Originally Posted by coolcat4843
Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers.
But I can understand your furstrations with being stuck with a 818.
Especially, when in the back of your mind, you know that you could of had the superior 3009.
But hey, life is full of compromises.
I hope you have fun with your 818, as best you can.
Don't forget to come back and visit us, here in the 3009 owners thread.
We like to keep track of our "little brothers."
I swore I would not respond to this post because it seems so pointless, but after a few beverages today I have something to get off of my chest. First of all I am not stuck with a lowly anything and that comment alone may explain why you are single and live in an apartment. I chose the 818 because my experience with the 809 in my 22x24 foot man cave was that I could listen to it at reference and even beyond that without any issues, including neighbor complaints. I bet you cannot do that in your apartment with your lofty 3009 and 4 subs. Don't bother trying to BS here as a 313 would probably suit your apartment purposes. I can crank my 818 to reference and beyond anytime I want and never hear from anyone in my hood because the man cave is in the basement. Don't even try to tell me you can do this in an apartment with neighbors.
Let me see if I can explain where I have come from. Had (still have) a Pio Elite VSX-23TXH that was a very good unit and very clean power. Could not do 3D. Tried a Yammie 867 but it clipped and shut down at reference levels and beyond. Got an 809 and it did what I needed but HDMI sub out failed and I need that for my PJ. So now I have the 818 and ditto for the power levels. I have a similar Polk setup as you and 3 Polk subs. Don't know what apartment you live in but everyone here in this house can hear/feel when I listen to my 818 so I doubt it is different in your apartment except neighbors will complain.
To summarize, yet again, I am sure the 3009 is a fine unit and you got a good deal, unfortunately you are in no position to stretch the legs of the unit being in an apartment and even an 818 would be overkill in an apartment because I gaurantee the cops would be at my door every day with my 818 and the levels I listen to it. If you want to be my big brother get a bigger house than I have. Then you can be that. That would be bigger than 2,700 square feet my "big" brother.
Now can you please stop this crap and enjoy your unit? Seems you are more disappointed than I am that I cancelled my 3009 order. Trust me if the 818 does not cut it I can move on. So far it is doing fine. BTW, you have an old unit, last year's model. How's that feel? Childish eh? Yeah well seems I am in the sandbox in the playground with you right now and that is not where either of us should be. We should be extolling the value that Onkyo provides to the consumer instead of bickering. Need I remind you I could buy a 5010 if I felt like it? I just do not need that and you ought to make note of that.
Sorry to the rest of the 3009 owners but I felt this needed to be addressed as Onkyo makes a great line of AVRs and there is a reason for that. Not everyone needs the flagship and the 3009 was not the flagship, albeit close.
BTW, the HDMI splitter I got off of Amazon did display the OSD to my projector (got one of those coolcat4843? Thought not) but it failed to pass 3D so I will readvise when I get this sorted out. I am also struggling with getting the Android app to work my 818 but I am sure it is no different for the 3009 since the ICS system seems to be problematic. Wow, that was a lot of wind but I had to get it off my chest.