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post #181 of 321 Old 11-03-2011, 03:42 PM
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Warren,
Just a thought, but how about selling the 5009 and picking up an 80.3 or the Onkyo Professional equivalent? Again, I realize you are pretty set as far as AVR/SSP's, but I really do also like Onkyo's new Industrial Design and the new Video Processor tandem is fantastic.
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what would be the advantage of that vs buying the Onkyo 5509 preamp?

I haven't seen the newest Integra.....did they change the face plate on those units as well?

Not that I am really that interested in buying another Onkyo product at this time..mind you


But my preamp/amp combo has seen the least change of anything I own traditionally

while I may change AVR's in other rooms of the house like underwear..I can say my main HT area has been separates for more than a decade...and the 5508..bought in April of this year..is only the third preamp I have owned

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Yes I agree I like the look of the sc37 the classic urishi finish. The last of its kind. Now the elites look similar to everything else outthere. reviews though are good. I actually am getting a very good deal on my 3009 from my Integra dealer. As I have had an unusual issue with the 50.3 he is taking it back and as I said before would have liked a 70.3 but even with a good deal more than I planned at this time and he is getting me a really good price on the 3009 I am comfortable with. I stgill believe it is great to have a local dealer to work with. They are very knowledgeable and back what they sell, and close by.

Close by is good thing

Interesting that your Integra dealer also carries Onkyo
I don't think I have ever seen that before

I also see that Magnolia Home Theater has Onkyo again...but I think only up to the 1009

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Close by is good thing

Interesting that your Integra dealer also carries Onkyo
I don't think I have ever seen that before

I also see that Magnolia Home Theater has Onkyo again...but I think only up to the 1009

Warren

He does not carry it as a regular thing but has access for cust requests, like nuts like me. Very good people and do what they can to please.

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Nobody pays MSRP. These units will be discounted. I paid $1150 for my 3008 which was about 45% off of MSRP.

Not knocking the 809, but the 3008/9 and 5008/9 are in another league entirely. They feature Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which is significant step above even XT especially if you run you mains full range and it really benefits users that run multiple subs. Also the higher units are true THX units. Select2Plus is okay in knowing you got the THX audio processes, but Ultra2Plus means the amps are very capable of driving difficult loads.

Where do you get such good discounts?

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mine was over 26 percent off list not bad for a new model. I was amazed at this new 3009. Love the new styling and beefy sound. tremendous amount of new settings a lot to learn but enjoying so far. I really think the Onkyo and integra line gives the most banf for the buck and still has a nice solid build . Two things I miss a printed manual and onscreen display on the sub outputs. I really thought the higher end units would have this. Still have to adjust a lot but my breif tryout of dts neo x does not blow me away. Still prefer dbIIx ausessey dsx, but again my time with it is breif so far. Love the xt32 set up mode although xt is great you can really hear the difference with xt32. hope to see more activity on this thread.

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Where do you get such good discounts?

Check Neweggs weekend sales

They sold both the 3008 and 5008 for about 40-45% off retail almost every weekend in the past year

they did the same with the 3007/5007 the year before

I would speculate that they will discount the 3009/5009 at the same level at some point in 2012


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Thanks for the good info. I'll watch Newegg and I may talk to Magnolia as well - I used to have a good contact there.

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definately keep looking always good deals around on these.

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Any body with the 3009 or 5009 love to hear some of your experiences on some of the new features dts nex and sound of the new sound setting features like stereo 1,2,3 or multi channel 1,2, 3.

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Thanks for the good info. I'll watch Newegg and I may talk to Magnolia as well - I used to have a good contact there.

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Hello:

Sort of a silly question. For those of you running two subs when you hit the receiver display button does the channel info show 5.2 7.2 or 9.2 or are they showing .1 I had a 5008 a while back and I sort of rember it showing .2 am I nuts or what. thanks in advance. I will attribute this to age.

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I started this over in the 906 forum, but thought I'd flip it over here to the 5009 users for comment :
Question Latest news about my claim !!!!!!!!!
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Zabus - I had an electrical storm that apparently knocked out the HDMI and Component outputs - sent to Norman's Electronics for evaluation. They confirmed it, and said they will have to replace that particular module. The cost for repair is $1054. Don't know what my insurance company is going to do about that and the four TV's that also got Zapped to varying degrees (2 dead, 2 with 'issues'). Norman's said that it looked as though replacing that module should be a relatively 'clean' fix because of the high degree of modularity of the 906. I sure wish I had a high degree of confidence that nothing else is involved and that other issues will not pop up.

I also have 2 26" pine trees that have to come down near the house - $1000 each and the d--n insurance company will only pay $500 each.


Latest news Re: 5009
My Insurance company just told me they are offering a replacement (in lieu of the $1054 repair)
They say I can have either $2048 or a new TX-NR5009 shipped to me.
Their supplier is evidently ADT Electronics for this item.

As far as the TV's are concerned, they are really putting the screws to me thanks to current Christmas prices on TVs. i.e. For my $1500.00 42" TV (my cost), they will only give me $830.00; even less for the other TV's.

I will be able to get my 906 back from Norman's in it's current state - no HDMI or component inputs, but still has the Tuner working. Boy that's an expensive tuner.

What do you think - - take the $2048, get the 906 fixed for $1054 (and take the chances on the fix), or go ahead and take the 5009?
Where can you get a 906 service manual?

Regarding the fan issue - - has anyone considered using a laptop cooler?

Let me know what you guys think.
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I would take the 5009. It is hard to find that unit under $2500, it is ultra certified, it is three generations newer than your 906 and has a more advanced version of audyssey.

As far as the 42" tv goes, I don't think they are putting the screws to you. Even with full replacement cost insurance, $860 is a good repayment for that tv. $860 can get you the most advanced 42 inch plasma on the market and still give you 150-200 dollars to pocket. You could even replace it with a 50" and still have money leftover.

Good luck with your trees. That does sound like a bit of a screw job.
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I would take the 5009.

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It is hard to find that unit under $2500, it is ultra certified, it is three generations newer than your 906 and has a more advanced version of audyssey.

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I would take the 5009. It is hard to find that unit under $2500, it is ultra certified, it is three generations newer than your 906 and has a more advanced version of audyssey.

As far as the 42" tv goes, I don't think they are putting the screws to you. Even with full replacement cost insurance, $860 is a good repayment for that tv. $860 can get you the most advanced 42 inch plasma on the market and still give you 150-200 dollars to pocket. You could even replace it with a 50" and still have money leftover.

Good luck with your trees. That does sound like a bit of a screw job.

+1

The 5009 doesn't have the amp/power supply of the 906..however its more advanced in every other way

I feel for you though..I had a similar situation with a tree and a storm
Only difference is most of it landed on my neighbors house...

I hooked my 5009 up today for the first time..its been sitting in a box for about 45 days in my garage

I have only hooked it up and ran stereo

I like the look better than the older units...sounds different from the 905 that it replaced..it might? run a little cooler as well

Also...and this might be the best news!!
I think Onkyo finally solved that "clicking" issue

It drives me crazy sometimes with my 5508 preamp...as it clicks and clicks with every commercial break

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I don't see any substantiated reason, that the 5009 is less powerful than the 905 / 906.
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I don't see any substantiated reason, that the 5009 is less powerful than the 905 / 906.


do you have any bench test results?( on the 5009)

there was a significant difference in the 5008 and 905/906

the 5008 only benched 79watts at 5 channels driven

http://www.hometheater.com/content/o...-labs-measures

The older 8xx and 9xx had figures at about double that amount with 5 channels driven

Interesting thing..I have a used 805 I bought ebay the other day that I am giving as a holiday gift

I ran it side by side with the 5009...they definitely sound different

The 805 heavier and more dynamic...the 5009 more finessed

I have some incrediblely hard to drive Vienna acoustics speakers that I am tempted to pull out and test the 5009 with them

I ran them with the 805 last night and it made the unit get pretty warm, but sounded pretty good..I should do the same drill tonight with the 5009 and see how it fares


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I would not worry too much about the difference in power between all these onkyo flagships. The difference between 80 wpc and 120/130 wpc all channels driven is not noticeable in everyday usage. That is about 1.5 to 2 db in the real world.

The fact that the 5008 measured exactly same power into 5 and 7 channels indicates to me that it is current limiting protection kicking in.

The 906, 5008 and 5009 are all great receivers. The features that are important to you will make the decision for you.

I also had two 805s - great receivers.
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Hello. I have a 5009 connected to my pc.

My specs are:
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Well, I am having trouble with image when I use sli on my pc. The image goes black after using 3dmark11 or another graphic bench. If I turn off sli it works ok.

Anyone having issues like this??

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Well, I discovered that if I use dvi connector instead of hdmi, I have no problem. There must be some kind of uncompatibility between hdmi in vgas, and hdmi on onkyo...

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I would take the 5009. It is hard to find that unit under $2500,

You are not looking in the right places......
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I would take the 5009. It is hard to find that unit under $2500....

I paid less from an authorized dealer.... and I'd take CP up on his hints (not where I got mine, but I'd rather him has the business since he is a sponsor and they deserve all the support they can get in return).
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I paid less from an authorized dealer.... and I'd take CP up on his hints (not where I got mine, but I'd rather him has the business since he is a sponsor and they deserve all the support they can get in return).

I got my 5009 on 12/23 from an authorized dealer here in South Florida for much less than 2500.

But I agree about giving business to CP also. Plus my places internet price is over $2500.

I am currently using my 5009 as a pre/pro with my Sherbourn amp. I may try the amp in the 5009 over the weekend to see how it does with my ML Vistas.

I really wish Onkyo would release the 5509 here in the US soon as I would love to have one. I would especially like to use the XLR outputs. I am thinking about grabbing the Integra 80.3 but it ultimately does not make sense to me to jump on the Integra when I can have the 5009 with the amps and all the same bells and whistles for a price cheaper than the 80.3.

There are places that still have the 5508 (CP I believe) but I got such a nice price on the 5009 that I am concerned I am going to get burned and the 5509 will get released 45-60 days after jumping on the 5508.

Do I love to hate or hate to love this hobby?

Having said all of my rambling here, I do like the 5009 thus far. It is my first receiver in over 15 years that has not been a Denon. My last being a 4308 which I just relocated to my bedroom.

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I am looking to replace my Denon 4308ci with a 5009. My mains (Vienna Acoustics Shoenbergs) are 4 ohm.

I have heard that onkyos run hot, though the 5009 may be improved. Is it safe to run 4 ohm speakers as mains in a 9.1 configuration (all other speakers are 8 ohm).

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I am looking to replace my Denon 4308ci with a 5009. My mains (Vienna Acoustics Shoenbergs) are 4 ohm.

I have heard that onkyos run hot, though the 5009 may be improved. Is it safe to run 4 ohm speakers as mains in a 9.1 configuration (all other speakers are 8 ohm).

Thanks,
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I bi-amp'd my Martin & Logan Vistas the other day with the 5009 and it drove them nicely. They are rated @ 4ohm as well. I did not run them for an extended period (about 45 mins) though as I was only checking to see how the amps in 5009 held up to my Sherbourn. I only ran the amp in two channel too. The 5009 did get warm but not hot. Maybe a little warmer than the 4308 used to get.

Overall I was impressed with the amps of the 5009 and thought they had a little more oomph than my old 4308 but I did go back to the Sherbourn. If you got it use it.

The 5009 is performing well as a pre, though I would still like to have XLR outs to my amp. But I guess it is nice to know that I have a decent amp to fall back on if something were to fail in the Sherbourn, at least I will continue to tell myself that :-)

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Sort of a silly question. For those of you running two subs when you hit the receiver display button does the channel info show 5.2 7.2 or 9.2 or are they showing .1 I had a 5008 a while back and I sort of rember it showing .2 am I nuts or what. thanks in advance. I will attribute this to age.

Did you get this sorted because I have the same thing happening, my 3007 displayed 9.2 but the same config with the 3009 displays 9.1?
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Call ABT.

Wow!! Just got a fantastic deal from them. Thanks! Had no idea. I've had a hell of a last two weeks with AVRs.

1) Grabbed a none satisfactory sounding 4311Ci from Newegg.
2) Bought a 5008 which made intermittent popping sounds. For anyone interested I noticed no difference at all really from my 3008.
3) Ordered 3009 from Amazon Warehouse which had what looked like a new 3007 in the 3009 box with all the 3009 items.... after this trainwreck, I reordered from warehouse due to massive price difference however at this juncture I was EXTREMELY uncomfortable.
4) Called ABT due to your suggestions and got killer deal on new 3009 I should have Friday.

Its been an emotional rollercoaster. Hope everything goes smoothly over the next few days.
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Got my 3009 today. Really liking the new design. Calibration seemed quicker then the 3008 and 5008.

On PLII Heights comparison between the 3008 and 5008 (noticed no difference between the two in my environment), I know people will say impossible, but the 3009 is smoother with more finesse and not a little bit. I have not checked firmware update yet though. Can't wait to sample more material and try DTS NEO X. I am really really impressed. Wasn't sure what to expect, but am extremely pleased.
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I'm self calibrating my projectors using calman / chroma 5.
Now I'm interested in a 5009 and read, it's supporting isf, but can't find any more information than "it supports isf" ...

So I downloaded and read the 5009's userguide, but still couldn't find any information how to set up an isf calibration. It's only mentioned how to selcect isf day / night ...

So my question is: Does anyone know more about isf calibration with the 5009?
Is there a hidden service menu where isf calibration can be done?

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