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Just wanted to share my new purchase. I can hardly wait to get this baby set up. Now off to download the latest FW, in case it is not on the unit when it arrives.

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5.1 system here. Have not been sold on a reason to go 7.1 Maybe if I hear a good enough setup with some true 7.1 Blu-Ray's I might consider adding two more speakers and another amp or replace an amp. But that is it. 9 or 11 channel is not going to happen. I can see my self adding another sub and going 5.2 long before any of that happens.
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Exactly. How many people do we personally know with even a 5.1 system? Not many in my case. And 7.1, even fewer. And 9.1 fewer still. And 11.1 - well, it's off the scale.

Exactly, plus ^^^^ 1

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Exactly. How many people do we personally know with even a 5.1 system? Not many in my case. And 7.1, even fewer. And 9.1 fewer still. And 11.1 - well, it's off the scale.

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I know only one other person with a 5.1 channel system. I have another friend who thinks her iPod docks are high fidelity. She has a stereo TV and a dvd player which is high tech for the people I know.
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5.1 system here. Have not been sold on a reason to go 7.1 Maybe if I hear a good enough setup with some true 7.1 Blu-Ray's I might consider adding two more speakers and another amp or replace an amp. But that is it. 9 or 11 channel is not going to happen. I can see my self adding another sub and going 5.2 long before any of that happens.

Different strokes ........

It really depends on the layout and size of your room. I have 14ft. from the MLP to the back wall also cathedral ceilings in my 3400+cu.ft. room. The back surrounds are very nice to fill in the ambience while the front height channels really help with the illusion of height in my 9.2 system.

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.... buy a Denon 4311, which is a really great unit at an amazing price. And you can turn the internal amps off and use it in pre-pro mode. And you'd have 9 amplifiers available for other purposes or as a backup.

Did just that today! You guys have me itching for XT32 and my Onkyo TXNR1007 is in the shop for an HDMI board replacement, so I am going to give Denon a try. Onkyo needs to get their HDMI board issues sorted out. My earlier 606 also had to have it's board replaced. I can't afford the 80.3 but the Denon at it's current price is too hard to pass for entry into the XT32 club!
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I'm currently having a slight audio dropout through the HDMI.

When i switch modes, sometimes after a few seconds it drops out for 1-2sec and comes back on. But stays on after that.
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Did just that today! You guys have me itching for XT32 and my Onkyo TXNR1007 is in the shop for an HDMI board replacement, so I am going to give Denon a try. Onkyo needs to get their HDMI board issues sorted out. My earlier 606 also had to have it's board replaced. I can't afford the 80.3 but the Denon at it's current price is too hard to pass for entry into the XT32 club!

I don't think you can go wrong with the 4311. And it is fabulous value too. Do pop back to let us know how you get on with it.
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I'm currently having a slight audio dropout through the HDMI.

When i switch modes, sometimes after a few seconds it drops out for 1-2sec and comes back on. But stays on after that.

Do you mean it switches modes, plays the new format and *then* drops out?

Or do you mean when you switch modes it drops out for a few seconds and then carries on playing?

The latter sounds like the HDMI renegotiation (handshake) that has to take place when you swap modes.

The former sounds like it could be a problem. Does it happen on every source? Every time in a repeatable way? Regardless of which mode you have switched from and to?
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Do you mean it switches modes, plays the new format and *then* drops out?

Or do you mean when you switch modes it drops out for a few seconds and then carries on playing?

The latter sounds like the HDMI renegotiation (handshake) that has to take place when you swap modes.

The former sounds like it could be a problem. Does it happen on every source? Every time in a repeatable way? Regardless of which mode you have switched from and to?

I have the Oppo fed into the Integra two ways. HDMI and XLR.

When i switch to XLR (AUX) its fine, no dropout. But when i switch to Bluray (HDMI) it starts to play (few secs) drops out for 1-2sec then continuous playing. At this point i haven't played long enough to see if it drops out later on. But i've gone through a full song without it dropping out again.

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Did just that today! You guys have me itching for XT32 and my Onkyo TXNR1007 is in the shop for an HDMI board replacement, so I am going to give Denon a try. Onkyo needs to get their HDMI board issues sorted out. My earlier 606 also had to have it's board replaced. I can't afford the 80.3 but the Denon at it's current price is too hard to pass for entry into the XT32 club!

This is precisely the reason why i gave up on Onkyo products and use strictly Onkyo Pro or Integra. Some will argue there is no difference but after seeing jaggies and dead inputs on 2 Onkyo receivers, and having had no problems with the PR-SC885, DHC-9.9, and DHC-80.3 i will stick with the custom install products.

BTW 140mm fans over all components from day one.
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This is precisely the reason why i gave up on Onkyo products and use strictly Onkyo Pro or Integra. Some will argue there is no difference but after seeing jaggies and dead inputs on 2 Onkyo receivers, and having had no problems with the PR-SC885, DHC-9.9, and DHC-80.3 i will stick with the custom install products.

BTW 140mm fans over all components from day one.

That's the thing, I had two fans on each and really all it did was prolong the failure IMO. I have to give Onkyo credit in that they approved repairs out of warranty but I just don't have any confidence in their products right now. I'll try to sell the 1007 after I get it back, hopefully a new HDMI board will be a selling point!
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I just upgraded from the 80.2 to the 80.3 and have to say I am surprised... The Audyssey XT32 implementation appears to be better on the 80.3. I just assumed they would be the same. Let me explain, I have a very oddly configured room which has been the source of some very bad experiences with Audyssey on my former 9.8 and the 80.2. When using Audyssey on the LFE channel it would bump up infrasonic frequencies and make my subwoofer bottom out on almost any demanding source material. I ran Audyssey, just for the hell of it, with the 80.3 fully expecting it to do the same thing, but it didn't! The bass sounds amazingly clean and detailed and does not bottom on well traveled source material. I have to say I am blissfully surprised. I can finally use Audyssey to properly EQ my sub. The menus have also changed slightly (I realize this is just the software) and the speed of the final calculations is increased dramatically. It takes like 30 seconds to run the end calculations on the 80.3. On my 80.2 it took approximately 5 minutes. Perhaps its an improved processor that makes the difference? Being able to finally use Audyssey to its fullest extent makes this upgrade significant for me.
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glad to hear that the 80.3 is better. I really like my 80.2 but always looking for something different. If I can sell my 80.2 I will try to get an 80.3.

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Download the attached files. Onkyo codes seem to apply across all their units. I have added various discrete codes for DSPs, for example, using the file attached to this post and they work fine with my 5509 and 5007 before it.

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Good stuff, thanks Keith
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Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for...

Has anybody loaded these codes yet? Im curious as to how they work with the 80.3.
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Has anybody loaded these codes yet? Im curious as to how they work with the 80.3.

I have added several of these discrete codes to my functionally identical Onkyo 5509 (via Harmony 1100) and they all work, just as they did on the 5007 I had before.
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I wish there were a way to use pure audio with XT32 engaged.

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I wish there were a way to use pure audio with XT32 engaged.

I guess it wouldn't be very 'pure' then though

Pure audio turns the video and front display circuits off. The benefits of this are going to be marginal I would think - it may even be more of a marketing gimmick than a genuine sonic advantage. They say it is to reduce noise caused by the video circuitry - what noise?

You can't use XT32 in 'Direct' mode either. You can use Stereo with XT32 though which probably, in all reality, sounds as good as Pure Audio.
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I guess it wouldn't be very 'pure' then though

Pure audio turns the video and front display circuits off. The benefits of this are going to be marginal I would think - it may even be more of a marketing gimmick than a genuine sonic advantage. They say it is to reduce noise caused by the video circuitry - what noise?

You can't use XT32 in 'Direct' mode either. You can use Stereo with XT32 though which probably, in all reality, sounds as good as Pure Audio.

Right, it sounds better than pure because audyssey is engaged. I like pure because is disengages the subwoofers. Sometimes all I want are the front l/r playing.

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I would have to agree Pure Audio is a marketing gimmick. Having it on many other processors/receivers, i have not heard anything different then Direct mode.
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Just installed my 80.3. This is my first Integra piece I have owned and am curious what listening modes you all recommend/use for TV, Music, Movies?
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I do not use any of the THX processing because i can't stand how it processes the sound on DD/DTS modes.

If i were to use the Integra for 2Ch music, it would be on Stereo with Audyssey enabled.
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Just installed my 80.3. This is my first Integra piece I have owned and am curious what listening modes you all recommend/use for TV, Music, Movies?

Welcome to AVS and to the thread.

I can only speak for movies but just use whatever takes your fancy. It also depends on your speaker configuration. If you have 7.1, then you will want to use a DSP which enables your rear surrounds - if you have Height or Wide speakers, similarly with Dolby PLIIz or Audyssey DSX. If you have a vanilla 5.1 system try one of the THX Cinema modes and so on. Or you may prefer the 'straight' decode right off the disc. Just experiment with them and listen carefully to how they change the soundstage - some will have more or less impact on what you hear from the surrounds for example. Others will create slightly more 'ambience'. There's no right and wrong to it - it's a matter of personal taste.

Far more important is to get a good Audyssey XT32 calibration - for that the Setup Guide is your friend.
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Exactly, plus ^^^^ 1

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Trust me, we're out here and growing (the 7, 9, and 11 channel crowd). Check out the 4311 thread and witness how many purchased it specifically for 9/11 channel operation. It'd be a bit of a non-starter if this was a $500 AVR, but of course it's not- this is a premo-priced pre/pro for a high/higher end rig...one that could easily include heights, wides, and rears.

And the fact that virtually every AVR over $500 IS 7 channels, with 9 channel units everywhere, adding 2, especially at this price point, is anything but odd, and I would contend, even expected at nearly $3,000.

We'll see what happens with the next model...I'd all but guarantee you it will be 11 channels.

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I know only one other person with a 5.1 channel system. I have another friend who thinks her iPod docks are high fidelity. She has a stereo TV and a dvd player which is high tech for the people I know.

The gorilla in the pink suit though is of course that $3,000 pre/pros are not designed, manufactured, marketed, and sold to them.

Only a fraction of the population drives Porsches...should they stop making cars?

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Different strokes ........

It really depends on the layout and size of your room. I have 14ft. from the MLP to the back wall also cathedral ceilings in my 3400+cu.ft. room. The back surrounds are very nice to fill in the ambience while the front height channels really help with the illusion of height in my 9.2 system.

Cheers,
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Precisely. And there's more to it...but I'd suggest seeking out a properly implemented 9/11 channel handling 5/7 channel content and make the decision for yourself. I love mine and don't regret the decision for a second.

If you already have (heard a GREAT 9/11 channel array) and prefer 5.1, god bless ya.

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Hi guys, my unit just arrived here at the office.....I'll set it up tonight. I read the entire manual as I am somewhat familiar with the Integra product (I have the Integra DTR 7.6).
I wanted to know where I can connect the L & R anologues from my Oppo 93? I don't see a dedicated 2 ch analogue CD input on the back of the 80.3.
I want to press the TV/CD remote mode button when I listen to the Oppo via the 2 ch analogues and press the BD/DVD button when I listen to something via HDMI. All I see for 2 ch L & R inputs are : PC in, Game in, CBL/Sat in, BD/DVD. THERE IS NO "CD in".

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Hi James, as surprising as that may be to you, please realize that only about 0.01% of people are actually running an 11.2 set up, and that figure is probably generous. It is hard enough trying to convince new buyers in the HT world that they need, minimum, a 5.1 set up, let alone 11.2.
Just my 2cents.


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It's not "surprising" to me at all, and I'd love to learn why you would anticipate that it would be, but I digress...

So if 11 channel arrays are about .01%, where do you suppose the number who purchase an 80.3- or any other $3,000 pre-pro- lies?

Of course neither % condemns either as irrelevant.

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Can't disagree.



I don't think you can currently beat the 4311 for features, quality and price. I keep asking myself why I bought the 5509 (the 80.3 in Onkyo form) when the 4311 does all that I could want and is cheaper. I guess I wanted the 'purity' of a pre-pro is all I can say.



Yeah sure - I can see where you are coming from. But the fact is it's a 9.2 unit. The market for 11 channels is minuscule I'd say - even for 9 channels. Maybe they just didn’t think it was worth the effort for such a small number of people who want it. The Denon two-external-amps route is very elegant IMO.

Fair and agreed. Just to be clear: I'm CERTAIN the 80.3 is an amazing pre/pro in just about every regard imagineable.

I suppose I'm just crowing about my disappointment on how it's not "perfect" for me.

Sorry to ruffle some feathers, enjoy your fantastic machines, gentlemen.


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Trust me, we're out here and growing (the 7, 9, and 11 channel crowd). Check out the 4311 thread and witness how many purchased it specifically for 9/11 channel operation. It'd be a bit of a non-starter if this was a $500 AVR, but of course it's not- this is a premo-priced pre/pro for a high/higher end rig...one that could easily include heights, wides, and rears.

And the fact that virtually every AVR over $400 IS at least 7 channels, with 9 channel units everywhere, adding 2, especially at this price point, is anything but odd, and I would contend, even expected at nearly $3,000.

We'll see what happens with the next model...I'd all but guarantee you it will be 11 channels.

till then...

James

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Every year there are new changes.
Gotta keep the clientèle coming back each year for the latest.

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