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post #181 of 954 Old 07-13-2012, 04:02 AM
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Got my 3009 from Vann's today. It;s replacing a TX-DS989 ver 2.
Can't wait to get it up and running... smile.gif


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Got my 3009 from Vann's today. It;s replacing a TX-DS989 ver 2.
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Hey, I have a TX-DS989 upgraded to Version 2. I am thinking of replacing it with either a TX-NR818 or a TX-NR3009. Let me know how you like your new TX-NR3009 in comparison to the TX-DS989 Version 2. I really like my TX-DS989, but I want to use the new surround formats. Thanks for any help.

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So far, so good. Outstanding receiver. I've noticed there is no OSD without a video souce. Is this correct? When I am streaming my music lib from my pc it would be nice to see what i am selecting without having to get up and look at the receivers display.(My equipment is in a dedicated closet with front/back access).

I did go and get a cheap laptop cooler(coolermaster notepal x-slim) to help cool the beast.

Overall one of the best purchases i've made in a long while. I noticed Vann's is now out of stock, i'm glad i jumped when i did.
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So far, so good. Outstanding receiver. I've noticed there is no OSD without a video souce. Is this correct? When I am streaming my music lib from my pc it would be nice to see what i am selecting without having to get up and look at the receivers display.(My equipment is in a dedicated closet with front/back access).
I did go and get a cheap laptop cooler(coolermaster notepal x-slim) to help cool the beast.
Overall one of the best purchases i've made in a long while. I noticed Vann's is now out of stock, i'm glad i jumped when i did.
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There is OSD for video source. You may have to turn it on in setup under miscellaneous. When you switch video source, it will show on screen. Is at what you mean?

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There is OSD for video source. You may have to turn it on in setup under miscellaneous. When you switch video source, it will show on screen. Is at what you mean?
No, I know the OSD works with a video source, I wish is worked without requiring a video src. On my old 989 i had OSD without any video source running.


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I see there are eleven speaker cable outputs, on back. I understand the amp can only power nine channels. Does this mean I can hook up all eleven channels for the main room (fronts / center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height) and just switch them, on the fly, for the nine speakers I choose to use?

Also, can the processors do all eleven channels if I were to use an externl amp for the fronts and the nine internal channels for the rest (center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height)?

I'm thinking about picking one of these up soon, as the new models are about out.

My understanding is the Denon 4311 will do the processing with an external amp for the fronts and the nine channel internal for the other channels.

I would be upgrading from a TX-SR608. I was going to upgrade to a Pre and all seperates, but it seems like the best option ($) is to use the internal amp from a good receiver for the surrounds (and I want a bunch of them!)

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I see there are eleven speaker cable outputs, on back. I understand the amp can only power nine channels. Does this mean I can hook up all eleven channels for the main room (fronts / center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height) and just switch them, on the fly, for the nine speakers I choose to use?

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Also, can the processors do all eleven channels if I were to use an externl amp for the fronts and the nine internal channels for the rest (center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height)?

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I'm thinking about picking one of these up soon, as the new models are about out.
My understanding is the Denon 4311 will do the processing with an external amp for the fronts and the nine channel internal for the other channels.
I would be upgrading from a TX-SR608. I was going to upgrade to a Pre and all seperates, but it seems like the best option ($) is to use the internal amp from a good receiver for the surrounds (and I want a bunch of them!)

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I see there are eleven speaker cable outputs, on back. I understand the amp can only power nine channels. Does this mean I can hook up all eleven channels for the main room (fronts / center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height) and just switch them, on the fly, for the nine speakers I choose to use?
Also, can the processors do all eleven channels if I were to use an externl amp for the fronts and the nine internal channels for the rest (center / surround / back surround / front wide / front height)?
I'm thinking about picking one of these up soon, as the new models are about out.
My understanding is the Denon 4311 will do the processing with an external amp for the fronts and the nine channel internal for the other channels.
I would be upgrading from a TX-SR608. I was going to upgrade to a Pre and all seperates, but it seems like the best option ($) is to use the internal amp from a good receiver for the surrounds (and I want a bunch of them!)

Let me disagree with Fuzz's response on a couple of things.  Yes, you can hook up all 11 channels but No, you cannot easily switch them all on the fly, just some.  For example - you can use the 'speaker setup' to switch btwn FW/SB or FH/SB, but you cannot select FH/FW like that.  You actually have to disconnect the SB speakers and re-configure the wides to those outputs.  It takes going into the setup menu and selecting btwn "FW/FH-Both" OR FW/SB and FH/SB.  Also, since the processor decodes up to 9.2 channels, it won't matter if you connect a separate amp, you will not get 11.2 output.  The 11 speaker connections are for choosing btwn the mentioned setups of 9 channels - there is no functionality to run 11 channels, even with external amps.


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Hmmmm...

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Onkyo is supposed to be replacing my faulty 3007 with the 3009 and I cant wait based on some of the feedback here. I always thought the 3007 sounded great (except in 2 channel mode). I already have the coolermaster massive23 fan mentioned in this thread. I got a new plasma tv this weekend and boy does tv sound just SUCK!
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Why is the 3009 worth $300+ more than the 818?

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simple answer...SUB EQ. Worth $300 on it's own. Plus 9 channel amp...and a bunch else. There is some advantages to the 818 like the thumbnail source preview. But for $300, the SUB EQ and 9 channel amps are the key differences.
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simple answer...SUB EQ. Worth $300 on it's own. Plus 9 channel amp...and a bunch else. There is some advantages to the 818 like the thumbnail source preview. But for $300, the SUB EQ and 9 channel amps are the key differences.

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simple answer...SUB EQ. Worth $300 on it's own. Plus 9 channel amp...and a bunch else. There is some advantages to the 818 like the thumbnail source preview. But for $300, the SUB EQ and 9 channel amps are the key differences.

If I have a 7.1 system, would it be worth it for me to get a 3009 over an 818? I am replacing an "ancient" TX-DS989 upgraded to Version 2 and I mostly watch movies at or near reference levels. I may even consider getting a 5009, if it goes down a bit more in the next couple of weeks.

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nope , subeq is for 2 or more subs , you have only one and 3009 have 9 channel amp and you have only 7.

if you dont want to go 7.2 or 9.1 do not worth
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simple answer...SUB EQ. Worth $300 on it's own. Plus 9 channel amp...and a bunch else. There is some advantages to the 818 like the thumbnail source preview. But for $300, the SUB EQ and 9 channel amps are the key differences.

Not addressing the additional 2 amps, but the Sub EQ HT feature is only worth it if you have multiple subs (or want the option to add a sub in the future) AND you don't plan on placing them equidistant from the MLP and level matching them prior to using XT32, otherwise, there's no benefit.

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simple answer...SUB EQ. Worth $300 on it's own. Plus 9 channel amp...and a bunch else. There is some advantages to the 818 like the thumbnail source preview. But for $300, the SUB EQ and 9 channel amps are the key differences.

How would you add (hook up) 4 subwoofers to the 3009.
2 SVS PB12-NSD subs (ported) and 2 BIC America F12 subs (sealed).

Because of my small home theater, the only place that I can put all 4 subs is against the front wall.
The PB12's are in each corner and the F12's are located closer to the center of the wall, spaced equally apart.
Again all four subwoofers are spaced equally across the front wall.

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nope , subeq is for 2 or more subs , you have only one and 3009 have 9 channel amp and you have only 7.
if you dont want to go 7.2 or 9.1 do not worth

I am considering the 3009, and maybe the 5009, simply for the better amp section. I was wondering if it would be worth it for a 7.1 system if I like to listen to my system at or near reference levels give or take 5 to 10 dB.

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How would you add (hook up) 4 subwoofers to the 3009.
2 SVS PB12-NSD subs (ported) and 2 BIC America F12 subs (sealed).
Because of my small home theater, the only place that I can put all 4 subs is against the front wall.
The PB12's are in each corner and the F12's are located closer to the center of the wall, spaced equally apart.
Again all four subwoofers are spaced equally across the front wall.

You would need two split Interconnect cables. One would would go from sub1 connection to each of the PB12s and the other connected to the sub2 connection to the F12s. This way the equalizer will work better when the pairs are at the same volume.

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ask for joerod. if I remember correctly he owned both and found that it was not worth the difference in 3009 to 818
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I am considering the 3009, and maybe the 5009, simply for the better amp section. I was wondering if it would be worth it for a 7.1 system if I like to listen to my system at or near reference levels give or take 5 to 10 dB.
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You would need two split Interconnect cables. One would would go from sub1 connection to each of the PB12s and the other connected to the sub2 connection to the F12s. This way the equalizer will work better when the pairs are at the same volume.

The owners manual says to adjust the volume dial on the back of each sub to 75db,
before running Audyssey.

Is this what you did?

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The owners manual says to adjust the volume dial on the back of each sub to 75db,
before running Audyssey.
Is this what you did?

Yes thats what I did for my two subs. I actually ran them a little hotter at 80db. But yes make sure each pair of subs together are 75db. Try and make it so the PB12s are at the same volume level at the dial to reach 75db. Same with the F12s.

When running Audyssey it allow you to level out the subs with a test tone. Try it out.

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Yes thats what I did for my two subs. I actually ran them a little hotter at 80db. But yes make sure each pair of subs together are 75db. Try and make it so the PB12s are at the same volume level at the dial to reach 75db. Same with the F12s.
When running Audyssey it allow you to level out the subs with a test tone. Try it out.

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ask for joerod. if I remember correctly he owned both and found that it was not worth the difference in 3009 to 818

Actually if you only have one sub it is not worth it. Two or more go 3009 or 1010.

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Why is the 3009 worth $300+ more than the 818?
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For me, 2 reasons:
1) I have 2 subs and needed eq for both.
2) I use an MK750 surround system, LCR and L/R Surrounds are 4 ohm nominal impedance(Only Back surrounds are 8 ohm). I wanted the extra power.


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Hello, I have an onkyo 5009, connected to a pc and a Pioneer p50vt30.


I am having strange click sounds (not classical click from Onkyo) when I use hdmi from my gtx 680 graphic card (nvidia), windows 7 media player and high volume (stereo or all channels stereo), with mp3 or wma archives. If I use optical, no problem.


The click sounds come from 5009 when I use high volume, from 65 to 85, and are more audible when the volume is higher.


If I use optical input, there is no click sound, so it has to do with hdmi circuits.


In spite of click sounds in the onkyo, the receiver works correctly, and gets hotty too..


Anyone having this trouble?


EDIT: I have the same problem with optical, but the click is more random and less audible. It seems has to do with heat..




I answer myself. I have placed a notebook cooler over the 5009 and now the clicking sounds have gone. It was a heat issue, when playing stereo biamp at high volume...



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I answer myself. I have placed a notebook cooler over the 5009 and now the clicking sounds have gone. It was a heat issue, when playing stereo biamp at high volume...

Strange, I never have any sort of heat issue when playing that loud for extended times. What is the ambient temperature like in the room?

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Just placed my order for the 3009 from OneCall a few minutes ago. Noticed that Amazon has sold out of 3009's, so I thought I better jump on the similar deal at OneCall. Seems like the remaining 3009's are flying off the shelves now that the price has dropped so low.

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Just placed my order for the 3009 from OneCall a few minutes ago. Noticed that Amazon has sold out of 3009's, so I thought I better jump on the similar deal at OneCall. Seems like the remaining 3009's are flying off the shelves now that the price has dropped so low.

And they should be! smile.gif

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Strange, I never have any sort of heat issue when playing that loud for extended times. What is the ambient temperature like in the room?

Doesn't the 3009 come with built-in twin fans, like the 818? If so, why the need for an external fan? Also, shouldn't the fan be mounted underneath the unit, instead of attaching a fan to the top, blowing dust and dirt into the receiver and possibily damaging the internal circuitry?

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