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So I'm trying to decide between these three, I don't want to spend over 300 but that's also pushing my budget.

Accessories4less has the Denon AVR 1612 for 220 and Newegg has the 509 for 220 as well the 609 is over 300.

This will be the setup(future) -

- Polk Monitor 60s
- BIC F12

In the future I plan to add:

- cs2 center
- a set of surrounds


I plan to connect:
- mac mini
- HD cable receiver
- Samsung PN51D6500
- Xbox 360

I'm new to this whole thing so I'm not quite sure what I'll prefer
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It's a tradeoff as the 1612 uses the higher version of Audyssey MultEQ which can EQ the sub (the 2EQ in the 509/609 cannot); however, the 509/609 both include networking. So in the end, choose the model that meets your feature/input requirements.

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It's a tradeoff as the 1612 uses the higher version of Audyssey MultEQ which can EQ the sub (the 2EQ in the 509/609 cannot); however, the 509/609 both include networking. So in the end, choose the model that meets your feature/input requirements.

networking as in what?
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The capability to connect to your wireless router and pass internet radio stations (to include Last.fm, Napster, Pandora, Spotify) to the AVR as well as the capability to control the AVR with an iphone/ipad or android phone.

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The capability to connect to your wireless router and pass internet radio stations (to include Last.fm, Napster, Pandora, Spotify) to the AVR as well as the capability to control the AVR with an iphone/ipad or android phone.

hmm I can pretty much do all of those with the mac mini because it acts as a home theater pc. But other than that, I've never had an AVR before so what can I control with the iphone if I go the 509/609 route? I plan on getting a good universal remote to control all components too.
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If you don't need the networking features in the 509/609, and the 1612 offers the features/inputs you need, then go with it.

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hmmm still trying to decide! I should have made this into a poll, i wonder if it's too late?

Anyhow I got my D6500 woooooo, now I need a receiver but I still can't make up my mind.
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What's a poll going to do that you can't do for yourself? You either want networking in the AVR or you don't. Choose the model that meets your feature and connection needs.

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Is being able to eq the sub important? I'm not an audiophile, I don't even know what eq is...:/
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Yes, very important as it's the hardest part of the setup to EQ and why higher level models offer it. Choose the 509 or 609 for the better features (eg. network capable) and the 1612 for the better audio quality whichever is more important.

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Yes, very important as it's the hardest part of the setup to EQ and why higher level models offer it, although not likely as important if you have an entry level speaker setup (ie. < $600-$800). Choose the 509 or 609 for the better features (eg. network capable) and the 1612 for the better audio quality whichever is more important.

hmm, I dont plan on upgrading the planned setup I listed in the first post....I save 30 bucks if I go with the 509 since accesories4less has the 1612 for 220 + 30 for shipping...
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Then go with the 509 and put the savings towards your additional speaker purchase.

For movie/TV viewing, the center speaker is as important as the front mains so add it as soon as you are able ... the surrounds not as important.

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Denon! I have the 609 now and It is going back! I reordered the 2312ci.
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I curretnly have and use the Denon 2312 and the Onkyo 509. I love my Onkyo 509 and am very impressed with it for many reasons. I have used Audyssey 2eq for many years (in a 605). I now have the MultEQ XT with my Denon. I actually like some of the room gain I get with having my properly placed sub in my bedroom and my 509 and 2eq. The GUI on the 509 is great. I have been using the 509 for over a year with no issues or heat.
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