Originally Posted by SoundofMind
For those put off by the few joking references to $500 cables a few pages back, prior and current DL players come with a std inexpensive CAT5 (DL) cable in the box. Denon has produced an expensive "audiophile" DL cable but of course there is no reason to think that fanciness would make any audible difference whatsoever, as is the case for other digital transmission cables like optical, coax and HDMI.
As to DLHD, I was given no specifics by the Denon rep at AudioKarma, just a tease, "Oh, there's a big new development in DL...."
Originally Posted by markrubin
I purchased that $500.00 cable and did my own listening tests Vs an inexpensive CAT 5 cable:
of course I heard no difference (Denon AVP and DBP-4010UDCI) and the blue light lit with the exact same intensity with either cable: I returned the 'audiophile' cable to Amazon
I have been lurking on several threads and have appreciated your posts a lot...thanks to you and others who share their knowledge and experience.
I have a 4311 and a 4310 but no shiny disk spinner with DL...have thought about trying it out. I had decided to wait for the 2013 players and get one this fall (October
is mentioned in a previous post) apparently the DBT-1713UD will NOT have DLHD...but now I'm worried about compatibility with my 4310 and 11...the appearance of the new connection for DLHD on the rear panel of the AVR-3313 concerns me. Wonder if DLHD will be backwards compatible with DL 3/4??
Have found a refurb DBP-4010 online for a very tempting price from an AD....also found (to my surprise) another AD offering NIB DBP-A100 at an attractive price w/5 year warranty...cable included!
In all seriousness do you think Denon will offer a DLHD out to DL 3/4 "adapter" cable?? That input on the back panel of the German 3313 has been called "coax" by some posters here...it looks almost like a 1/4 inch instrument/line in to me, bigger than the digital coax ins to the left in the photo.
So my dilemma...just get an OPPO BD-93 and forget about DL...or grab one of these older DL 3/4 players from an AD while I still can....I know you have suggested tracking down used DL3 players but I have to admit I'm gun shy about buying used equipment online and shipped...guess I'm old school...most all of my gear is from brick and mortar stores. Buying an OPPO and/or a 4010/A100 will pull me out of that comfort zone! Any advice? Is the difference between the 4010 and A100 mostly cosmetic (like the AVR 4311 and AVR A100) ? I know about the warranty... 1 year on refurb 4010 vs paying more to get the A100 with 5 years on close out NIB...I will admit the fact neither one of these players bitstream DSD over HDMI bothers me along with the SACD to PCM decimation at 44.1 kHz / 16 bit...will I like DL3 so much for RB CD, SACD and DVD-A that it won't matter? And what about that 3rd blue light??
BTW I run 2 5.1 systems with Paradigm vs6 mini-monitors and a single Polk 10 inch sub in each room...I hope to get better subs sometime soon...also run a 2.0 zone 2 with 2 old Paradigm floorstanders (Phantoms)...haven't tried the 2 sub thing yet....
One impulse buy I regret...a Marantz UD-5005...somewhat discounted by BB...however I will say it does bitstream DSD over HDMI plus DSD to 88.2 kHz PCM which is nice...RB CD and SD DVD up-conversion are the main negatives...slow and quirky UI as well...