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post #211 of 4021 Old 08-18-2011, 04:35 AM
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Hi

What's missing? Do you feel the sound is very diffrent from SC-27?
What about the power?, do you feel this is less powerful or the same as your old SC-27? I got a SC-37, and maybe look to change it with a SC-57/SC-55.

Hi, please quote it correctly

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FYI! Just picked up new SC-57 from BB using 12% mobile coupon. Have not hooked it up yet but decided to upgrade after having the VSX-52 for a few weeks. Nice sound but felt like something was missing versus my old SC-27.

here he(or she) says, that the SC-57 is picked up, but is NOT ready hooked up, but he(or she) had bought a VSX-52 which was nice, but there was something missing versus his(or her) old SC-27.
So there is no conclusion made in comparision with the SC-57 to the SC-27 yet.

I think you misread it

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So there is no conclusion made in comparision with the SC-57 to the SC-27 yet.
I think you misread it

Hi

Yeah, I did misread it. I see that now.
I just hope SC-57 is sounding better or the same as my SC-37, and is as powerful also. Really looking forward to hear and test it myself.
But here in Europe it will not be released until September I think, that's a long and painful time to wait.
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Yeah exactly
I've asked my retailer for a price for the SC-LX85(European and Japanese version of the SC-57) to buy it when it is released
The delivery date is still unkown for my retailer

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I'm already suffering of the wait as we speak ;-)
Will be interesting at some point in time to list the key differences between US and EU models... Video capabilities I guess?
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I'm already suffering of the wait as we speak ;-)
Will be interesting at some point in time to list the key differences between US and EU models... Video capabilities I guess?

Probably nothing except voltage and framerate.

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Sent an email to Pioneer?

What are the specific sizes of the capacitors in the Pioneer SC-35 and the SC-37?

What are the specific sizes of the capacitors in the Pioneer SC-55 and the SC-57?

Example: 27,000uF/75V capacitor, you know what I mean, right

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What are the specific sizes of the capacitors in the Pioneer SC-55 and the SC-57?

Example: 27,000uF/75V capacitor, you know what I mean, right?

Why is this important and why is this cross posted in the SC-37 thread?
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FilmMixer,

Can you let us know if you can adjust the EQ as you listen to music. Or does it cut the audio out when doing so as with previous models.
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Can somebody advice if I should keep my brand new SC35 or get a new SC55/57.

thanks
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Why is this important and why is this cross posted in the SC-37 thread?

Because it is directly relevant to the audio quality of the receiver, that's why.
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Because it is directly relevant to the audio quality of the receiver, that's why.

There are so many more things that contribute to that subjective qualifier that one individual component won't make that much difference.

If he wants to know the answer and Pioneer CS won't give or doesnt know the answer, he can purchase a service manual to find out if that is the information he needs to make an informed purchase.

I've never once needed to know the answer to that question to determine the subjective quality of an AVR......

They are the sum of their parts.....

And unless he has an intimate knowledge of how the newly designed D3 amps work, what their power needs are, how the power supplies are designed, it is a fairly useless indicator of how these AVR's perform.
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Film Mixer, wrote

"Why is this important and why is this cross posted in the SC-37 thread?"

Really? Seriously? You don't know, Well O.K.

2 model years, 2 models per year, 2 threads

and what Osamede wrote "Because it is directly relevant to the audio quality of the receiver, that's why."

and I thank you sir.

and Film Mixer,

I answered your concern in the 37 thread.

LOL good god.
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Film Mixer,

Really? Seriously? You don't know, Well OK

2 model years, 2 models per year, 2 threads

I answered your concern in the 37 thread.

LOL good god.

I've owned 15 AVR's over the last 3 1/2 years (Pioneer SC 09, 27, 37,57, Denon 5308, 4308, 4310, 4311, Onkyo 905, 5008, Sherwood R-972, Yamaha Z11, Z7, A3000, and and Anthem MRX 700....)

I think I have a good idea of what contributes most to the overall subjective sound quality of modern AVR's.

On top of that, I've spent 21 years working in world class studios evaluating gear, includimg amps.

I don't think that information is needed to determine overall quality.

That's all.

As a new member, you'll learn that you can ignore posts you don't like, work on becoming a productive, contributing member of an incredibly intelligent and thoughtful enthusiast community, or continue to reply to others in a sarcastic tone after only two weeks here.

Your choice.
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Can somebody advice if I should keep my brand new SC35 or get a new SC55/57.

thanks

Hello,
I would keep the 35 provided you have a PS3 or other Network Capable Source Component that will allow you to Stream Music Files from your PC.

As the 35 has the identical Amplifier Stage as the SC-37 and the 37 did fantastic when Bench Tested, I would go with a known quantity. While the Pioneer D3 Design well may be as good or better as the B&O ICE Power Modules that they replace, they are so new that there have not been any Professional Reviews. And I personally prefer the Industrial Design on the 35/37, but that of course is subjective.
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U JUST TROLLING FilmMixer OR WHAT?

Quote FilmMixer,
"I don't think that information is needed to determine overall quality."

OMG, That's hilarious as well as so misleading to average peeps reading here.
In all my years of EE I never LOL'ed so hard

I agree with you, Your replies were and now are a total waste of my time.

A new guy, LOL U crack me up, LOL

Your electrical expertise from what you have written here now and your tone is absurd.

LOL I can't stop LOL'ed

Go read the Yamaha Z-11 thread and learn something about caps and power supplies.
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U JUST TROLLING FILM GUY OR WHAT?

A new guy,LOL U crack me up LOL

Your electrical expertise from what you have written here now and your tone is absurd.

You still haven't answers my original question.

Why does this information about the cap specs helps you to determine the quality of this AVR?

If they are the same as, let's say, the Onkyo 5008, does that directly translate into superior audio performance mated to the newer D3 amp design?

Or to the other Pioneer SC lineup before it?

Can you answet those questions since you were the one who originally asked for the information, and then scolded Pioneer for not responding to you in a manner and time frame you deemed appropriare?

What value do they need to be for you to be satisfied or of acceptable quality?

I'm not an EE.

I don't need to be one to subjectively evaluate gear, not do I find it necessary to compare individual components in order to know if something should, or will, sound "good."

As a matter of fact, I find the placebo of such knowledge a detriment in giving a piece of gear a fair, level playing field chance. (Just as I try and ignore weight, subjective build quality, and price, for example....)

I'm a huge enthusiast that happens to put his money where his mouth is regarding AVR's....

I assure you after almost 12 years on these boards I am not trolling.

Based on your 15 or so posts, the jury is still out on you, IMO.

And it isn't Film Guy.... It's Film Mixer or Marc......
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Wow FilmMixer, you're much nicer then I would've been!

How are you liking your SC-57? Any big downsides, or issues. I might pull the trigger on one this weekend.

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Go read the Yamaha Z-11 thread and learn something about caps and power supplies.

Why? I owned the Z11, and did a ton of research on it before I purchased... It is a great piece of gear, is built like a tank and pushes about as much as you can out of a piece of gear that runs off a single 20 amp circuit.

IMO the Pioneers sound better...
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Wow FilmMixer, you're much nicer then I would've been!

How are you liking your SC-57? Any big downsides, or issues. I might pull the trigger on one this weekend.

Thanks

I need to do a write up over the weekend, but sufficed to say I am thrilled with the 57.

I couldn't put my finger on what I was hearing that I liked. After much more listening, it clicked.

It's very dynamic without the brighness I've experienced in the older SC models.

Listening to a lot of music, it is so readily appearent the differences in production technique and mastering styles. It's just smooth, much like the Anthem MRX (and even the D2/A5 combo I had a couple of years ago.)

I found the SC 37 not as discerning. That might be due to more experience with MCACC and how I set this up.

And of course YMMV.

At this point, however, I can recommend it without hesitation.
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Boy, I really shouldn't jump into this. But, FilmMixer is one of the most respected and knowledgeable posters here. I don't need to defend someone of his experience or knowledge, but there it is!

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U JUST TROLLING FilmMixer OR WHAT?

Quote FilmMixer,
"I don't think that information is needed to determine overall quality."

OMG, That's hilarious as well as so misleading to average peeps reading here.
In all my years of EE I never LOL'ed so hard

I agree with you, Your replies were and now are a total waste of my time.

A new guy, LOL U crack me up, LOL

Your electrical expertise from what you have written here now and your tone is absurd.

LOL I can't stop LOL'ed

Go read the Yamaha Z-11 thread and learn something about caps and power supplies.


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^^^

Well, it is highly entertaining. From what I can tell, audio777 is an EE, part time accountant (?), owns a wood-grained Pio from the 70's, can't spell worth a damn, and shops at Costco for electronics. I shop at Costco also but only buy cheese doodles and pie there.

Film Mixer on the other hand...
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It's very dynamic without the brighness I've experienced in the older SC models.

FM, Any guesses as to what would account for this? A change in MCACC perhaps?

Chris
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FM, Any guesses as to what would account for this? A change in MCACC perhaps?

Chris

Different amps and design I suspect.... According to Pioneer, these amps are simpler than the ICE modules.. Some times less is more.

I found the same type of difference going from the Denon 4310 to 4311 or Onkyo 905 to the 5008.

MCACC seems unchanged, I just set this up a little differently (I.e. EQ pro, etc..)
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Different amps and design I suspect.... According to Pioneer, these amps are simpler than the ICE modules.. Some times less is more.

I found the same type of difference going from the Denon 4310 to 4311 or Onkyo 905 to the 5008.

MCACC seems unchanged, I just set this up a little differently (I.e. EQ pro, etc..)

Interesting. For my own purposes, the Denon 4311 in preamp mode is better for my room/speakers/ears than the SC-09. I know you prefer MCACC to Audyssey though.

Are you going to CEDIA? I cannot make it but am intrigued with the upcoming Datasat and Seaton demo at the Conrad Hilton. Does Dirac Live interest you?
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Interesting. For my own purposes, the Denon 4311 in preamp mode is better for my room/speakers/ears than the SC-09. I know you prefer MCACC to Audyssey though.

Are you going to CEDIA? I cannot make it but am intrigued with the upcoming Datasat and Seaton demo at the Conrad Hilton. Does Dirac Live interest you?
The 4311 is a great product. Denon hit it out of the park......

No CEDIA. Work.
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Gotta pay for the toys somehow!
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I need to do a write up over the weekend, but sufficed to say I am thrilled with the 57.

I couldn't put my finger on what I was hearing that I liked. After much more listening, it clicked.

It's very dynamic without the brighness I've experienced in the older SC models.

Listening to a lot of music, it is so readily appearent the differences in production technique and mastering styles. It's just smooth, much like the Anthem MRX (and even the D2/A5 combo I had a couple of years ago.)

I found the SC 37 not as discerning. That might be due to more experience with MCACC and how I set this up.

And of course YMMV.

At this point, however, I can recommend it without hesitation.
Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated.
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I just picked up my SC-55 on Thursday (replacing a dinosaur - the VSX-26TX) and the sound quality is amazing. I ran into a few snags though:

With my old system I had HDMI-CEC enabled, and when I connected the components to the new receiver and the HDMI output to the TV, every time I turned on the blu-ray player or another component, the TV would switch to the input the device was last connected to (when connected directly to the television). Soo, I had to go back and turn off HDMI-CEC ("AnyNet" in Samsung nomanclature) since the SC-55 was passing the codes right on through to the set. Why the TV was remembering the old inputs rather than being intelligent enough to detect the commands coming in through HDMI1, I have no idea.

Also, setting up was a bit of a pain in the neck - not the MCACC which was easy, then I tweaked the center channel (I'm replacing all my speakers with Klipsch - the JBL speakers were horribly dull but I don't have my klipsch center channel yet) to boost the highs a lot to come as close as possible to matching the front mains, using pink noise and an RTA. Time consuming, but easy enough.

The problems came in when setting up internet radio. I have it networked just fine; I elected to go hardwired since I already have a router on the stand as a wifi client for other components. Simple enough. I can connect using the AVNavigator and through iControlAV, so I know network connectivity is fine.

Here comes the problem: I tried setting up Rhapsody. I created a new Rhapsody account tonight, selected a long secure password and then went to configure the SC-55 to sign into my newly-created Rhapsody account. Here comes the first problem: I have to scroll through all the characters rather than select then from a grid. WTF? Don't Pioneer's software engineers know anything about human factors? So, I scroll through and go through the extremely tedious process of entering my username (email addy) and long secure password. "Invalid username or password." Okay, so I go back, and of course it doesn't retain what I entered, so I do it all over again, and double and triple check what I entered (it takes a good 7 minutes to enter the password via this stupid method) and it failed again. Next, I sign out of Rhapsody on my notebook, and sign in again to verify my password was correct. Check. I then went back into rhapsody account setup on the receiver and decided to try connecting a USB keyboard to save some time, and hopefully type the password in 2.5 minutes rather than 7 minutes. Sure enough the keyboard was recognized, but - get this - only the cursor keys are supported! You still have to scroll through the characters. What the F@&#?

So, I go through the tedium of entering the password yet again (what's the definition of insanity?) and same error. So, i change my password to a shorter, simpler password that takes only two minutes to enter. Same problem. So, I turn off the receiver and turn it back on and try again - same error (invalid username or password). I tried the Internet Radio stations and they work flawlessly. Streaming from Windows over DLNA works flawlessly (well, as flawlessly as Windows does anything ).

I checked for firmware upgrades - there are none. So, there are three (make that four) possibilities:

1. Rhapsody's network is down (but I can connect from the same internet connection using my laptop)
2. One or more hops between the receiver and my connection are down (nope; see above. I can connect on the same internet connection using my PC)
3. Pioneer shipped this model without testing it (DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!)
4. I have to wait a while before connecting the receiver to the service (unlikely)



After wasting over two hours trying to get this to connect to Rhapsody I am absolutely positive of three things:

1. Pioneer software engineers are geeks who know nothing of human factors (usability) and design product for geeks, not for real people.
2. Pioneer released this receiver without fully testing the feature set
3. I want to throttle the engineer who implemented keyboard support but decided to support ONLY the cursor keys. WTF?
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Why not find one article on the experience of hearing SC-57 ???

Not looking good
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