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I definitely think the 818 is the replacement for the 809 and while the MSRP did go up $100, to get XT32/SubEQ HT at that price is going to make this Model a huge hit.
I do lament the loss of MCH Inputs and the U-Port, but for the vast majority the juice is well worth the squeeze. Moreover, with more and more SACD Players being able to output DSD over HDMI, the loss of the MCH Inputs is not as big of a loss for many.
The TX-NR717 is the AVR which utterly confounds me. Not only do they take a 700 Series all the way up to the $1000 price point, they amazingly go from MultEQ XT to 2EQ. While only the 705 and 709 offered MultEQ XT, the 706, 707, and 708 all at least offered MultEQ. Now, the only major advantage the 717 has over the 616 is Preamp Outputs.
While the 709 was the Midrange AVR that made the most sense to me, the 717 simply does not make sense to me. If I owned a 709 and Onkyo replaced it with a 717, I would be seething in anger. This is the first time I think I could say this about the replacement model to this extent. The TX-NR1007 to 1008 was a downgrade, but this seems so much worse.
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