Originally Posted by Tweaked05
In your list you put the HK AVR 1650. The 1650 does not have pre-outs, also HK changed the way they rate their power on this series to conform more with how other manufacturers are rating. I would recommend the AVR 3600 instead. It has all the Preouts, is 3D capable, and is more powerful. Amazon has it for $544 right now.http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-.../dp/B002IKKFUA
Ok. I just scanned the manual for the 3600. That is another one added to the list. As a Lexicon user for the last 13 years, it would be nice to still have Logic 7 for music.
Originally Posted by ClarkeBar
Love HK kit. Do not like the EZSet/EQ variants though and prefer Audyssey MultEQ XT at a minimum. But the OP may not use Room EQ.
The automated room correction/eq is a whole new ballgame to me. I don't know much about it at all, but I'm pretty excited about hearing the difference it makes in my room. I've read up on the different Audyssey versions, but I have nothing to compare it to since I've had to do all this with a meter on a stand in the past. I suppose EZSet/EQ could be better than doing it manually, but Audyssey XT looks much more robust.
So I now have three competely different models to consider from when I started and they all have preouts so I won't have to change my setup on my fronts and center. I'm glad I hadn't moved that boat anchor of an amp out yet.
The new list:
a used Denon AVR 3808CI, preouts, Audyssey MultiEQ XT
a new Onkyo TX-NR709, preouts, Audyssey MultiEQ XT
or a new H/K AVR-3600, preouts, EZSet/EQ
All these being in budget and only a few dollars from each other, I would be leaning towards the Onkyo if I could hear one somewhere and it sounded good. I went to Best Buy's local Magnolia center and their display audio was flaking out on them. I have heard lots of Denon and H/K stuff over the years and never been disapointed. I know that can vary from model to model, but I feel better about jumping on one of those on blind faith than the Onkyo. I've heard some Onkyo stuff too, but the only thing that's really stood out was an old Onkyo integreated amp and an Onkyo CD player I had. Of course If I got it somewhere with a good return policy it would not be too much of a hassle if I didn't like it. And there's really no way to know what it would sound like in my room with my speakers and amps, without taking there and hooking it up.