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post #10891 of 10912 Old 12-14-2014, 06:20 PM
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Hey, everybody I need some help with my x4000. I purchased my x4000 in july 2013. Yesterday all of a sudden my x4000 shut off and started blinking red(1/2 second intervals). Now, I read through the forum and saw the suggestion of making sure all the speaker wire is connected properly. I use banana plugs so that isn't an issue. The x400 works for about ten minutes then shuts off. I unplugged all the speaker terminals from the back of the receiver and it still shuts off after a period of time, so I know speaker connection isn't a problem. I reseted the microprocessor and problem still occurs. Are their any other suggestions or would my best bet be to call denon. I bought the receiver in july 2013 so hopefully it is still under warranty

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Nice got it straight from denon, hopefully there customer service is easy to deal with.

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Guys,

I got a denon 1913 with energy take classic. I just bought Klipsch b10 to use as second zone. The speakers are still in the living room and I want to use them for playing music as the take classic isn't up to par. Now i AirPlay my music and works fine. The issue is, the bass doesn't work. Anyway to fix this? If not, is there anyway I can get bass out of the klipsch? Also, I can't change the sound mode on zone 2. You know how u hold the music button and you get option for prologic and stuff..
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There is no sound mode on Zone 2, rather the speakers simply get full range audio (ie. no subwoofer). If you are using the B10's for music only, you'll want to set them as "Front B" in AMP ASSIGN rather than "Zone 2". You can then set Front Speakers to "B" and still use the sub when listening to music.

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okay, so today i went out and bought two Klipsch RC600 http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/produ...d784207095en02

Specs are on the link..

Now, i use those 2 as front, and i left my centre, and rear surrounds from my take classics. I gotta be honest, the sound is good but it's not like what i heard at the store. It feels like my take classic setup was the same. I ran the auddesy setup and it did its thing, but the audio isn't crazy different.. is something wrong in the setup? i have to almost go up to 70volume level to hear loud. When i play music, even at 70 it isn't pounding heavy in the house.. if i have full house of people, i don't think it would be loud enough..

the auddesy setup the speakers are follow:
Front:full range/-3.5db
centre: yes 100hz/-2.5db
Surround: small 80z/-1.5db
sub: -7.5db

can i do something to change things up??
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Nothing abnormal about the volume level nor your final settings, although you'll want to reset the FL/FR speakers to SMALL/80Hz in Manual Setup as you have a dedicated sub to handle the lower frequencies. Doing so won't impact Audyssey so don't have to run Audyssey again just for that; however, you'll likely want to run Audyssey at least 2-3 more times using slightly different mic positions each time all within 1-2' of the 1st mic position as each Audyssey run will likely provide a slightly different final result.

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Also, try bumping up the sub trim (in the AVR) a few db. Most folks prefer the sub a bit hotter than Audyssey does.

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Nothing abnormal about the volume level nor your final settings, although you'll want to reset the FL/FR speakers to SMALL/80Hz in Manual Setup as you have a dedicated sub to handle the lower frequencies. Doing so won't impact Audyssey so don't have to run Audyssey again just for that; however, you'll likely want to run Audyssey at least 2-3 more times using slightly different mic positions each time all within 1-2' of the 1st mic position as each Audyssey run will likely provide a slightly different final result.
wow, so i'm guessing it's the avr that can't provide enough power?

i mean, it is good, but i wanted it even louder. I wanted to hear crisp clean water drop..

what if i put the front and surrounds DB level to +2
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Have you maxed out the master volume and it's still not loud enough for you??

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Have you maxed out the master volume and it's still not loud enough for you??
I didn't max it. Not sure what the max is on the receiver. But I'm scared to max it incase I blow the speakers or damage the subs. I feel safer hearing loud audio around 74 with the db higher.
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wow, so i'm guessing it's the avr that can't provide enough power?

i mean, it is good, but i wanted it even louder. I wanted to hear crisp clean water drop..

what if i put the front and surrounds DB level to +2
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I didn't max it. Not sure what the max is on the receiver. But I'm scared to max it incase I blow the speakers or damage the subs. I feel safer hearing loud audio around 74 with the db higher.
Why would you guess that if you haven't even raised it to a safe max volume (ie. 80)?

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Yeah, the number on the MV doesn't matter a whit....as long as it can get "too loud" for you, you're good to go.

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Hey everyone (maybe in particular jdsmoothie ) I own the Denon 2112ci model that I got for $219. At a local best buy there is an open box 2113CI for $238. It doesn't have the remote so I would have to purchase that for $30. So, it would actually be $268. The only differences I can really tell between the two is the hijacking of Airplay that exists on the 2112 CI. Other than that, is there any reason why I should pay the differential to get the 2113? Let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks so much!
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Not really unless there is some feature on the 2113CI you want (eg. 4k) and you could get the full value you paid for the 2112CI.

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okay, so i returned the floor speaker as the wife didn't like those big things in the living room. I ended up getting the RB 61 II and RC 52 II for the centre.

Now, the RB 61II is 100W RMS and the RC52II is 125W RMS. both 8 ohms. My avr1913 pushes 90RMS each channel and not sure about the ohms How will i know that i am pushing it too much?? like what which point when i turn up the volume should i stop?

I am also temporarily running the take classic rears and the sub.

Here is the audessey setup:

The distance seems pretty accurate

Front: Small
Center: Small
Subwoofer: Yes
Surround: Small

Levels
Front L: -4.0db
Front R: -5.5db
Center: -8.5db
Subwoofer: -12db (i had it set to 60% during setup)

Crossovers:
Front: 80hz
Center: 60hz
Surround: 90hz

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Lower the sub to about 25% and run Audyssey again. The goal is to not have the sub set to -12db. After Audyssey you can then boost the level about 3-5db to suit your preference if you prefer a little more bass. Even at loud volume levels, the speakers on average will only be drawing about 5W/CH. You'll likely reach a volume that is too loud for your wife much sooner than you reach the max safe volume level on the AVR (ie. 80).

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Lower the sub to about 25% and run Audyssey again. The goal is to not have the sub set to -12db. After Audyssey you can then boost the level about 3-5db to suit your preference if you prefer a little more bass. Even at loud volume levels, the speakers on average will only be drawing about 5W/CH. You'll likely reach a volume that is too loud for your wife much sooner than you reach the max safe volume level on the AVR (ie. 80).

Okay thanks. Could I increase the db on the fronts and centre by 2-3? Also is 60hz okay for centre channel?
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After running Audyssey, you can change volume (up/down) of any speakers/sub you want to as well as raising crossover from 60Hz to 80Hz (only if doing so you notice a favorable difference). Making these changes doesn't impact the Audyssey EQ.

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After running Audyssey, you can change volume (up/down) of any speakers/sub you want to as well as raising crossover from 60Hz to 80Hz (only if doing so you notice a favorable difference). Making these changes doesn't impact the Audyssey EQ.
thank you so much for all your help.

I played Captain america winter soldier last night. I watched about half hour and holyyyyyyy.. i noticed so much more audio and sound which i didn't notice before. It's much crisp now. I must admit that i need a way better sub as the current energy sub woofer isn't doing it.

One final question, once i complete the audyssey ssetup, it asks me if i want to enable dynamic eq.. i'm not sure what that is and i select "no". should i select yes? what does that do. and can i turn it on/off at a later time if i want to?
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Yes, generally you want to set Dynamic EQ (boosts sub/surrounds at lower volume levels) to YES and Dynamic Volume (levels soft and loud audio) to NO (except maybe for TV/late night viewing); however, both settings can be accessed and changed in the GUI.

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