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My Arcam AVP700 is failing. It's paired with a Arcam P1000 7.1 amp. The problem is with any digital source. Analog audio from the Oppo BDP-83 SE is fine.

I guess my question is, what would be a good replacement. I'm not sure I want to spend another $2500 on Arcam.

I know the Marantz is a good choice, but what else is there for the sub $1500 range. Emotiva? Outlaw? I dont need multiroom or 3D.

Thoughts?
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Consider an AVR. many people use AVR's with an amp. I use a Denon 4311ci and I can't tell in difference in sq from the pre/pros I've used.
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My Arcam AVP700 is failing. It's paired with a Arcam P1000 7.1 amp. The problem is with any digital source. Analog audio from the Oppo BDP-83 SE is fine.

I guess my question is, what would be a good replacement. I'm not sure I want to spend another $2500 on Arcam.

I know the Marantz is a good choice, but what else is there for the sub $1500 range. Emotiva? Outlaw? I dont need multiroom or 3D.

Thoughts?

Look at the Anthem MRX receivers, they come with the full version of Anthem Room Correction(ARC). Check out the Anthem MRX thread.
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I hear nothing but great things about Emotiva.
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How long did the Arcam stuff last for you?
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Emotiva; if you choice take a good look at the components and their approach in general.

Make you own decision about them. I personally am not a fan... yes I have heard them.

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Thanks for the input. I didn't think of the AVR idea. I like the Anthem, but with no SACD that's not going to work. There are many other choices.

As far as Arcam, I built the theater in '06. All 3 of the Arcam pieces have had to go in for warranty (2 years) repair for internal hardware replacement. The CD player was gone for a month while a part was needed from the UK. We only use this system part time as we split our time. Our other home has a B&K Ref 50. That had a 5 year warranty and the only thing that has needed is software updates.

Emotiva has a 5 year warranty. I'm thinking I'll take my chances with their internal hardware at a fraction of the price.
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Thanks for the input. I didn't think of the AVR idea. I like the Anthem, but with no SACD that's not going to work. There are many other choices.

What do you mean? You can get SACD via the analog route or via HDMI (converted to PCM).

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Emotiva has a 5 year warranty. I'm thinking I'll take my chances with their internal hardware at a fraction of the price.

No DSD afaik and a lame roomEQ.

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My Arcam AVP700 is failing. It's paired with a Arcam P1000 7.1 amp. The problem is with any digital source. Analog audio from the Oppo BDP-83 SE is fine.

I guess my question is, what would be a good replacement. I'm not sure I want to spend another $2500 on Arcam.

I know the Marantz is a good choice, but what else is there for the sub $1500 range. Emotiva? Outlaw? I dont need multiroom or 3D.

Thoughts?

What about a used AV9?
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What do you mean? You can get SACD via the analog route or via HDMI (converted to PCM).

No DSD afaik and a lame roomEQ.

There is no 7.1 analog input on the Anthem.
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What about a used AV9?

Not after the problems I've had with Arcam. I would not go used.
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demo carefully or you may be disappointed

I had an Arcam AVR350 - and the only 2 receivers that I've tried since that were on-par/came close to were the Pioneer 59TXi (which I still have), Arcam AVR500 (sounded amazing but my unit was buggy)

I've tried current gen receivers (Denon 4311, Pioneer SC-05, Yamaha 3067) - and in general was disappointed

so demo demo demo good luck
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Eight out of nine of my Arcam components were bought used and I've not have any problems. My only new Arcam DVDP bought 10 years ago still works. My latest 'used' AVR has nearly 5 year warranty left at less than half price.

Arcam FMJ has 5 year warranty which is transferable. For processor/AVR replacement I'd not recommend picking anything old that doesn't process audio via HDMI or have EQ any more. If you're not willing to spend more than 1.5 grand [for a processor] your choice is very limited.

Audiosceptics accept audio trials using 25 people. A recent Oxford study with over 353,000 patient records from 639 separate clinical trials shows for every 1,000 people taking diclofenac or ibuprofen there would be 3 additional heart attacks, 4 more cases of heart failure and 1 death every year.

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There is no 7.1 analog input on the Anthem.

Not a big deal. With rare exception, you should not need multichannel analog input any longer. HDMI has filled that niche and generally improved upon it.

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I know the Marantz is a good choice, but what else is there for the sub $1500 range. Emotiva? Outlaw? I dont need multiroom or 3D.

Thoughts?

The Emotiva UMC-1 seems like a crapshoot. Some people have no problems with it - others curse it. Outlaw is selling Marantz since their prepro is still in development. They used to sell a Marantz AVR 5005 with the option to have the amp section shut off thereby making it a prepro - they reverse that 'feature' free of charge. They don't seem to have that option for the 6006 they now sell.

The only prepro that come in under $1500 that hasn't been mentioned is the Integra DHC 40.2. I have the 40.1 and its worked flawlessly for the past 2 years. It does not have direct analog input channels. I find I don't need them. Accessories4Less sells the Onkyo PR-SC5508 just over your budget. It gets very good reviews.

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There is no 7.1 analog input on the Anthem.

There are no 7.1 SACDs.

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Not a big deal. With rare exception, you should not need multichannel analog input any longer. HDMI has filled that niche and generally improved upon it.

AJ

I guess I missed that detail from being away from the forums for a few years.
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There are no 7.1 SACDs.

Sure, I use all 8 cables for BR audio. The Oppo SE is specially designed for that. The Arcam doesn't handle HDMI audio.
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