Originally Posted by Stereojeff
Let's get away from opinion on the R-972 and get to some facts.
1. It received glowing reviews and purchase recommendations from virtually every test reviewer including: Kal Rubinson in Stereophile
(it was also one of the few and perhaps the only AVR to receive a Stereophile Class rating), Danny Kumin in Sound and Vision
, Mark Fleischmann in Home Theater
, and at least three more.
2. It is the only consumer product with the Trinnov Optimizer. Trinnov is a 3-dimensional room correction system developed for recording studios and the dubbing stage. It is so powerful that it is used at Fox in Culver City to verify that DVD and Blu-ray soundtracks sound exactly like the the original version recorded on the dubbing stage. When the R-972 was introduced the stand-alone Trinnov processor was over $10k.
3. David Rich, a classical music lover and PhD electrical engineering professor, wrote a detailed review that ran in Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity
that compared the EQ results against the professional standards. Dr. Rich is a Trinnov and R-972 fan.
4. There were initial problems with the R-972. The unit clicked when changing modes and the video scaling distorted the perspective. All such issues were resolved.
5. I have used the R-972 in my family home theater since it was introduced. It works 100% of the time in a complex system: HTPC, Blu-ray player, Dish DVR running HDMI to a Monoprice splitter and ultimately to an Electrohome 8111 projector and a local 32" LCD.
6. There is one issue that remains. When a source is changed, the picture appears 5 seconds before the sound can be heard.
7. My wife uses the system daily without complaint.
If you have an opportunity to try the R-972, I heartily recommend it. It still produced the most sublime audio available today for less than multiple thousands of dollars.
You had me nodding in agreement until the first "I have used" statement came up - and then it just became a purchase-defense post. I don't think anyone is trying to rain on your parade here. Or attack you.
The R-972 performed fairly poorly for Home Theater, at least the amplifier sections:http://www.hometheater.com/content/s...-labs-measures
The video processor is good, but it isn't alone in that ability, and Sherwood's customer service is probably the benchmark by which all other failures of end-user support can be judged.
No, it isn't a terrible product, and it would probably be suitable in a lot of environments; better and more available products exist for the same money, and many of them come from dealers and OEMs that will actually stand behind the purchase. That's a big consideration.
Regarding Trinnov - just like Audyssey it has its share of followers; and it has its own technical limitations just as all Room EQ suites do. It will not fix bad speakers or a bad room. From the data I've seen, it should be powerful, but Audessey MultiEQ XT32, ARC, and the higher-tier versions of YPAO should be just as powerful. Some scenarios allow more customization. There is also the
Take a look at the Integra DTR-50.2 (which should correspond with the TX-NR3008); it costs less, produces triple the power (and can come closer to meeting its guaranteed specs), and has an equally competent video processor:http://www.hometheater.com/content/i...02-av-receiver
It also holds HDMI 1.4a and DSX over the Sherwood (among other features).
The SR7005 sits above that; it's Audyssey Installer Ready, and has similarly competent features (including DSX and HDMI 1.4a), on top of more inputs over the Sherwood. It's not a tough choice; yes, the Sherwood is "good" - it's also "old," and for the money there exists "better."