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post #661 of 675 Old 03-05-2015, 01:06 PM
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I just spoke with macintosh about the future of their MX121 pre pros..

They made it very clear there will be no upgrades available for 4K video pass through etc..

This is unbelievable that a 6000 and their MX151 as well 12500 both are now obsolete..

I feel really bad for the people who spent this kind of money on what now is a paper weight..

Classe SSP800 did the same and Anthem the Same and Bryston the same and the list goes on..

Why do people continue to buy into Pre pros and companies that don't keep promises ? No idea


Theta Digital and the Casablanca still remains 100% upgradable and they have 4K support and have had it for a year..

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There is always a new format or gadget right around the corner. All pre pros are in danger of this. Is 4k even really 4k yet? Arent they still hashing out how the real 4k is going to be delivered? I have even heard talk that true 4k will require 2 blu ray discs because 1 cannot hold that much data. So the BD is going to be obsolete as well. Now there are the new surround modes with speakers that will point at the ceiling. More gadgets that will required new hardware.

This is why so many manufacturers have stopped playing the pre pro game. R&D something for years and its obsolete the day it hits the sales floor.

I like the Cary Cinema 12 for this reason. Signal gets passed through with no tinkering. Sometimes less is more.

Now that Mcintosh and D&M have parted ways, who knows what the future of pre pros is for the company.......

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Unfortunately, McIntosh is no longer affiliated with D+M, so upgrading the MX121 would be relatively difficult (i.e. more expensive than it's worth) since they don't have easy access to compatible circuit designs. I'd expect the MX151 to be easier, since (presumably) more of it was designed in-house. Still, so far as they're concerned, I'm sure an all new Atmos/DTS:X/Auro-3D capable device would be more cost-effective if designed from scratch. It'll need much more powerful computational hardware to support roomEQ for the additional speaker channels, for example, as well as more XLR connections on the back panel. By the time you're done with that kind of an upgrade, only the front panel would be left, if that.
My response was to the person who posted above me. I'm not looking to upgrade my MX121. Totally agree with your point though.

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I read a review on this unit. It was measured at over 125 s/n ratio. If that is correct, it is a very very good number. The Cary Cinema 12 is 108db.

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I have even heard talk that true 4k will require 2 blu ray discs because 1 cannot hold that much data. So the BD is going to be obsolete as well.
There are 4K blu-rays that hold more data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray...K_Blu-ray_Disc
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Would you still buy McIntosh MX121 , second Hand for 3.250,00 € ?
Or better Krell Foundation No 4K , second Hand ?
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Last night I was using Airplay to stream a football game from my IPad to the MX-121. I received audio only. Is it possible to also get the video on my display?
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Last night I was using Airplay to stream a football game from my IPad to the MX-121. I received audio only. Is it possible to also get the video on my display?
No you need an AppleTV for video.
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Confirmed..... The 121 will not support hdcp 2.2. No upgrades planned. Unit will be replaced by a whole new model to support the new formats.
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Confirmed..... The 121 will not support hdcp 2.2. No upgrades planned. Unit will be replaced by a whole new model to support the new formats.
Yes, and it is now on the website under New Products. The MX122 has arrived!

I realize there is very little chance for an upgrade to the 121, but I'm wondering if they can at least incorporate some of the new services via a firmware upgrade, namely SiriusXM in my case.

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The new MX122. How long will it last before a new HDMI format turns it into a fossil? HDMI is the worst thing thing ever introduced into the audio industry.
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Anyone experiencing unit freeze/hang during internet radio station switching?

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Optical Output. Has anyone tried using the optical output on the MX121? I am trying to connect a pair of headphones. I can get an analog signal using cables connected to the VCR output, but I haven't been able to get a signal from the optical output. On other devices, after connecting an optical cable I can usually see a red light shining through the optical cable. Not so when using the optical output on the MX121.

Is there a setting I need to enable to use this feature? I've been scrolling through the menu system and haven't found it. Nothing is in the manual concerning this.

Thanks for any thoughts!
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Optical Output. Has anyone tried using the optical output on the MX121? I am trying to connect a pair of headphones. I can get an analog signal using cables connected to the VCR output, but I haven't been able to get a signal from the optical output. On other devices, after connecting an optical cable I can usually see a red light shining through the optical cable. Not so when using the optical output on the MX121.

Is there a setting I need to enable to use this feature? I've been scrolling through the menu system and haven't found it. Nothing is in the manual concerning this.

Thanks for any thoughts!
Sorry for the second post. I couldn't figure out how to edit my prior post.

Anyway...the optical output just started working. I went to the back just to clean up some cabling and I noticed the Optical Out port was red. So I plug in a cable and connect that to to headphones and bam...works now. Weird. All set!
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Besides the lack of upgradability, how do folks feel about the MX121? I'm looking at purchasing a MX122 and looking for feedback. Mainly the audio side of things as I have a Lumagen Pro to handle most of the video processing. For me a less expensive choice would be the Marantz 8802a. More expensive, likely the MX160 even with its lack of 18 gbps HDMI chips. I'm coming from a Denon AVP (3D version). I will be purchasing in the next month or so. Thanks for any information. SJ
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Besides the lack of upgradability, how do folks feel about the MX121? I'm looking at purchasing a MX122 and looking for feedback. Mainly the audio side of things as I have a Lumagen Pro to handle most of the video processing. For me a less expensive choice would be the Marantz 8802a. More expensive, likely the MX160 even with its lack of 18 gbps HDMI chips. I'm coming from a Denon AVP (3D version). I will be purchasing in the next month or so. Thanks for any information. SJ
Its current. It supports the latest HDMI/HDCP. It has the latest audio formats.
There arent too many reviews of it floating around just yet.
The Mcintosh is a good choice for those who want good sound quality and music performance over gizmos and gadgets.
Also consider the NAD M17. It has upgrade modules to support the latest HDMI garbage.


Within a couple years Im sure some new HDMI gadget or new sound format will be released. Everything we have today will be obsolete again.

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