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Hi. I am looking for a 7.2 receiver. I have the Yamaha RX-867,667, or the A800 in mind. Which one would be the better one, or is there anything else that might be better? Really appreciate any help.
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Hi. I am looking for a 7.2 receiver. I have the Yamaha RX-867,667, or the A800 in mind. Which one would be the better one, or is there anything else that might be better? Really appreciate any help.

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Tough question.

You might want to give some details about what you need or what is important to you. All of the Yamaha's you list are good at what one might purchase them for.

Gather your priorities and wish-for's together. Then take a look at the two AVR discussions at the top of this AVR forum ("Sticky's") especially posts by MichaelJHuman. Then reconsider your question.

I am not meaning to be harsh at all. It is just that you'll get more useful discussion if you provide something for the knowledgeable ( NOT ME) on this forum to work with.

btw: All have great deals available now. Newegg has the 867 at below $400 with coupon code. That is like half of MSRP for a VERY capable unit. I wish that I could decide to spend the $$ to upgrade from my 765 right now...

Good luck.

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Between the three listed, I've yet to see a simple comparison between RX-V and Aventage, but the 867 is an obvious choice over the 667 (it's an up-model, and includes more features). If you browse the Aventage and the RX-V threads you can probably get an idea of what, if any, differences exist between the two (realize that the Aventage products *are* based on the RX-V components, they just target a different market segment, so there may be no differences that impact your real-world usage). Just to shake things up a bit more, I'd consider the RX-A700 as well - I've yet to see what really separates it from the V867 aside from Ethernet and a pair of spring clips (and from what I've read, the 867's Ethernet/IP features are somewhat sparse to begin with).

When you say 7.2, as Mkard has said, can you elaborate or define better what your usage is?
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I am going to use it for movies and gaming. I have a home theater system set up. I am currently using HK avr-745, but I have to change it because the 2nd sub input doesn't work.
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Also how is the denon 3311ci compared to the yamaha's
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Second sub "input" or "output"?

Have you tried resetting the unit?
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Second sub "input" or "output"?

Have you tried resetting the unit?

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..... but I have to change it because the 2nd sub input doesn't work.

All you need is a $3 RCA "Y" splitter cable from Radio Shack plugged in to the main sub preout to provide a 2nd sub preout.

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All you need is a $3 RCA "Y" splitter cable from Radio Shack plugged in to the main sub preout to provide a 2nd sub preout.

That works as long as you want to the same output from both subs. If you want each sub calibrated individually, you're SOL.
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Also how is the denon 3311ci compared to the yamaha's

I had looked at the 867 before going with the 3311. It stacks up well but there were a few features the 3311 had that I really wanted. Number 1) Audyssey MultEQ XT. It did a great job in my system and I'm glad I went with it. 2)I had a 3310 before so it was really easy to add the 3311. I didn't have to change my settings on my Harmony remote or anything. 3)The Denon has multiple crossovers. I have 2 12 subs, 1 on each side of my front speakers so I set the crossover on the fronts at 90hz or 100hz. I have a big center and my surrounds can go fairly low for bookshelfs so I set both of them to 60hz. With the Yamaha I would have to do all at 80hz or 100hz. So those are the reasons I went with the 3311. Both are good so I don't think you can go wrong with either so just have to figure out which one has the features and connectivity you need.
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I had looked at the 867 before going with the 3311. It stacks up well but there were a few features the 3311 had that I really wanted. Number 1) Audyssey MultEQ XT. It did a great job in my system and I'm glad I went with it. 2)I had a 3310 before so it was really easy to add the 3311. I didn't have to change my settings on my Harmony remote or anything. 3)The Denon has multiple crossovers. I have 2 12 subs, 1 on each side of my front speakers so I set the crossover on the fronts at 90hz or 100hz. I have a big center and my surrounds can go fairly low for bookshelfs so I set both of them to 60hz. With the Yamaha I would have to do all at 80hz or 100hz. So those are the reasons I went with the 3311. Both are good so I don't think you can go wrong with either so just have to figure out which one has the features and connectivity you need.

Is the multiple crossover required to have different frequencies for different speakers?
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All you need is a $3 RCA "Y" splitter cable from Radio Shack plugged in to the main sub preout to provide a 2nd sub preout.

I am already using that, but I feel the performance could be better if the thing worked by itself.
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That works as long as you want to the same output from both subs. If you want each sub calibrated individually, you're SOL.

AFAIK, none of the AVRs listed have that capability.

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I am already using that, but I feel the performance could be better if the thing worked by itself.

It won't.

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You might want to give some details about what you need or what is important to you.


I need something that has good power, latest audio decoding formats such as TrueHD, or DTS-HD Master audio which all the receivers have. I am not sure of the benefits of the YPOA Multi-point measrement and if it is a big deal over the YPOA sound optimization, but I know that Audyssey is great. I don't remember if I am missing anything, but I am looking for a good Movie and Gaming experience.
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Is the multiple crossover required to have different frequencies for different speakers?

It just means that you can set the frequency of where the speaker passes the bass down to the subwoofer different on each speaker. On a Yamaha, it had to be one set number for every speaker. If your front speakers play down to 40 hz and your surrounds play down to 100 hz then you have to figure out one crossover to work for both of them. On the Denon you could set the surrounds crossover at 120 hz and the fronts at 60 hz or 80 hz. If all your speakers can play down to around the same range then that feature may not matter much to you.
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So if you had a Pioneer you would also have to set one crossover for both of them same as on the Yamaha?
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Yes pioneer also has one crossover for all speakers. Denon and Onkyo both use multiple crossovers.
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Yes pioneer also has one crossover for all speakers. Denon and Onkyo both use multiple crossovers.
So would you recommend the denon then? Any other good receivers come to your mind?
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I think the crossover thing just depends on speakers so if all your speakers are pretty similar the one crossover will work just fine. For my system I think multiple works better but I still considered a Yamaha 867 because it was a great deal. I love my 3311 and I am very happy I got it for such a great price. I don't know which would be a better option for you though. It really depends on your speakers and how much difference there is between the two receivers price wise. Also personal preference plays a big role because some people prefer YPAO over Audyssey.
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But we can narrow the decision down to the 867 and 3311Ci. Also are there any other major differences between the two.
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I think you've been given a fairly solid overview of the differences, if you want to "narrow" things down, go for it.

Like you've been told - depending on the speakers, subwoofer arrangement, room, etc will help influence which you should buy. If you have five of the same speaker, it won't make any difference, if you have a different type of speaker on every channel, it will make a bigger difference. Everything else is basically up to your aesthetic taste.
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But we can narrow the decision down to the 867 and 3311Ci. Also are there any other major differences between the two.

It looks like the a1000 is on sale for 600 at NewEgg so I would keep it on the table. The a1000, 867, and 3311 are all good receivers so right now it's just about figuring out which one has more features you need/want.
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Thanks everyone for your help. I will look at the denon if I can find a reasonable price in it , or otherwise I will get the 867 or 667.
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