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Is there any way to confirm what audio is playing? Like if it is DTS etc. Seems like other receivers will have an indicator but doesn't look like that's the case with this receiver

Press the DISPLAY button on the remote. It cycles through various info screens, including the audio codec being played.
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I think you're right, on my 673 the xbass is grayed out with speakers set to small. Question.....anyway to watch tv connected via hdmi while listening to radio or pandora?

Input >>Pandora>> Up arrow>>Video Out>> Choose video source. This is one of my favorite options, sports on the TV, Pandora music, everybody's happy!
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Dang....I did that before I ask the question but I set everything to HDMI 1......tv is on HDMI 2..... My bad
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OK great, thanks a lot. Can't wait for it.
just wanted to clarify i dont think 7ch actually pulls output from the sub, its actually all the other speakers being on makes the sub sound 3db less.
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2 channel stereo will use the subwoofer as per the crossover frequency you have set. I have a 773, but I think it works the same way. You don't need to use x-bass for 2 channel stereo if you have your fronts set to "small"--it will use the sub as with other modes.

No, X-bass cannot be used with all speakers set to small. I think you need at least some speakers set to large.

If I have this wrong, please correct me.

this is correct and what i meant but i guess i didnt clarify that part..thx!

2ch stereo options: Front Large, Front large + sub with x bass on, Front small + sub xbass does not apply. Fronts can not be set to small with no sub.

xbass just activates the sub where it applies...when the speakers are set small and the sub is on, xbass does nothing turned on or off except for 2 ch stereo. turned off will deactivate sub and set fronts to large.
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At the Yamaha website, go to the SUPPORT pages, select your receiver from the drop-down menu, and you will be presented with the appropriate links.



Thanks for the link, I had that link and somehow did not drop down to see the firmware, oh well.

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just wanted to clarify i dont think 7ch actually pulls output from the sub, its actually all the other speakers being on makes the sub sound 3db less.
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OK, I'm a little confused now.
Thanks to basshead81, ThinkRationally, Tim Akin for your input.

I can't find mention of "X-Bass" in the pdf of the manual, so I'm not sure what its purpose is, but let me see if I understand so far...

I can set my fronts to small, select 2ch stereo, and still utilize the subwoofer "as per the crossover frequency" as long as my sub is turned on, but the specific X-Bass feature won't apply. So, listening to music, I'll have output from fronts and sub, meaning I can get a clean sound without DSP effects, but with the added punch of the sub. I like to direct the bass away from the speakers so they aren't overworked. I'm not an audiophile or expert, but have read it's best to do this so the speakers can concentrate on other ranges that require less movement.

But if I were to change the fronts to "large", I could employ the X-Bass feature in 2ch stereo mode. I've read in multiple posts that it's ideal to keep the fronts set to small, though, and my fronts are indeed physically small--they're large bookshelf type.

Or I could use the 7ch stereo mode which allows for using X-Bass. I'm assuming that 7ch stereo mode splits the stereo channel among however many speakers you have connected? IE, it's not a surround mode, but stereo split among multiple channels. And can 7ch stereo mode be used if you have 5 speakers only, plus sub (5.1)?
As long as 2ch stereo can be used with the sub, I expect that will be the mode I'll prefer for music.

Have I got that right?

And perhaps someone can explain what X-Bass is.
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OK, I'm a little confused now.
Thanks to basshead81, ThinkRationally, Tim Akin for your input.

I can't find mention of "X-Bass" in the pdf of the manual, so I'm not sure what its purpose is, but let me see if I understand so far...

I can set my fronts to small, select 2ch stereo, and still utilize the subwoofer "as per the crossover frequency" as long as my sub is turned on, but the specific X-Bass feature won't apply. So, listening to music, I'll have output from fronts and sub, meaning I can get a clean sound without DSP effects, but with the added punch of the sub. I like to direct the bass away from the speakers so they aren't overworked. I'm not an audiophile or expert, but have read it's best to do this so the speakers can concentrate on other ranges that require less movement.

But if I were to change the fronts to "large", I could employ the X-Bass feature in 2ch stereo mode. I've read in multiple posts that it's ideal to keep the fronts set to small, though, and my fronts are indeed physically small--they're large bookshelf type.

Or I could use the 7ch stereo mode which allows for using X-Bass. I'm assuming that 7ch stereo mode splits the stereo channel among however many speakers you have connected? IE, it's not a surround mode, but stereo split among multiple channels. And can 7ch stereo mode be used if you have 5 speakers only, plus sub (5.1)?
As long as 2ch stereo can be used with the sub, I expect that will be the mode I'll prefer for music.

Have I got that right?

And perhaps someone can explain what X-Bass is.

all xbass does is enable the sub when the front speakers are set to large in 2ch stereo....hince why they yamaha calls it xbass.
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OK, I'm a little confused now.
Thanks to basshead81, ThinkRationally, Tim Akin for your input.

I can't find mention of "X-Bass" in the pdf of the manual, so I'm not sure what its purpose is, but let me see if I understand so far...

And perhaps someone can explain what X-Bass is.

X-Bass is actually 'Extra Bass' page 92.
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For normal 2 channel audio:
Large = no sub
Small = all source below your crossover setting goes to sub. Everything above goes to speakers
Large (x-bass enabled) = speakers get full freq range PLUS all freq below the selected crossover goes to sub. Basically your speakers are playing full range and being augmented by the sub.
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I also have the 673 on order. I just got a set of the 5.1 Andrew Jones pioneer speakers and they are good for Home theater sound, but I prefer my old KLH 5 speakers for stereo music. Intend to listen to Pandora mainly for stereo source. I am thinking of presence for the KLH's if that will work. Can the 673 do this > and what is the connection setup and what buttons to push? Thanks.
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I also have the 673 on order. I just got a set of the 5.1 Andrew Jones pioneer speakers and they are good for Home theater sound, but I prefer my old KLH 5 speakers for stereo music. Intend to listen to Pandora mainly for stereo source. I am thinking of presence for the KLH's if that will work. Can the 673 do this > and what is the connection setup and what buttons to push? Thanks.
You can use any speakers you like for presence speakers. The setup is explained in the manual which you can download any time at Yamaha.com.

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For normal 2 channel audio:
Large = no sub
Small = all source below your crossover setting goes to sub. Everything above goes to speakers
Large (x-bass enabled) = speakers get full freq range PLUS all freq below the selected crossover goes to sub. Basically your speakers are playing full range and being augmented by the sub.

Thank you for that concise explanation. Now I've got it!
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X-Bass is actually 'Extra Bass' page 92.

Ha, seems so obvious now. Found it, thanks.
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In setting up my new RW-12D (paired with B&W 684's) I actually preferred the sound of having double bass enabled. Seemed to open things up. Heresy for most, but fine for me.
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Erik, you can also tweak the 7ch. Like in your car, move more sound to the fronts and less to the rear....or the other way around if you prefer.
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Erik, you can also tweak the 7ch. Like in your car, move more sound to the fronts and less to the rear....or the other way around if you prefer.
Even better. You can change the volume of each speaker individually.

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Even better. You can change the volume of each speaker individually.
That is, I thought it was just main and rear.
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That is, I thought it was just main and rear.
Depends on whether you go to the Sound Program menu or Setup > Speaker menu.

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what i can not understand is why so many people have bought into the aydyssey hype? Yea ok so it auto eq's your speakers, but its not perfect for every room and you dont have any adjustability outside of it. I love that yamaha has the ability to fully tweak all 7 speakers from the gain level to the 7band peq adjustable from 31-16khz. yea it does not eq subs but a mini dsp takes care of that for 125.00 and then one has the most fully adjustable, rock solid reliable setup..Yamaha FTW!


You will have to excuse me I needed to vent after some crap I have been reading in other threads lol.

Oh and I found some info on dynamic output. Since the 673/773 is able to drive 4ohm speakers for the fronts and 8ohm the rest of the speakers, this could put the avr into a 2ohm load and thats why Yamaha has dynamic output numbers listed in the manual for 8/6/4/2 ohm loads.
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what i can not understand is why so many people have bought into the aydyssey hype? Yea ok so it auto eq's your speakers, but its not perfect for every room and you dont have any adjustability outside of it. I love that yamaha has the ability to fully tweak all 7 speakers from the gain level to the 7band peq adjustable from 31-16khz. yea it does not eq subs but a mini dsp takes care of that for 125.00 and then one has the most fully adjustable, rock solid reliable setup..Yamaha FTW!


You will have to excuse me I needed to vent after some crap I have been reading in other threads lol.

Oh and I found some info onndynamic output. Since the 673/773 is able to drive 4ohm speakers for the fronts and 8ohm the rest of the speakers, this could put the avr into a 2ohm load and thats why Yamaha has dynamic output numbers listed in the manual for 8/6/4/2 ohm loads.
AVS is very heavily Audyssey biased. And Denon as well. Frustrates me too. Thats why when those guys were trying to talk you into returning your 773 I had to comment a couple of times.

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AVS is very heavily Audyssey biased. And Denon as well. Frustrates me too. Thats why when those guys were trying to talk you into returning your 773 I had to comment a couple of times.

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The Audyssey crowd almost got me as well until I did some more research and discovered that you want the XT32 version if you're going to use it. All of those receivers were well out of my price range. I am glad that I returned the 473 and got the 673 on sale at amazon a while back. The added flexibility the 673 gives me was well worth the extra $. Not sure what my next receiver will be but that's years away.
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I had had a Denon 4311CI for two years and used audyssey XT32 (corrected my room up to 32positions). Sold it recently and got myself a Yamaha A3020. So I do have experience with both YPAO and audyssey, and personally, it is very hard for me to tell the difference between the two. YPAO has a lot more tweaking flexibility. If you don't have audyssey, you are not missing much. YPAO is amazing in newer models.
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I almost added and should have that if I did have the money for a receiver with XT32 I would have gotten an A3020 rather than the 673 I currently own. Though for right now, the 673 more than meets my AVR needs.
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Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me if the yamaha receiver have an indicator on the panel saying whether or not it is using HD audio (dolby truehd/dts hd). I have a rx-373 and believe it doesn't have it, but I'm not sure. It's making me have difficulty in determining whether or not I'm getting HD audio.
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Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me if the yamaha receiver have an indicator on the panel saying whether or not it is using HD audio (dolby truehd/dts hd). I have a rx-373 and believe it doesn't have it, but I'm not sure. It's making me have difficulty in determining whether or not I'm getting HD audio.
Hit the Info button on the remote until it displays the audio decoder.
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Thanks for the info.

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