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jampot's Avatar jampot 04:54 AM 07-20-2014
Enjoying the head phones but still getting drop outs. Any advice on a where to have the unit and what band width to go for to stop this happening? Does it make a difference having the unit behind/in front of you or on top of other electrical items...

gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 04:26 AM 07-23-2014
Looking to buy a pair of the new 9.1 cans, but I need to know one thing: Is there a decent/somewhat comfortable way to wear 3D glasses when using these?
fatherom's Avatar fatherom 06:57 AM 07-23-2014
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Looking to buy a pair of the new 9.1 cans, but I need to know one thing: Is there a decent/somewhat comfortable way to wear 3D glasses when using these?
I have the original pair (the DS7500), but I use them constantly, and sometimes with 3D.

For me, I put the glasses on first, then put on the headphones. I have a couple different types of 3D glasses; you'll want ones with the thinnest possible plastic at the point above your ear (I guess, according to google, that's called the "temples"?). Reason being, the headphones won't fully "seal" around your ear, because the plastic of the 3D glasses is in the way, slightly.

I find that by the end of a long 3D movie, I have an indentation above each ear where the headphones were pushing the temples portion of the glasses against my head.

All this being said, it's definitely doable. It is only slightly uncomfortable, IMO. To be able to watch 3D movies late at night without disturbing anyone, it's worth it to me.
Oregon Chris's Avatar Oregon Chris 05:12 PM 08-04-2014
I have it hooked up between the avr and the tv. It works just like it did before, so nothing new for the wife to worry about. It is essentially invisible.

The headphones only come on when I put them on my head. They go off a minute after I put them down. There is no disruption on the tv when this happens.

The only issue that has come up is the input button on the bottom of the cans. My wife hit that once by mistake. This is the input select for the dsp. She was pretty upset that she couldn't figure out how get it back. Mad a t me that is.

I have had them about two months and am pretty happy with the purchase. It is no substitute for a real surround sound system at volume, but works well for my situation, and for people that just aren't able to turn things up.
Oregon Chris's Avatar Oregon Chris 05:15 PM 08-04-2014
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Looking to buy a pair of the new 9.1 cans, but I need to know one thing: Is there a decent/somewhat comfortable way to wear 3D glasses when using these?
I wear regular glasses without noticing discomfort. The thicker 3d ones are uncomfortable after awhile. I don't see any way around that.
gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 10:19 AM 08-14-2014
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I wear regular glasses without noticing discomfort. The thicker 3d ones are uncomfortable after awhile. I don't see any way around that.
Thanks. My only other concern was how I am going to set this up and route my hdmi sources. I really didn't want everything going thru the headphone receiver as I like switching inputs on my AVR as is. And I don't want to route from my Denon AVR to the headphone receiver and have to rely on passthrough and hope for no interference in the signal. I'm all for passing as clean a signal as possible unmolested without going through multiple channels so my solution was this: I narrowed down what I will actually use the headphones for to my bluray player and my PS4. The bluray player has two hdmi OUTS so one will go to my Denon AVR as always and the other straight to the MDR

I found myself wishing all my devices had dual HDMI OUT hookups for the same setup as the bluray player, which gave me an idea. So for the PS4 I found hdmi (1 in 2 out) mini switcher (with power cord) for around twenty four bucks on monoprice:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
I will probably get another one for the Wii U as well since it's pretty cheap. I'm sure there are people on this thread with other setups using more expensive swiches than what I will end up paying in the end to go dual out on everything
Crimsoncleaver's Avatar Crimsoncleaver 01:01 AM 08-23-2014
Is there any way to change the input of the Sony MDR-HW700DS using BRAVIA Sync/HDMI CEC. Don't want to have to switch inputs when not using the headphones by manually pressing a button on the unit.

Perhaps the Harmony remote with Wi-Fi can do this?
gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 02:19 PM 09-09-2014
MDR-HW700DS 9.1

I find some movies to be fantastic on these and some not so much. Guess it depends on what's already there on the sound mix. Dredd 3D was probably the best movie I tried on these so far - but it has encoding to go up beyond 7.1 via DTS Neo X mix (Up to 11.1). I didn't think these could decode Neo X until I checked the manual and in fact they do decode Neo X!!!

The 11.1 DTS soundcheck in the Extras on Dredd was VERY well represented in all directions including the Wides, Height, and Back channels. Count me impressed. I think maybe these should be called 11.1 instead of 9.1. The main problem now is that The Expendables 2, Dredd, and Step Up Revolution are the only blurays I could find that support Neo X. The new Transformers movie will be the first to have Dolby Atmos but these headphones do not support it. Here is what these support:

Digital surround processor (DP-HW700)

Decoder functions
Dolby TrueHD
Dolby Digital Plus
Dolby Digital
Dolby Pro Logic IIz*
DTS-HD Master Audio
DTS-HD High Resolution Audio
DTS Express
DTS Digital Surround
DTS-ES
DTS 96/24
DTS
DTS Neo:X*
Linear PCM 2ch/5.1ch/7.1ch
* The Dolby Pro Logic IIz function and the DTS Neo:X function of the system support playback from the headphones only

On another note my DLP link Estar 3D glasses are very comfortable under these and not an issue at all
Roger Dressler's Avatar Roger Dressler 04:10 PM 09-09-2014
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I find some movies to be fantastic on these and some not so much. Guess it depends on what's already there on the sound mix. Dredd 3D was probably the best movie I tried on these so far - but it has encoding to go up beyond 7.1 via DTS Neo X mix (Up to 11.1). I didn't think these could decode Neo X until I checked the manual and in fact they do decode Neo X!!!

The 11.1 DTS soundcheck in the Extras on Dredd was VERY well represented in all directions including the Wides, Height, and Back channels.
Neo:X in a 7.1 system is limited to 7.1 outputs. If the source were 2-ch or 5.1, it will output 7.1. The wides and heights are not supported by the Sony phones, so there's no Neo:X decoding going on for a 7.1 source to a 7.1 output. The Dredd mix did encode wide/height sounds, and in some ways they become apparent when playing on 7.1 speakers, too, so I think that's what you are hearing.
gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 06:49 PM 09-09-2014
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Neo:X in a 7.1 system is limited to 7.1 outputs. If the source were 2-ch or 5.1, it will output 7.1. The wides and heights are not supported by the Sony phones, so there's no Neo:X decoding going on for a 7.1 source to a 7.1 output. The Dredd mix did encode wide/height sounds, and in some ways they become apparent when playing on 7.1 speakers, too, so I think that's what you are hearing.
Are you speaking about the older 7.1 headphones or these newer 9.1 I'm speaking of which include height representation and decode Neo X
gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 07:24 PM 09-09-2014
"Imaging is surprisingly accurate. Running the sound channel check on The Expendables 2 Blu-ray, the headphones accurately placed all the channels in a 7.1 mix and made a good stab at recreating the Neo:X 11.1-channel option too. There’s a real sense of scale and spaciousness to the soundstage."

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news...s-review/19072
gamermwm's Avatar gamermwm 07:31 PM 09-09-2014
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post
Neo:X in a 7.1 system is limited to 7.1 outputs. If the source were 2-ch or 5.1, it will output 7.1. The wides and heights are not supported by the Sony phones, so there's no Neo:X decoding going on for a 7.1 source to a 7.1 output. The Dredd mix did encode wide/height sounds, and in some ways they become apparent when playing on 7.1 speakers, too, so I think that's what you are hearing.
And from Sony's own page:

Track the action
Enjoy immersive surround sound with near discrete Front-Height and Wide imaging. DTS Neo:X™ reproduces ambient and directional effects to create a semi-spherical soundstage.


http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/he...es/mdr-hw700ds
Roger Dressler's Avatar Roger Dressler 08:15 PM 09-09-2014
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Are you speaking about the older 7.1 headphones or these newer 9.1 I'm speaking of which include height representation and decode Neo X
Sorry. I was talking about the model that is the subject of this thread. By bad.
vaktmestern's Avatar vaktmestern 06:56 AM 10-01-2014
Sold my 7500s and bought the new version aswell. charging the headphone atm n will try it out later.
feels lighter n more compact the new headset.
vaktmestern's Avatar vaktmestern 12:56 PM 10-07-2014
Less bass on the 700s than 7500s little let down oc them really.
Trigen's Avatar Trigen 04:13 PM 10-07-2014
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Less bass on the 700s than 7500s little let down oc them really.
Is that even after adjusting the LFE level in the menu?
dennugsmello's Avatar dennugsmello 12:24 PM 11-05-2014
I understand this a rarely frequented forum but I had a couple questions if anybody is still around. First off I own the MDR-HW700DS. I have read through this thread and people seem to dislike the cinema setting, which actually I think sounds the best. Is there a problem using this setting? If so what should I be using. And secondly should I be using the NEOX setting every time I watch a movie? Like should I use that setting on every movie I watch including 5.1 and 7.1 blu rays? Thanks
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