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Yamaha RX-A810 or Onkyo TX NR709????


I'm looking to upgrade my receiver from a 10 yr old Sony STR and am trying to keep the price tag under $800.

For speakers I have:

Infinity Beta C360
Infinity Primus 153
Infinity Primus 163
10" JBL Sub (dunno model)

Mainly using for playing DVDs and listening to music off my laptop.
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I'm considering both of those also, looking forward to some responses.
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Not sure if this is still pertinent by none of my Onkyos ever had bass management in direct mode, which was really annoying (no crossover filtering so no sub output outside of LFE content).

Onkyo is rated for 10 more watts but I don't think that will make much of a difference.

The buttons on the Yamaha remote are just labeled (1, 2, 3,...8) for the hdmi inputs, while the Onkyo has fixed word labels (DVD, Blu Ray, MD Player, etc). Both have pros and cons.
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Not sure if this is still pertinent by none of my Onkyos ever had bass management in direct mode, which was really annoying (no crossover filtering so no sub output outside of LFE content).

Can anyone confirm if the Onkyo TX-N709 has a crossover to use the subs for 2 channel audio? I can't find anything on the Onkyo website. Granted I can't find anything that says the Yamaha RX-A810 can do it either. I would really like to be able to use the subs when listening to music.
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If your speakers are all set to SMALL then the subwoofer would have to work in STEREO mode. DIRECT mode might be a different story because that may eliminate all bass management.

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Is that for the Onkyo, the Yamaha, or both?
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It's for most receivers across brands.
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Can anyone confirm if the Onkyo TX-N709 has a crossover to use the subs for 2 channel audio? I can't find anything on the Onkyo website. Granted I can't find anything that says the Yamaha RX-A810 can do it either. I would really like to be able to use the subs when listening to music.

Onkyo sends the low-pass signal from the L/R/C/Surrounds based on each individual crossover setting in both stereo and surround modes.

Example:

-L/R set to 80Hz crossover= sub outputs the sound from L/R below 80Hz
-Surrounds set to 100Hz crossover= sub outputs the sound from the surrounds below 100Hz

The LFE setting is just for the discrete .1 channel in 5.1 or 7.1 mixes.
FYI... I would set the LFE channel to the highest setting 120Hz to allow 100% of the signal to come through as the recording engineer has intended. Just IMHO of course.


Neauxla,I am actually currently looking a new receivers in this same price range as well. I have considered:

Yamaha RX-A810, Onkyo TX-NR709, Denon AVR-3312CI and Pioneer VSX-1121

After LOTS of research (including forum threads, professional reviews, user reviews and reading through each receiver's user manual, yes I am hardcore ), I am planning on going with the TX-NR709. Actually they are all good receivers. You just have to decide what features and characteristics are important to you.


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I had to make the same decision on AVRs a couple of weeks ago. I went with the Onkyo 709 because it went on sale and it met all my requirements.
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Thanks for the info on the crossovers.

One thing I am having a hard time getting a good comparison on is the Audyssey MultEQ® XT vs the Yamaha YPAO. Does anyone know how the YPAO stacks up against the various Audyssey offerings?
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Thanks for the info on the crossovers.

One thing I am having a hard time getting a good comparison on is the Audyssey MultEQ® XT vs the Yamaha YPAO. Does anyone know how the YPAO stacks up against the various Audyssey offerings?

Audyssey is more sophisticated than YPAO in this specific comparison. Audyssey will EQ sub while YPAO won't. However, YPAO is tweakable and Audyssey is not (not without an expensive add-on that might not work with 709). Some prefer tweaking--most prefer having sub EQ.
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Tuesday Onecall had an A1010 open box for your target price, its gone now. Anyhow the lady said if you are not comfortable with an open box you can have a new one for $25 more. So I have a new a1010 on the way for $25 more than your target price. You can try calling there and see if they will give you a good price on an
a810 or better yet an a1010. My guess is they will give the same price that I got whether they have an open box or not.
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I'm leaning towards a Denon 1712 because of the Audyssey XT, and you can get an authorized refurb for $270.
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Neauxla,
Did you ever decide on a receiver?

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