Originally Posted by Manchild
Based on what I know the differences between the 5508/80.2 and the 5509/80.3 are:
1. Video Processing (HQV Reon-VX vs. Vida)
The 5509/80.3 has the newer Vida; supposed real improvement on the Vida 1900 is improved mosquito/noise reduction for SD (HQV StreamClean) and HD inputs (i.e. make your super compressed cable channels look better). I imagine most would be hard pressed to detect an actual difference in the basic deinterlacing and scaling alone.
2. DTS Neo:X
The 5509/80.3 has the new DTS DSP to upmix 2.0/5.1/7.1 to 9.1/11.1
3. Improved Relay Clicking
The 5508/80.2 suffers from audible relay clicking in the event you desire to utilize the processor to always pass through the native stream (e.g. you allow it to switch from 5.1 to 2.0 as opposed to native 5.1 to ProLogic II/x/z).
Lastly, all the Onkyo Pro (or now Onkyo) products offer "Pure Audio" mode that disengages any and all processing circuitry (effectively just using the processor as a line stage) while the Integra offers the extra year of warranty. To be honest I'm not totally clear on how the "Pure Audio" and "Direct" modes differ given I'm not an owner......yet.
Hello, can anyone confirm if there is really a difference in the relay clicking on any of these models from Onkyo and Integra? I have an Onkyo 5507 and I'm just about done with the relay clicks and plan to sell it and buy something else. I bought a Marantz 7005 and loved the lack of constant relay clicks! But the SQ wasn't as good as the Onkyo 5507 and there was an audible electronic processing noise output at high freq that I could hear within 2' of my L/R main tweeters. You know, the kind of electronic noise like I've heard from cheap MP3 players and mobile phone analog audio outputs that are coupling digital noise and amplifying it? Well I heard that out my speakers even with a digital input on pause! It's dead silent with the Onkyo as it should be.
Anyway, I like the features and SQ of the 5507 except for the relay clicks. I'm trying to confirm if this poster's statement is true that either the Onkyo 5509 or Integra 80.3 do away with the ridiculous relays.
The relay problem is that if a digital input such as HDMI is carrying encoded audio such as dolby digital, and that stream is interrupted for even a tiny fraction of a second, the Onkyo prepro clicks one or more relays back into a default standby position, and then returns them to the normal operational position once the digital stream resumes, causing a series of 2-4 relay clicks per event. Typical satellite or cable TV boxes with DVRs painfully highlight the issue since many common events result in brief interruptions in the digital audio stream. Events include channel changes, DVR pause/play/skip/rwd/ffwd, or very brief < 1 second signal dropouts that do seem fairly common with DISH. The result is very frequent clicks, an associated sound dropout, and I also enjoy a low freq pulse to my subwoofer if using XLR. I don't think the relay click issue occurs with already decoded PCM bitstreams so if you set your other piece of equipment to decode to bitstream you won't hear the prepro click but I don't think this is possible on the typical cable/sat boxes without dropping everything back to stereo and losing the 5.1 digital audio.
So, I'd very much appreciate if someone who has a 5509 or 80.3 use this scenario description to test statement (3) of the author? Preferably using a DISH network DVR such as the 722 but really the relay clicks should be reproduced (or not) with any sound source passing encoded dolby digital directly to the prepro. Try pausing and playing the signal multiple times and I expect you will hear at least one relay click each time you pause or play.
If not, I would be so happy to buy one of these newer models!
Otherwise if Onkyo still can't get a clue after years of complaints, I'll have to find another make and model. Other than Marantz due to the SQ issues I recently experienced. Oh, and I also have had to shun Denon because my previous $2K Denon AVR developed a temp sensitive issue a few months out of warranty and now cannot output video until it heats itself up for 10 minutes! /sigh