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Fox Mulder87's Avatar Fox Mulder87 09:34 AM 07-09-2013
Hii everyone,

I got my receiver (NR616) back today after the mainboard had some kind of malfunction (probably heat related?). Now I'm asking myself the question how I can best reduce the heat problem?

Is there a difference between standby and turning the receiver off? When I'm done watching a movie I usually press the orange button (named receiver) on the top left corner of the remote. After doing so, is the receiver in standby or shut off? What's the difference?

And I have a second question:

Before sending in my TN616 I wrote down all the settings I had for the speakers (Hz, dB, etc.). I never used Audyssey Dynamic EQ.

Now after getting it back I recallibrated the speakers with the microphone and got different numbers (Hz, dB, etc.). Additionally during initial setup, I decided to activate Audyssey Dynamic EQ. HOWEVER I now went back and changed the speaker settings to the old numbers (Hz, dB) that I had before sending in the receiver. Is the Dynamic EQ now out of sync because I changed the settings after calibration or is Dynamic EQ independent of the calibration process?

413X3 04:18 PM 07-10-2013
I had flashing green pixels on small parts of the screen when changing inputs, luckily it started only a few days after buying my 616. Took it back and am happy now with the NR626 so far.
88Driver's Avatar 88Driver 01:44 PM 07-13-2013
I'm sure this may have been covered somewhere in here, but I am still looking through the thread. I have a 616, and everything seemed fine for a while (2 months). Then I started having the audio and video drop out for a few seconds and come back on. I called Onkyo, and they told me it was because of my 35' HDMI cable to the projector. He suggested a signal conditioner or booster. I tried one from Radio Shack, but it wasn't compatable with my Epson (I guess - no picture whatsoever). I'm hesitant to buy anything online without having an idea as to whether or not it will work. Anyone have luck with this?

Side note: toward the end of the conversation, he reminded me to do the latest update which can only be done with a USB. I asked what this update was supposed to fix, and he mentioned video cutout. I did the update, and so far, no video cutout. It was only intermittant when it did it before, so I'm not sure if it's just a matter of time before it does it again or not. My HDMI is run through the ceiling, though I did run it in PVC pipe so I can replace it if necessary, but would rather not; again since I don't know that will solve the problem.

Thanks!!
rworne's Avatar rworne 01:58 PM 07-13-2013
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I'm sure this may have been covered somewhere in here, but I am still looking through the thread. I have a 616, and everything seemed fine for a while (2 months). Then I started having the audio and video drop out for a few seconds and come back on. I called Onkyo, and they told me it was because of my 35' HDMI cable to the projector. He suggested a signal conditioner or booster. I tried one from Radio Shack, but it wasn't compatable with my Epson (I guess - no picture whatsoever). I'm hesitant to buy anything online without having an idea as to whether or not it will work. Anyone have luck with this?

Side note: toward the end of the conversation, he reminded me to do the latest update which can only be done with a USB. I asked what this update was supposed to fix, and he mentioned video cutout. I did the update, and so far, no video cutout. It was only intermittant when it did it before, so I'm not sure if it's just a matter of time before it does it again or not. My HDMI is run through the ceiling, though I did run it in PVC pipe so I can replace it if necessary, but would rather not; again since I don't know that will solve the problem.

Thanks!!

The 616, at least with the original firmware, had horrid HDMI performance. From all I have heard lately, most of the 2012 models have had their issues sorted out by now.

That's typical of Onkyo over the past 4 years or so. New models with buggy firmware. The HT-RC180, 708, and the 616 were three models that shipped with particularly buggy firmware that I have dealt with. The 708 had network issues, and the 616 had HDMI problems. The 626 I purchased recently was pretty much trouble-free.

As the model year progresses, the updates fix issues and by the end of the model year - or even some time into the next model year, the receivers get really solid as nearly all of the issues are fixed.
88Driver's Avatar 88Driver 02:07 PM 07-13-2013
Thanks for the reply!
ClerkDante's Avatar ClerkDante 07:23 PM 08-20-2013
What's the quickest method to switch from 7.2 to Zone 2?

I just picked up an NR616, I setup my theatre as 7.1 and hooked a pair of outdoor speakers to Zone 2. Best I can tell thus far I have to go through to speaker setup menu to switch "on" the Zone 2 speakers.

Is this accurate, or am I missing a shortcut of sorts?

Thanks!
Felchy's Avatar Felchy 10:35 AM 08-23-2013
So what's the concensus on the NR-616?

I've found a good deal on one but there seems to be a fair amount of issues with this receiver. Some places say that the firmware updates have cleared up most of this issues but other places say otherwise.

Should I go for it or is it not worth the risk of running into problems.

Thanks.
Pluvious's Avatar Pluvious 12:39 PM 10-08-2013
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So what's the concensus on the NR-616?

I've found a good deal on one but there seems to be a fair amount of issues with this receiver. Some places say that the firmware updates have cleared up most of this issues but other places say otherwise.

Should I go for it or is it not worth the risk of running into problems.

Thanks.

I bought my 616 5 months ago and had nothing but issues with the HDMI switching. When I change inputs the screen is just black. The work around was to reboot the receiver.

I took it into the shop a week ago and hooked up my old 606. The old one sounds so much better! (richer/fuller and I don't have to turn it up to 40-50 to hear it. (30 is LOUD on the 606) When I get my 616 back.. I might not bother hooking it back up actually.

I was a huge supporter of Onkyo but I've got to face the facts... they just don't make them like they used to. Quality control is SEVERALLY lacking. Yes.. you get a lot of bang for the buck...but at the cost of reliability?? No thanks. I'm done with Onkyo sadly.

(pioneer is supposed to be good.. .right?)
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 02:00 PM 10-08-2013
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(pioneer is supposed to be good.. .right?)
Perhaps you should ask that question in one of the Pioneer topics!?
luk3nj's Avatar luk3nj 11:36 AM 10-11-2013
I have a projector set as the main output and a TV set to the sub out. Is there a way to interchange the inputs simultaneously? I.E have the projector display input 1 and the TV display input 2. How would the audio source be selected in this scenario (assuming something like this is possible)?
Felchy's Avatar Felchy 04:58 PM 10-24-2013
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Originally Posted by Felchy View Post

So what's the concensus on the NR-616?

I've found a good deal on one but there seems to be a fair amount of issues with this receiver. Some places say that the firmware updates have cleared up most of this issues but other places say otherwise.

Should I go for it or is it not worth the risk of running into problems.

Thanks.

Well I ended up getting one as I couldn't pass up the deal and so far I have no issues to report. Everything has been working well.
1080iball's Avatar 1080iball 03:06 PM 10-28-2013
Purchased a TX-NR616 because of the amazing number of features at the price point (due to all the early issues). Performed the firmware update out of the box and so far not a single issue. My only complaint over my old onkyo is the ability to permanently change the display to what audio is being output. This was a nice feature that only comes on 717 and above but it's not a deal breaker.
delpyd21's Avatar delpyd21 07:41 PM 01-07-2014
I am new to this forum and new to a complete avr. I purchased the tx-nr616 and for it up and running. I was just wondering if someone can give me some set up guidance for speaker settings. there is a lot of level calibration and settings that I played with, but can use some more advice.
I have Polk in wall rc85i in front. Polk tl1 center channel. Polk round rc80i in ceiling rear and a bic america down firing 10" sub. I used the audessey set up. then I downloaded a sound meter app and did the level calibration for each speaker and set to 80db. crossovers were set to 80hz front and rear and 100hz center. anything else I should play with? am I using DTS? or just all channel Dolby digital? does the eq set up my listening mode based on audessey?
Tesla1856's Avatar Tesla1856 09:02 PM 01-07-2014
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I am new to this forum and new to a complete avr. I purchased the tx-nr616 and for it up and running. I was just wondering if someone can give me some set up guidance for speaker settings. there is a lot of level calibration and settings that I played with, but can use some more advice.
I have Polk in wall rc85i in front. Polk tl1 center channel. Polk round rc80i in ceiling rear and a bic america down firing 10" sub. I used the audessey set up. then I downloaded a sound meter app and did the level calibration for each speaker and set to 80db. crossovers were set to 80hz front and rear and 100hz center. anything else I should play with? am I using DTS? or just all channel Dolby digital? does the eq set up my listening mode based on audessey?

It's really what-ever sounds good to you.

 

However, I might suggest you at least try once ... a straight Audyssey calibration (with mic on tripod). Then, just bump the Center up a couple of notches. It should do cross-overs, level, distance ... everything. See how that sounds.

 

If that's not good, start tweaking from there. If it thinks the speakers are full-range (but maybe you don't like them handling all that bass) ... ya, set the cross-over to 60-80 and let that get directed to the sub.

 

For each input, you can set how each Sound Mode handles each audio format. I tend to decode DTS as DTS, etc. For two channel formats, I usually matrix those up to something better (or even All-Channel-Stereo).

 

The display should show the Input format detected as well as the currently selected Sound Mode.


delpyd21's Avatar delpyd21 09:08 PM 01-07-2014
thanks for reply. with my speakers, I heard people saying I should set them to small size. is that correct, even with the 8" woofers. I guess in theory set them as small and audessey will set crossover to around80-100hz and let the Sub take care of low hz ?
Tesla1856's Avatar Tesla1856 10:23 PM 01-07-2014
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thanks for reply. with my speakers, I heard people saying I should set them to small size. is that correct, even with the 8" woofers. I guess in theory set them as small and audessey will set crossover to around80-100hz and let the Sub take care of low hz ?

I guess you could, but if they are large and you are setting the cross-over that high around 100, seems like you would be under-utilizing them. If they are in-wall, maybe people think they are weak are something.

 

I wouldn't drift to far away from what Audyssey says. If sets them at Full, and you like to play them loud (and they get over driven) maybe try 60 or 70. The Main Front Left and Right play music (even in movies). If they are capable of Full-Range, seems like you should let them do it (or maybe redirect just a bit of low bass and set to 60 or 70). If it sets them much higher than 90, you might want to check your wires or get new speakers.

 

I used to have older speakers. Some pairs were cheap and Audyssey could tell it. It would default them to 80.

 

With my new Polks, they are set Full, 60 or 70. It's a new experience having all that rich sound coming at you from the front ... pretty cool actually, especially from the Center.

 

You mention Small and Large. I've seen it on older Amps, but my 607 (or my brother's 609) doesn't ask that. I don't see it in 616 manual either. Audyssey takes care of all that now.


delpyd21's Avatar delpyd21 06:29 AM 01-08-2014
OK thanks. and also all of my listening mode presets are set as last valid. do they need adjustments? I only have my cable box currently hooked up with HDMI. no blue ray yet, but all listening mode presets for cab/sat are set to last valid. should I play with these or did audessey set them for me
Tesla1856's Avatar Tesla1856 01:08 PM 01-08-2014
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OK thanks. and also all of my listening mode presets are set as last valid. do they need adjustments? I only have my cable box currently hooked up with HDMI. no blue ray yet, but all listening mode presets for cab/sat are set to last valid. should I play with these or did audessey set them for me

No, you set those yourself.

 

I like to set DTS as DTS, Dolby-True-HD as Dolby-True-HD, etc. If there is a real bitsteamed 5.1 or better track there, I want to hear it un-changed.

 

Last Valid uses whatever you might have stopped on when cycling through the Modes with Movie and/or Music buttons. Be sure to read manual.


SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 01:30 PM 01-08-2014
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No, you set those yourself.

I like to set DTS as DTS, Dolby-True-HD as Dolby-True-HD, etc. If there is a real bitsteamed 5.1 or better track there, I want to hear it un-changed.

Last Valid uses whatever you might have stopped on when cycling through the Modes with Movie and/or Music buttons. Be sure to read manual.
For anyone who wants "to hear the sound unchanged". I suggest they select the 'Direct' audio option (and do the same with the video)!


Cheers
Tesla1856's Avatar Tesla1856 09:17 PM 03-25-2014

On these models (and I suppose similar new models) looks like Onkyo has removed the "Portable" Stereo 1/8" jack from the front. This was an easy way to connect MP3 players to the unit (using analog jack meant for headphones).

 

How do you guys do it now?


primetimeguy's Avatar primetimeguy 09:20 PM 03-25-2014
They make 1/8" to RCA converter cables which I have used before.
Tesla1856's Avatar Tesla1856 09:48 PM 03-25-2014
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They make 1/8" to RCA converter cables which I have used before.

To an Input on the back, right? (which is fine)

 

However, I thought the MP3 player output was amplified where-as the analog Inputs were looking for a Line-Level Input. Wouldn't the MP3 player cause the Amp to go into Input Over-Load? I thought the Portable jack was special and accounted for that.


primetimeguy's Avatar primetimeguy 10:11 AM 03-26-2014
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To an Input on the back, right? (which is fine)

 

However, I thought the MP3 player output was amplified where-as the analog Inputs were looking for a Line-Level Input. Wouldn't the MP3 player cause the Amp to go into Input Over-Load? I thought the Portable jack was special and accounted for that.

Correct, input on the back.  I don't think there is any level difference as these types or cables are used for this purpose all the time. 


swak's Avatar swak 07:47 AM 04-07-2014
I installed the latest firmware on my 616, (came out last October I think) update on Saturday and it made a nice improvement. Seems to have fixed an hdmi port which had some intermittent issues and now it seems like the hd audio from my boxee box is working without the usual audio dropouts (when using source direct).
MrPaulAR's Avatar MrPaulAR 02:30 PM 04-17-2014
I just got this receiver a month or so ago and replace a TX-SR616. Is there a way to force the output resolution to 720p (I have a long HDMI run and sometimes have handshake issues due to that). ALso I notice a humming sound coming from the speakers. The volume is set to 50%.
aukevin's Avatar aukevin 11:00 AM 06-08-2014
Hey, I was hoping you all can help me set up my 616 correctly. The HDMI ports on my TV have seen to have died, so where as before I had an HDMI going from my TV to the HDMI out Main port on the receiver, now I want to run a component cable from my TV into the Component Out port on the receiver. My PVR and PS3 will still be connected to the receiver using HDMI. I can't figure out how to get the video onto my TV though. Is there a setting that specifies to use the Component Out? When I go the Setup and set the video out, I don't see anything to say use the Component Out rather than HDMI. Does it automatically do that? I'm not getting any picture, so I'm wondering if I"m missing a setting somewhere. Thanks.
JChin's Avatar JChin 11:16 AM 06-08-2014
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Hey, I was hoping you all can help me set up my 616 correctly. The HDMI ports on my TV have seen to have died, so where as before I had an HDMI going from my TV to the HDMI out Main port on the receiver, now I want to run a component cable from my TV into the Component Out port on the receiver. My PVR and PS3 will still be connected to the receiver using HDMI. I can't figure out how to get the video onto my TV though. Is there a setting that specifies to use the Component Out? When I go the Setup and set the video out, I don't see anything to say use the Component Out rather than HDMI. Does it automatically do that? I'm not getting any picture, so I'm wondering if I"m missing a setting somewhere. Thanks.

Hi aukevin, no receiver will down convert HDMI to Component video. You'll need to connect Component In to Component Video Out.
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 11:22 AM 06-08-2014
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Hi aukevin, no receiver will down convert HDMI to Component video. You'll need to connect Component In to Component Video Out.
And if an amplifier did offer this facility, the component video output would have to be limited to 'standard definition'...

There are however, little 'black boxes' that can do what you require wink.gif
aukevin's Avatar aukevin 11:23 AM 06-08-2014
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Hi aukevin, no receiver will down convert HDMI to Component video. You'll need to connect Component In to Component Video Out.

Ok thanks, that's no good. Is there some kind of adapter I can connect the components coming out of my TV that will convert it to HDMI so that I can plug that into my receiver's HDMI Out port?
aukevin's Avatar aukevin 12:23 PM 06-08-2014
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Hi aukevin, no receiver will down convert HDMI to Component video. You'll need to connect Component In to Component Video Out.

Well, I was able to connect my DirecTV receiver up through component cables and then the component out worked like you said, thanks. Now the only problem is that I can't connect my PS3 anymore because this receiver only has one component in, that's no good! I'll either try to find one of these black boxes to do my HDMI conversion or just use my old AVR that had lots of component inputs but no HDMI ones. Just can't win today, but at least I got the DirecTV back on the screen. I can't believe my two HDMI ports on my TV just stopped working out of nowhere!
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