HDMI.

The reason I ask is that I have never been that impressed by the decoding of the 1800 on movies. It does not seem to have that much separation of channels, and the center channel in particular seems weak and lacks dialog clarity, no matter how high I set the level. And, yes, I have tried several different center channel speakers. I am wondering if the Burr Brown decoders on the 809 can make a discernable difference or improvement. The 1800 was one of the first generation of receivers able to do DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD.

Also, the best way I can describe the sound quality of the Yamaha is "analytical" or "sterile". I mean, it is clean and all, but I just rarely feel any emotional impact from music or movies. I also do not get much dynamic impact from it, despite using a separate power amp. I am wondering if the culprit may be the pre-amp section and/or the quality of the DACs and DSP section.

My speakers are Front: Legacy Signature II towers, Center: Paradigm cc570v3, Surrounds: PSB Image T4, Sub: Outlaw.

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At 699, it's in my cart, just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

How much space would I need in an open TV/component stand? There's about 10" of space between the shelf and the glass plate above it. Which gives about 2 1/4" of clearance. That should be enough room in an open style stand, right? Here's a link to a somewhat similar stand:

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I bought the receiver this week locally for $850 plus tax. I just saw it on newegg and the local place said to come in for a refund on the difference. so that's not bad. I'd rather eat the cost of the tax and not have to disconnect everything, return it, order on newegg, wait for it to come in, and then reconnect it all again. So it will be a difference of $40-50 on taxes, well worth it to me.

Right now, I have the receiver connected to a Pioneer speaker setup. You may be aware of the speakers Andrew Jones designed for Pioneer. I have towers in the front, their center, and towers for my rears. Sounds awesome for $500 in speakers!!!

But the Pioneers are going in my basement setup for the kids to play video games, music, and just have music when hanging with their friends. Pioneer VSX-23 receiver will be used down there. For the 809, my new setup will be Jamo 606 5.0 setup from Vann's which is also $500, but with a twist. I also ordered the E 8sur.2 rears that were another $200. For my configuration in my living room, these types of speakers work better for me than bookshelves.

Soooo...the small book shelf speakers that come with the 5.0 setup will probably be used as front height or front wide. Just wondering if it will sound any better than a straight 5.1 setup with the height or wide speakers in place. I will try both with the cables run over the sheetrock. If either will be permanent, I will run speaker wire behind the walls like all my other speakers. The sub, btw, is an elemental designs a3-250 ported sub. Sounds really good in the last 4 or 5 setups it was used in.

My LR is 15x45' but the area where my tv/movie/music listening takes place is 15x20 with 8' ceiling. Do you think wide/hi/none would be best?

Thanks and sorry for the long post, but I love to write and give detailed info whenever I do.
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I bought the receiver this week locally for $850 plus tax. I just saw it on newegg and the local place said to come in for a refund on the difference. so that's not bad. I'd rather eat the cost of the tax and not have to disconnect everything, return it, order on newegg, wait for it to come in, and then reconnect it all again. So it will be a difference of $40-50 on taxes, well worth it to me.

Right now, I have the receiver connected to a Pioneer speaker setup. You may be aware of the speakers Andrew Jones designed for Pioneer. I have towers in the front, their center, and towers for my rears. Sounds awesome for $500 in speakers!!!

But the Pioneers are going in my basement setup for the kids to play video games, music, and just have music when hanging with their friends. Pioneer VSX-23 receiver will be used down there. For the 809, my new setup will be Jamo 606 5.0 setup from Vann's which is also $500, but with a twist. I also ordered the E 8sur.2 rears that were another $200. For my configuration in my living room, these types of speakers work better for me than bookshelves.

Soooo...the small book shelf speakers that come with the 5.0 setup will probably be used as front height or front wide. Just wondering if it will sound any better than a straight 5.1 setup with the height or wide speakers in place. I will try both with the cables run over the sheetrock. If either will be permanent, I will run speaker wire behind the walls like all my other speakers. The sub, btw, is an elemental designs a3-250 ported sub. Sounds really good in the last 4 or 5 setups it was used in.

My LR is 15x45' but the area where my tv/movie/music listening takes place is 15x20 with 8' ceiling. Do you think wide/hi/none would be best?

Thanks and sorry for the long post, but I love to write and give detailed info whenever I do.
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